Maz Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 So I was thinking about the characters that have not been implemented, and 2 characters in one DLC ain't much, so I thought of some ways that the other characters could be put in. (I know not all of them will be put in.)Wilton - Graveyard digging is helpful, but should have a hard punishment for farming them for free materials, but with a big reward. A 1/500 chance of digging a grave, a huge skeleton monster spawns, which can not be kited and has long range attacks. Every 1/10 damage done, a bone will break, making it smaller and weaker. When killed, the big monster would now be a little skeleton, which will jump back into the grave in fright. Filling the grave will unlock the character.This would make this one the hardest character to unlock in survival.Waverly - As rare as the eye bone, and an easier code than Wilton, you could make the broom a random spawn, and placing it on the wooden thing, along with the teleporto created, the broom will substitute for the divining rod. Instead of you going through, Waverly would come through, steal the broom, and fly away. I think this would be an award for making your first teleportato, which is an excellent feeling.Winnie (If she can still be available after Wigifried ) - Maybe she should be unlocked by bunnies? I don't know but she reminds me of a cute bunny.Wortox - He seems like a ruins character, I haven't been to the ruins so I can't speculate on that, but he seems like a ruins guy.Wallace - He seems old by his picture, and a bit menacing. Maybe he could be a friend of Maxwell's. unlocked by reaching day 150 with Maxwell, making him a toughy. You have to beat adventure AND day 150. (Day could be changed)Wilbur - If you find a vine on a tree and cook it, Wilbur will come into view and cry, disappearing a few seconds after. This would be a creepy, morbid, but awesome add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphKastro Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 the Wilton thing would be too chance based, in my opinion. It would just create the old Wes problem, which would make people go crazy trying to get him, worlds after worlds, without ever fiding the skelleton thing. The rest seems fine(even though they still need to balance Wigfrid and Webber(in relation to Wilson) for the final release) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22winston Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 sounds cool nice ideas creativity some balanced stuff i think your good its just that really hard for getting new characters into the game cause you know the theme in all but mods are always an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangerdanger101 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 the Wilton thing would be too chance based, in my opinion. It would just create the old Wes problem, which would make people go crazy trying to get him, worlds after worlds, without ever fiding the skelleton thing. The rest seems fine(even though they still need to balance Wigfrid and Webber(in relation to Wilson) for the final release)Not judging, but what do you think needs to be changed about webber and wigfrid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphKastro Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Not judging, but what do you think needs to be changed about webber and wigfrid?Webber's beard, whichmakes Wilson's only advantage no longer be an advantage over all, which makes Webber reasonably better than Wilson, and that's a problem because I believe the game is mostly balanced around Wilson(although if Webber got some small nerf like a lower health or hunger, it would be okay). and Wigfrid being basicly immortal, since she get's a super cheap and super effective helmet and spear combo, along with regaining health and sanity from killing stuff(seriously, she can only die to overheating and freezing, because starving is off the table, and nothing kills her with that helmet and a log suit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangerdanger101 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Webber's beard, whichmakes Wilson's only advantage no longer be an advantage over all, which makes Webber reasonably better than Wilson, and that's a problem because I believe the game is mostly balanced around Wilson(although if Webber got some small nerf like a lower health or hunger, it would be okay). and Wigfrid being basicly immortal, since she get's a super cheap and super effective helmet and spear combo, along with regaining health and sanity from killing stuff(seriously, she can only die to overheating and freezing, because starving is off the table, and nothing kills her with that helmet and a log suit)Webbers beard is fine, it makes Wilson feel less unique, but i doubt a lot of people play Wilson ONLY for his beard. Plus Wilson has no drawbacks. You would have to kill spiders to get silk otherwise. All characters is NOT balanced around Wilson, (There may be a few, but not all of them) they are different ways to play. While i agree Wigfrid could be toned down a little, (less health and sanity regained from killing things maybe) i think she is mostly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Webbers beard is fine, it makes Wilson feel less unique, but i doubt a lot of people play Wilson ONLY for his beard. Plus Wilson has no drawbacks. You would have to kill spiders to get silk otherwise. All characters is NOT balanced around Wilson, (There may be a few, but not all of them) they are different ways to play. While i agree Wigfrid could be toned down a little, (less health and sanity regained from killing things maybe) i think she is mostly fine.They are all balanced around Wilson though. That's why every other character has at least one negative attribute that encourages playing Wilson over them, he is the base for character balance. Arguably though, Wilson does have a major drawback: Having none of the abilities of the other 10 characters in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphKastro Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 it's the little things that bug me. The Webber beard thing is just that his beard comes alongside 25+health and hunger, while just less sanity. So the only really big problem with him(as making a tent becomes really easy to recover sanity) is the monster tag, but that only forces you to chop your own wood in the long run, since there are the spiders to help you. If they lowered the health or the hunger just a little bit(or did some other amazing Klei thing) he would feel right at the spot.As to Wigfrid yeah, just some tunning to the health and sanity regain might do it.the thing is, I know that every character is made to a certain play style, but since Wilson is the most basic character, it is much easier to make them all neither easier nor harder than Wilson. So in a way, they're balanced around Wilson, and so is the world around him(but in my opinion, the world needs a serious buff, or Wilson needs a serious nerf, because just look at the giants...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangerdanger101 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 They are all balanced around Wilson though. That's why every other character has at least one negative attribute that encourages playing Wilson over them, he is the base for character balance. Arguably though, Wilson does have a major drawback: Having none of the abilities of the other 10 characters in the game.Oh right, i forgot about that. I was having a brain fart there. Even if he has none of the abilities, i still like playing him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtwoface Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Balanced around Wilson? No offense, but that is kind of a joke. WX can eat gears to become the most powerful character in the game and his only drawback is that he needs an umbrella. If the devs are not going to balance WX (who I love playing with little upgrades, btw) ,the only change I can see happening to the ROG characters is Wigfrid not spawning with her special gear. On topic, I think your ideas are cool, except for that they seem a bit unbalanced in terms of how to unlock the characters. Fight a skeleton boss that you MIGHT get to show up versus building a teleportato? I think that they either need to be XP won or be unlocked through some small little quest like finding Webber's skull by killing a spider and placing it in an open grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Balanced around Wilson? No offense, but that is kind of a joke. WX can eat gears to become the most powerful character in the game and his only drawback is that he needs an umbrella. If the devs are not going to balance WX (who I love playing with little upgrades, btw) ,the only change I can see happening to the ROG characters is Wigfrid not spawning with her special gear.Wx78 is nothing more than an exaggeration on how powerful any character in the game can be in the long run. He is far from powerful when compared to other characters in long term worlds.You kind of have to picture all characters in an end-game scenario. For example: Wilson can constantly resurrect himself out of thin air as well as survive winter with less insulation items. Wickerbottom can constantly use spell books to grow crops, summon lightning, and put things to sleep. Webber can raise an entire spider army to do his bidding, never run out of silk, and survive winter easily like Wilson. Maxwell can summon up to 3 dirt cheap followers to rapidly do chores and destroy enemies, as well as never have to deal with sanity problems, strong weapons early game, and has less micromanagement overall. Wx-78 has...Boosted stats implying the player has eaten enough gears. That's about it unless you considered eating spoiled food with no penalty a huge perk when you have an unnecessarily large amount of hunger, health and sanity. Back to the thread though, a lot of these seem like good ideas. I would really like to see the rest of the characters put in the game at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invader Zim Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I have an idea for wortoxWortox: 5 parts of an acient altar will spawn randomly in the ruins, you must find them all and then place them on a candle ring (You need to find it too) then you need to place 1 of each gem and activate it, suddenly a lightning will strike the altar destroying it and creating a crack on the floor an evil laugh will be heard and then wortox will emerge from it and then disappear on a poof spawning 10 shadow creatures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InaneDugong Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Not everything in Don't Starve is about more characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maz Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Not everything in Don't Starve is about more charactersBut characters are cool I believe that, since all the new changes, maybe another character or two would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InaneDugong Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 But characters are cool I believe that, since all the new changes, maybe another character or two would be good. I'm honestly looking forward to new content, rather than new characters. The modding community has really gone to town on new characters (particularly since it's the easiest element to mod) so I'm not terribly worried about new mechanics and interesting innovations arising from that scene, but serious game balance, feature integration, and so on are things we can only expect to see from Klei in any manner of quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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