Suggestion: Monster Meat Corruption.

[FateWeaver]

Monster meat has a corrupting effect on the pigs and boars by turning them into werepigs/boars, but seeing as pigs's closeness to humans is used in medical studies in real life, and that the pigs in Don't Starve are even more human-like than their real life counterparts, wouldn't it make sense if also you could get corrupted by devouring monster meat? Maybe if you eat a large amount of monster meat you have a random chance to get monster meat corruption? This could either work just like with the pigs and you would turn into a werebeast version of yourself, or if that sounds to generic maybe the monster meat could corrupt you into a different form of monster, purple skinned with small black spiky legs sticking out of the skin and spikes like the meat itself.

I imagine you would be treated the same way as webber gets treated by the pigs seeing as you are kinda a monster at this stage, and if you don't find a way to cure yourself there would have to be consequences so that staying like this is not a desirable outcome after the novelty and fun wears off, also it would have to be balanced so it is not overpowered. Maybe as a monster you would be forced to only eat meat as vegetables, berries and fruits just make you ill and hurt you, forcing you into confrontations with the various animals in order for you to survive. Not killing something over time could also drain away at your sanity. And Maybe crafting recipes could be locked off because you are simply too unintelligent to make much sense of them in your monstrous form.

The cure could either be in the form of an item in the world you would have to find or a recipe that would require a rare ingredient.

 

This is something I have thought about a long while, but I kept forgetting about it and never got around to suggesting it before now for some reason, and development seems to be happening here in the Shipwrecked forums these days so I post it here even though it would be a feature for Don't Starve in general. If you like the idea and want to help me add to it feel free.

[SapphireBullets]

Hmm... I think just hurting you a bit could be fine, but maybe it could work as a mechanic for a new character?

Like, they can eat monster food without penalty but it accumulates towards a random set point (5-15 monster foods) before they turn monstrous, gaining physical power at the expense of continuously draining sanity or something. Kind of like Woodie's wood mechanic.

[FateWeaver]

Hmm... I think just hurting you a bit could be fine, but maybe it could work as a mechanic for a new character?

Like, they can eat monster food without penalty but it accumulates towards a random set point (5-15 monster foods) before they turn monstrous, gaining physical power at the expense of continuously draining sanity or something. Kind of like Woodie's wood mechanic.

Well I kinda wanted it to be a thing that could happen to anyone so that it could turn into a cautionary tale people could tell each other, "Don't eat Monster Meat or bad things will happen to you... And I am not talking food poisoning..."

Reason I went with sanity drain over health loss when you don't kill something is because I wanted to give the impression that the hunger drives you insane, well, more insane than if you were just a normal hungry human.

[Mildcream]

Nah, the current penalty is fine IMO. people already avoid eating monster meat. I very rarely pick it up, this wouldn't help; rather it'd have the opposite effect.

[Lacost]

Monster meat has a corrupting effect on the pigs and boars by turning them into werepigs/boars, but seeing as pigs's closeness to humans is used in medical studies in real life, and that the pigs in Don't Starve are even more human-like than their real life counterparts, wouldn't it make sense if also you could get corrupted by devouring monster meat?

 

Just some lore check on your theory:

 

Pigs are already "corrupted" since they have the werepig blood inside of them by default. However this blood is only activated in the presence of the full moon which seems to have a very strong evil aura (seen on the transformation of flowers).

 

By feeding pigs monster meat this seems to artifically inject this evil aura into the pigs and activating their werepig form.

 

Now I don't think that monster meat has a corrupting effect itself but rather just represents something evil.

[FateWeaver]

Just some lore check on your theory:

 

Pigs are already "corrupted" since they have the werepig blood inside of them by default. However this blood is only activated in the presence of the full moon which seems to have a very strong evil aura (seen on the transformation of flowers).

 

By feeding pigs monster meat this seems to artifically inject this evil aura into the pigs and activating their werepig form.

 

Now I don't think that monster meat has a corrupting effect itself but rather just represents something evil.

Never heard this bit of lore before, where is this written?

 

[Lacost]

Never heard this bit of lore before, where is this written?

 

 

As most of the lore in Don't Starve it is written nowhere but you can make up a lore by logical thinking. You can believe what I am interpreting or not. That's simply how Don't Starve tells it's stories.

[DreamApart]

I think it make sense if monster meat make a werewolf transform into his wolf shape, but not normal human.

 

A pigman turns into a werepig because the pigman itself actually is a werepig.

The monster meat just trigger the transformation, without which, they also transform on full moon.

 

While, there is already a way to trigger a werebearver's transformation, which is by cutting trees.

[FateWeaver]

As most of the lore in Don't Starve it is written nowhere but you can make up a lore by logical thinking. You can believe what I am interpreting or not. That's simply how Don't Starve tells it's stories.

Well in that case I choose to interpret and believe that it is in fact the monster meat that is responsible for the transformation, and that the pigs have eaten it before and are therefore just increasing their dosage when they eat even more monster meat which then bumps them into their transformation. And them turning at moonlight is in that interpretation also because of monster meat which makes their bodies react with the lunar light. Monster meat turning things into monsters I feel could be very Don't Starveian as you literally become what you eat.

[DreamApart]

Well in that case I choose to interpret and believe that it is in fact the monster meat that is responsible for the transformation, and that the pigs have eaten it before and are therefore just increasing their dosage when they eat even more monster meat which then bumps them into their transformation. And them turning at moonlight is in that interpretation also because of monster meat which reacts with the lunar light.

 

They turns in moonlight even if they haven't eaten any monster meat.

[FateWeaver]

They turns in moonlight even if they haven't eaten any monster meat.

I know and I just said that in my interpretation the monster meat they had consumed before you arrived is responsible for the transformation, who knows how many times they have eaten that stuff before you arrived. Their stomachs are literally oozing with monster meat!

 

[Fledge]

It's a nice idea and I like your logic, but it would have to not apply to Webber, since he lives off the stuff. Also maybe it would force Woodie into his Werebeaver form, rather than the meat monster, or equally Woodie is immune to this effect, because two kinds of transformation for Woodie would be a bit much.

 

I think Mildcream is right though and people would need more of an incentive to do this; if the effect was very similar to Woodie's Werebeaver then that would give other characters a way to gain his buffs; but equally, that detracts from the uniqueness of Woodie's curse, so I don't see it happening.

 

I have long felt that crockpot recipes should take more note of the ingredients used - for instance Wigfrid should be able to eat stuffed eggplant if it was made with meat - so maybe they could implement this curse through meatballs etc. since that's pretty much the only way anybody eats monster meat! That way it would be a nice [horrible...] surprise - but they'd have to set the corruption limit quite high, as monster meat is just about the only high value meat readily available in SW. Or maybe it only works with eating monster meat recipes on a full moon. If they did it this way, the curse wouldn't have to be very beneficial (unlike Woodie).

[FateWeaver]

It's a nice idea and I like your logic, but it would have to not apply to Webber, since he lives off the stuff. Also maybe it would force Woodie into his Werebeaver form, rather than the meat monster, or equally Woodie is immune to this effect, because two kinds of transformation for Woodie would be a bit much.

 

I think Mildcream is right though and people would need more of an incentive to do this; if the effect was very similar to Woodie's Werebeaver then that would give other characters a way to gain his buffs; but equally, that detracts from the uniqueness of Woodie's curse, so I don't see it happening.

 

I have long felt that crockpot recipes should take more note of the ingredients used - for instance Wigfrid should be able to eat stuffed eggplant if it was made with meat - so maybe they could implement this curse through meatballs etc. since that's pretty much the only way anybody eats monster meat! That way it would be a nice [horrible...] surprise - but they'd have to set the corruption limit quite high, as monster meat is just about the only high value meat readily available in SW. Or maybe it only works with eating monster meat recipes on a full moon. If they did it this way, the curse wouldn't have to be very beneficial (unlike Woodie).

Yeah, I agree on Webber, him already being a monster, Woodie on the other hand I am not sure of, it could be too much to have two possible transformations and possibly not, I am just not sure.

 

Well there would have to be incentives both for and against getting corrupted so that there is a tradeoff, things you are not able to do and so forth.

 

He he, like the idea of getting a nasty meatball surprise one day.

[Tzimiscelord]

Well in that case I choose to interpret and believe that it is in fact the monster meat that is responsible for the transformation, and that the pigs have eaten it before and are therefore just increasing their dosage when they eat even more monster meat which then bumps them into their transformation. And them turning at moonlight is in that interpretation also because of monster meat which makes their bodies react with the lunar light. Monster meat turning things into monsters I feel could be very Don't Starveian as you literally become what you eat.

 

 

Not possible, i guess some pigs have already ate monster meat before you met them, but there are pigs that you know for sure they never ate monster meat (because their location makes it impossible)

 

So even if some pigs have already ate monster meat, some pigs havent for sure..... and ALL OF THEM turn to werewolf

 

Lacost interpretations makes sense, your interpretations dont

 

Pigs are werepigs, its in his nature, its intrinsic to them, i dont know why, but i know is intrinsic, we can debate about why, but in the very moment you see a pig in a location that makes monter meat unavaiable, and turns, your interpretations are refuted

[Codsworth]

The transformation mechanic is arleady something in woodie, giving it to every character would make no sense since woodie would no longer have an totally unique mechanic as every other one have (except wilson, cause he needs no power to be awesome).

 

although it would be interesting to make it something to have more penalty, like i hardly ever care about de sanity and health loss of the Cooked monster meat, and monster jerky almost removes it's penalties, so something cumulative that could case side efects like poisoning (may be the already implemented poisoning or a new one) or temporary insanity (like making you insane for a few seconds no matter how high was your sanity, os staying insane until kill a shadow creature or something)

 

[FateWeaver]

Not possible, i guess some pigs have already ate monster meat before you met them, but there are pigs that you know for sure they never ate monster meat (because their location makes it impossible)

 

So even if some pigs have already ate monster meat, some pigs havent for sure..... and ALL OF THEM turn to werewolf

 

Lacost interpretations makes sense, your interpretations dont

 

Pigs are werepigs, its in his nature, its intrinsic to them, i dont know why, but i know is intrinsic, we can debate about why, but in the very moment you see a pig in a location that makes monter meat unavaiable, and turns, your interpretations are refuted

You are taking my joking interpretation way too seriously, that was merely my amused response to Lacost's vague reply. And why would their location make it impossible for them to have eaten monster meat? If you are refering to a lack of monsters around them then you could also reasonably assume that there could have been monsters there before, and they were simply wiped out and eaten as that is the pigs natural behaviour. Hell if I pull that logic even further you could say that the pigs ancestors ate the monster meat and that is responsible for their inherited corruption if you really want to pull it that far. And at any rate the monster meat does bring out the werepig in them, regardless of them having it intrinsically, so it has a corrupting effect, the whole thread was about it being neat if it would have some effect besides bad health and insanity on the player character.

 

[FateWeaver]

The transformation mechanic is arleady something in woodie, giving it to every character would make no sense since woodie would no longer have an totally unique mechanic as every other one have (except wilson, cause he needs no power to be awesome).

 

although it would be interesting to make it something to have more penalty, like i hardly ever care about de sanity and health loss of the Cooked monster meat, and monster jerky almost removes it's penalties, so something cumulative that could case side efects like poisoning (may be the already implemented poisoning or a new one) or temporary insanity (like making you insane for a few seconds no matter how high was your sanity, os staying insane until kill a shadow creature or something)

But Woodie would have his transformation, unique to him, and I am not talking about turning other people into werebeavers to.

 

[Codsworth]

But Woodie would have his transformation, unique to him, and I am not talking about turning other people into werebeavers to.

 

what he becomes is not the issue, the thing is that he is the only one that can transform in something else, if everyone could do that it would kinda lose the magic of playing as woodie

[FateWeaver]

what he becomes is not the issue, the thing is that he is the only one that can transform in something else, if everyone could do that it would kinda lose the magic of playing as woodie

I disagree, I would still think playing Woodie would be unique, but that is my subjective opinion about this.

[Tzimiscelord]

i didnt know you was joking, my bad