Ingway Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Hello there, i'm still quite new to this and i'd like to know, some things... i'll be numbering then down below.1-Starting out but having no clue where to place my science machine and my fire pit, i usually try to find a place near the pigs, since they're useful, but other than that i don't have much of a clue (i read that in certain nights wich are full moons,the pigs go hostile... so i assume i'm not doing the right thing by placing my camp near then).2-I'd like to know, is there a easy way to aim at butterflies or enemies in general? While trying to fight or kill something sometimes i misclick and end up walking towards it (died like a dumass like that once). 3-While in the topic of fighting, i hit a house of spiders that was near the pig houses i was taking shelter on, when i killed all the ones that came out, i hit it again to destroy it and 6 freaking spiders came out of it, nedeless to say i died. Is this right? If i hit their home even after the ones that came out before have been killed more come out?4- The things i unlocked with my science machine are supposed to still be unlocked even if i die? Semms to be happening here but i'm not enterily sure if that's right.5-What's probably the best way to earn research points for my science machine? I've alredy read that items from graves give you toons of points but is there anything else that's useful?That's all for now, thanks in advance. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/3137-so-whats-the-best-way-to-start-out/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay667b Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 1. I placed mine near a bridge, away from things.2. Just make sure it's the right option while you're hovering over it, human error is a killer.3. Must've double clicked, hitting it twice.4. Working as intended.5. Pre-patch I got a ton by using fried tallbird eggs but now you have to run very far to escape them so I stopped farming them (might be worth a try for you), you can get a lot of points through items you dig up from graves and people seem to use tufts of grass a lot too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/3137-so-whats-the-best-way-to-start-out/#findComment-25708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 1. The best place to put it largely depends on your map's layout. I tend to put my base in or near Beefalo fields, as long as other needed supplies (trees and food sources) aren't too far away.2. Just clicking once on the enemy (Your character will say something when they go to attack, to let you know that you're not just examining or moving) is enough. Your character will automatically home in and try to attack it.3. Those webs can hold multiple waves of spiders. The bigger the web mound, the more waves you'll have to deal with. The biggest ones send out 3 waves of spiders, I think.4. That's currently how it works. There's plans for the research system to be axed in the future and replaced by something else.5. I quickly farmed up research points by generating a map with a good graveyard not far from spawn. I'd quickly get all the supplies needed to make a science machine and a shovel, dig up all the items, and toss them in the machine. Once I cleared it out, I'd suicide and restart the same map again. If you aren't willing to start over from your current game, just dig up any graves you can find. Tallbird eggs and mandrakes (I think) are also valuable, but in short supply. Dug-up bushes also give a decent amount of research points, but you can't get those back, so overdoing it could lead to an island stripped of resources. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/3137-so-whats-the-best-way-to-start-out/#findComment-25722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossKing Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I agree with jay in all except 5, I use gold for RP, if you have a good meat farm around you, its pretty easy to get gold from a pig king. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/3137-so-whats-the-best-way-to-start-out/#findComment-25723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchanter Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 1. A nice foresty place, or a meadow with bunnies2. Press/Spam SPACEBAR (CTRL + SPACEBAR for things like Spider Nests) and you will attack any nearby enemies, and harvest any nearby materials.3. Spider Nests can house up to 12 or 13 spiders4. Yep, intended5. Boards, If they haven't fixed it yet. They used to give around 30 or so. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/3137-so-whats-the-best-way-to-start-out/#findComment-25868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marak Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Eh, I'll bite.1-Starting out but having no clue where to place my science machine and my fire pit, i usually try to find a place near the pigs, since they're useful, but other than that i don't have much of a clue (i read that in certain nights wich are full moons,the pigs go hostile... so i assume i'm not doing the right thing by placing my camp near then).A lot of it depends on your map layout, but most people (myself included) tend to build on or near either A) the Pig "capitol" where the Pig King lives, or B) in the midst of the nearest large herd of Beefalo. In both cases, you'll have easy access to 1) creatures to defend you when attacked, 2) lots of poo, 3) something you can kill for Meat, and 4) if you live with the piggies, you can give stuff to the Pig King in exchange for (potentially tons of) Gold Nuggets.2-I'd like to know, is there a easy way to aim at butterflies or enemies in general? While trying to fight or kill something sometimes i misclick and end up walking towards it (died like a dumass like that once).Unfortunately, no. But mashing the WASD keys can help to cancel out a mis-click and get your guy (or gal) moving in the direction you want to go again. In fact, using WASD in combat, in combination with clicking, can be something that's very helpful, depending on your play style and willingness to practice using it.3-While in the topic of fighting, i hit a house of spiders that was near the pig houses i was taking shelter on, when i killed all the ones that came out, i hit it again to destroy it and 6 freaking spiders came out of it, nedeless to say i died. Is this right? If i hit their home even after the ones that came out before have been killed more come out?Yep, that's right. Each time you hit the Nest, another "wave" of four Spiders will come out, regardless of whether or not the last "wave" is dead. A small Nest (a single blob) only has 1-2 waves of Spiders, but the larger 2- and 3-part Nests can have 3 or even 4 waves of Spiders to throw at you. Once again, this is a good way to practice combat: hit a large nest once, deal with all 4 Spiders, repeat (many times) until you no longer get hit a whole bunch doing this.4- The things i unlocked with my science machine are supposed to still be unlocked even if i die? Semms to be happening here but i'm not enterily sure if that's right.That's correct, anything you unlock/research remains available to you in every new game, and with any character. Makes for a persistent meta-game, sort of like unlocking new power-ups or equipment in, say, a Roguelike (Binding of Isaac comes to mind, but there are plenty of others). Keep in mind this system is subject to change drastically sometime in the new year, so sayeth Kevin.5-What's probably the best way to earn research points for my science machine? I've alredy read that items from graves give you toons of points but is there anything else that's useful?There are many, many options here:1) Items from Graves are always worth 80 Points each if I remember correctly, so there's that.2) Giving Grave items to the Pig King results in him throwing lots of Gold Nuggets at you. At 15 Points per Nugget, if he throws 6 or more at you per Grave item, you'll actually get more Points then if you fed the item directly into the Science Machine.3) Grass Tufts. Currently give you 20 Research Points. No one's sure why - other than that Grass is a finite resource - but a shovel and a little patience can net you tons of points.4) Cooked Monster Meat. Not quite as, uh, lucrative as Grass Tufts - they're "only" worth 12 points per cooked meat - but Monster Meat is effectively an infinite resource as long as you "re-plant" some of the Spider Nests you're destroying. Basically, you can go to a Spider Nest-infested area or your local Swamp, kill as many Spiders and Tentacles as you can, cook up all the meat, and toss it in the machine.5) Related to both 2) and 4), you can abuse the Pig King in another way: farm up as much Silk as you can (or use all the Silk you got doing #4) to make a 4-8 Bird Traps. Place the traps under and around the Pig King. Stand around for a bit with the traps on-screen, and wait for the birds to get snared. Each trap lasts for 10 catches, and each catch gets you 1 Morsel, and each Morsel gets you 1 Gold Nugget, and each Gold is worth 15 Points. So that's, essentially, 150 Research Points per Bird Trap and all you have to do is farm some Silk and then stand around for a bit.I'm sure there's other ways to "farm" Research Points (one of the reasons the current system is going away: to easy to cheese it plus it promotes grind-y, repetitive play), but that should be enough to get you maxed out if you're interested. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/3137-so-whats-the-best-way-to-start-out/#findComment-25912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerTheDragon Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Hello. Heres my tips.1) I usually find a place with lots of space , but the best place to have a base in my current opinion is to have it nxt to some beefalo's and maybe build some pig houses , as long as you have pig houses for each pig , i don't know or not if they turn into werepigs and kill you.2) If your close enough you can use Space Bar , but you may end up wandering off and picking up loads of items.3) Yes , it depends on how big it was , if it was a small one it should nly have 3 sets , if its 2 big , it'll come out with 2 sets and if theres 3 nests ontop of eachothe , expect alot of spiders4) Yes , that is correct.5) I dig up graves , sinse there are usually found in a group , and they give 80 Research points each , or I dig up grass (sinse my bases are usually near alot of grass) and get 20 each , by the time i get 10 , I have 200 research points. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/3137-so-whats-the-best-way-to-start-out/#findComment-25995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solnaga Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 There's plenty of comments on all the points but I'd just like to highlight the spiders part. L3 (3 sacks) nests are the only ones that produce an egg when destroyed. Best way to destroy a nest is to click on it once, press spacebar once (autoattack), run away and kite each spider. When you become proficient at kiting spiders and their attack animation timings, you can take on the last 2 spiders at the same time without getting hit. Rinse and repeat.Similar thing applies for beefalo (4 hits before kiting) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/3137-so-whats-the-best-way-to-start-out/#findComment-26000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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