ailailou Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 (edited) Hello everyone, I just came up with this small idea of another use for the Straw Hat. I was playing my first world with Woodie and I stumbled upon a skeleton set piece that had a Straw Hat. Since it was on day one and because I had nothing to equip the hat slot with, I decided to put it on and wear it until I could craft something that actually had some real usefulness. Now, while wearing the Straw Hat I started gathering some grass and twigs and to my surprise I actually had the impression that I was gathering them just a little bit faster. At first I couldn't believe my eyes, but I started picking another one, and another one, and for some kind of reason or another I actually thought that the Straw Hat affected the gathering speed.Well, I was of course proven wrong in the next couple of minutes where I actually realized there was no difference in the speed of gathering twigs/grass wearing the Straw Hat or not. However, this short misunderstanding on my part got me the following conclusion, which is actually the idea I wanted to present since the beginning but I could not because I'm a poor bloke who is used to writing big chunk of text without any real use to the final purpose: what do you think if the Straw Hat could affect the gathering speed of the character while being equipped? Now, let me tell you how I I would see this in plain terms. Pros:the Straw Hat offers a pretty good protection from the Sun, which would make work easier out in the open resulting in a more efficient manner of gathering materials such as Twigs, Grass and Berries.the speed should not be extremely fast, but rather fast enough as to make the Straw Hat useful enough to have with you in your trips meant to gather the above mentioned resources. I would think of it just a tidy bit faster than it is now, I might add that the speed could also be sufficient enough as to only slightly notice the speed variation with the hat off or on.Cons:durability could be added to the Straw Hat. It shouldn't wear off very fast, but somewhere around 80 uses, or maybe 100. e.g: you gather one stack of Twigs and one stack of Grass, and by the time you want to gather the 80th piece the Straw Hot loses all the durability and a new one should be crafted. (one stack meaning 40 pieces).at the moment it takes 12 pieces of Grass to craft a Straw Hat. For this point, I am not entirely sure if it is advisable to make the resources needed for crafting a con. All I could think for now is adding some Twigs in and maybe increase the number of Grass requirement.This would be all for now. It's just an idea which at first glance might be easy to be put in practice in the form of a mod, however, I have absolutely no experience when it comes to modding, so feel free to contradict me here. If you believe it's worth the effort of making the mod possible, I'll simply remain the man with the idea and not much else. I don't know, is it even possible to make such a modification? Since Woodie can chop down trees faster, and the Pick/Axe multitool does approximately the same thing while being used, maybe the same effect could be added to the Straw Hat but affecting the gathering speed? Oh, and meanwhile I also remembered that adding Mushrooms and Reeds might be a good idea as well. Edited November 29, 2013 by ailailou Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritoz Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 so it would kind of be like the "lazy forager" that is craftable on the ancient psuedoscience altar? i think 80 uses is a lot, since the lazy forager costs alot of resources that are hard to get and it has less uses. its a good idea though for people who dont ever want to go into the ruins Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-383369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ailailou Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) Hm, so the Lazy Forager already has such a perk? Even though I've played the game for a long time now I've never actually crafted the amulet, but from what I know it doesn't increase the speed of gathering said resource but only automatically picks up any item that is on the ground. The Farmer's Hat is not supposed to do this, but only increase a tiny bit the speed of gathering grass, twigs, berries from their corresponding saplings/bushes. As for the uses, imagine having a Twigs Farm near your base, 40 saplings to be more precise. Now, you might gather all 40 pieces of twigs in let's say 25 seconds. If you'd equip the new improved Straw Hat you'd end up gathering everything in 20 seconds. So it only helps gathering resources which require harvesting at a faster rate, similarly to how Woodie cuts trees faster than any other character, but in the case of the Farmer's Straw Hat the difference in speed wouldn't be as noticeable as with Woodie's chopping speed. Woodie has the before mentioned advantage while using any of the 3 tools available for such an action (Axe, Golden Axe, Multitool), but imagine if he'd be able to cut down trees faster only while having Lucy the Axe equipped. If such would be the case, then the Farmer's Straw Hat would be something similar to Lucy the Axe. Meanwhile, I've done a search in the Don't Starve files with the hope I'll find Woodies code so that I might find the lines which give him the faster rate of cutting trees, but no luck so far. As I've said before, I have little knowledge when it comes down to programming. (I'm barely getting a grip of the C language at the moment). Edited December 4, 2013 by ailailou Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-383548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
julz1981 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I like the idea but would make it infinite since it gives a very small boost and you need to have the hat with you. Hopefully, somone will make this mod possible, along with a Farm overhaul eventually?Like having to take care of your crops, adding fruit trees and maybe small animals that give food, I would love to see hen that drops eggs at the same rate that beefalo drops manure, and also maybe sheep that you have to shave for fur "again just like beefalo" and cows that you can milk once every day for 1 milk "milk could be used to make butter on the crockpot, for butter muffin or new recipes" Again, hopefully someone makes your idea into a mod, or takes my ideas XD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-383714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ailailou Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Well, the team working on Up and Away will have some kind of Ram so it might be advisable to let your wool shaving idea known on a thread of theirs in the form of a suggestion. I've been thinking about the possibility of leaving the Hat with infinite durability just as it is now, but I always remember how convenient it is for me to craft a Spear and use it until it reaches around 5% durability and afterwards just make an Ice Staff with it, so putting durability on the Hat will do the same sort of thing to it but instead of an Ice Staff you'd have to use it for a Miner Hat. But infinite durability might be a possibility as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-383724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosten Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) If you're still looking through lucy's code, i believe this is the portion in which her chopping speed is changed inst:AddComponent("tool") inst.components.tool:SetAction(ACTIONS.CHOP, 2)My guess is the 2 means twice the normal speed of chopping. Edited December 4, 2013 by Blazingice26 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-383745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ailailou Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) As far as I know Lucy doesn't affect the speed of chopping, but rather Woodie simply cuts trees faster on his own. I believe that if you play with any other character besides Woodie and debugspawn Lucy, you won't chop trees faster while you have her equipped, but please correct me if I'm wrong, I will nevertheless test this as soon as possible. @Blazingice26, thank you for the input. Hm, if that value is the chopping speed then it should be 1 in the case of a normal Axe, and maybe other tools, but if I'm correct in my previous paragraph then that "2" will have nothing to do with the chopping speed. I'll see if I can find the portion referring to the other tools. Hopefully I'll find Woodie's code as well the Straw Hat one. Edited December 4, 2013 by ailailou Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-383762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosten Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) As far as I know Lucy doesn't affect the speed of chopping, but rather Woodie simply cuts trees faster on his own. I believe that if you play with any other character besides Woodie and debugspawn Lucy, you won't chop trees faster while you have her equipped, but please correct me if I'm wrong, I will nevertheless test this as soon as possible. @Blazingice26, thank you for the input. Hm, if that value is the chopping speed then it should be 1 in the case of a normal Axe, and maybe other tools, but if I'm correct in my previous paragraph then that "2" will have nothing to do with the chopping speed. I'll see if I can find the portion referring to the other tools. Hopefully I'll find Woodie's code as well the Straw Hat one.The normal tools all have inst:AddComponent("tool") inst.components.tool:SetAction(ACTIONS.CHOP)Edit - If there is a part in woodies code changing chopping speed, i must not be looking hard enough, since i don't seem to see much pertaining to chopping Edited December 4, 2013 by Blazingice26 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-383770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlewjlew Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 yes i want to go faster so i dont die so much!!!! this is good idea for me Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-384136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Perry Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Well, the team working on Up and Away will have some kind of Ram so it might be advisable to let your wool shaving idea known on a thread of theirs in the form of a suggestion. yep, currently the rams or sheep aren't shave-able. I may bring that discussion to the team Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-384291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
julz1981 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 yep, currently the rams or sheep aren't shave-able. I may bring that discussion to the teamGreat idea XDbut will these animals make it into the main world? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-384328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Perry Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Great idea XDbut will these animals make it into the main world?I don't think so, if you have anything you want us to discuss go here: http://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/27648-suggestions-cauldron-of-ideas/page-37#entry383883 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-384330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
julz1981 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I don't think so, if you have anything you want us to discuss go here: http://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/27648-suggestions-cauldron-of-ideas/page-37#entry383883all righty, thx for the quick reply XD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30084-mod-ideathe-farmers-straw-hat/#findComment-384353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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