Frustrated Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) Okay, yet another weird fluid shift occurred and my PH2O supply somehow got Petroleum in it. Makes absolutely zero sense as the petroleum pipes and areas are distinct and separate from the PH2O pipes. But as a result, Petroleum got into the irrigation pipes feeding my pincha pepperplants and arbor trees. Now they're all showing "Irrigation (stored)" even though I've already purged all the petroleum out of the pipes and returned the correct fluids to them. How do I get them to resume growth? On a separate note, it won't allow me to build High Pressure Gas Vents now because it claims I have no Refined Metal or Plastic. I have, literal, tons of Refined Iron from my metal volcano, as well as Steel and assorted other metals, and 227.5 TONS of plastic. Why is game so busted? Edited June 14 by Frustrated Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
myxal Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) "Stored irrigation" means liquid stored in the farm tile itself, not the pipe feeding it. There's an "Empty storage" button on the hydroponic farm tile's side screen. 54 minutes ago, Frustrated said: it claims I have no Refined Metal or Plastic Are those materials accessible/reserved? 55 minutes ago, Frustrated said: Why is game so busted? - puts on a Benett Foddy voice... The soul would have no rainbow had the eyes no tears. — John Vance Cheney Edited June 14 by myxal 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Because ONI is a simulation, there are tons of ways to sabotage yourself, often with small things. I have done it to myself countless times. What you need to do is to check. For unavailable materials, try to move some of that material next to the place where you need it. Usually you find out where you are blocking it that way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanchozz Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Petroleum got inside your hydroponic farms. You can click on each farm one by one to press the Empty Storage button or just use this mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3305874874 High Pressure Gas Vents now require "Gasket" instead of Plastic. it can be crafted on Crafting Station. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustrated Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 12 minutes ago, Sanchozz said: Petroleum got inside your hydroponic farms. You can click on each farm one by one to press the Empty Storage button or just use this mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3305874874 High Pressure Gas Vents now require "Gasket" instead of Plastic. it can be crafted on Crafting Station. That's incredibly annoying. Both items. I wound up deconstructing and reconstructing the tiles, and the whole "gasket" thing is just stupid, in my humble opinion. Whatever... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustrated Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 2 hours ago, Gurgel said: Because ONI is a simulation, there are tons of ways to sabotage yourself, often with small things. I have done it to myself countless times. What you need to do is to check. For unavailable materials, try to move some of that material next to the place where you need it. Usually you find out where you are blocking it that way. When I say that I keep them separate, I mean that my "lake" of PH2O is on one side of a layer of abyssalite, and my "lake" of petroleum is on another side...with an entire biome in between them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Well. It might be a bug. Or it may have a mis-delivered bottle. If it is a bug and you can reproduce it, please file a bug report. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustrated Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 (edited) 22 hours ago, myxal said: Are those materials accessible/reserved? Yes. I always have refined metal and plastic lying about on the floor. I haven't been very good about picking up after myself. 10 hours ago, Gurgel said: Well. It might be a bug. Or it may have a mis-delivered bottle. If it is a bug and you can reproduce it, please file a bug report. I don't know if I can reproduce it. There's plenty of liquid water and PH2O in the petroleum because the petroleum sits beneath a winter biome that has almost fully melted, but that should not be the case in the PH2O supply because that's *above* the oily biome and in a separate, already-fully-melted winter biome. It's just another mess I had to fix. Edited June 15 by Frustrated Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKBERREST3 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Sounds like you're Frusterated 1 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustrated Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 100% Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 7 hours ago, Frustrated said: that's *above* the oily biome and in a separate, already-fully-melted winter biome. So, there's often cross-contamination between biomes. Sometimes it is difficult to notice. This is a somewhat more obvious example: Spoiler I've had some where it isn't obvious at all, but none in my current map to use as an example. I've also had examples of mixed-material areas (gas or liquid) not self-sorting correctly. For example, that little bit of CO2 was occasionally getting worryingly close to the fan when I had my pressure sensor set to turn on at "above 500." Now its set at "above 2000" and the CO2 is no longer a problem. Spoiler Anyway.. I've had plenty of builds where I thought I did everything right and ended up with a small amount of the wrong material in an otherwise closed area. It happens. I once even had a slime biome that had a single tile of 20k natural gas surrounded by slime. The biome under it was oasis, and under THAT was the oil biome. So you might expect some hydrogen gas contamination. Nope! It was NG and I wasn't paying attention as I dug into it and suddenly there was a flood of NG into my base. Fun times! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 2 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: Anyway.. I've had plenty of builds where I thought I did everything right and ended up with a small amount of the wrong material in an otherwise closed area. It happens. Same. The thing is, ONI is a simulation. Simulations are merciless and have no guards. They are not the forgiving type of base builders. That makes them more challenging, but also more fun since you can try whatever contraption you can think of, instead of only what the designers expected. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustrated Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 I get it, but it's not that simple. Let me explain: Spoiler That smallish supply of PH2O near the top, above the Turbine that's cooling down my heat deletion box? That's where the petroleum that went into the crops was somehow pumped from. That massive lake of petroleum at the bottom? That's where I keep my petroleum. Any H2O or PH2O in the petroleum lake is from melted ice from the biome above it. The pump that pumps out petroleum is at the bottom of the lake, so the chances of it pumping out anything else are very slim, and I also have existing liquid filters to separate those from it. That's what I meant when I said that there was "an entire biome" between the two supplies. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, Frustrated said: That massive lake of petroleum at the bottom? That's where I keep my petroleum. Yep, that is certainly where you keep your petroleum. 2 hours ago, Frustrated said: and I also have existing liquid filters to separate those from it. Your base style is a bit more chaotic than mine. Nothing wrong with that; just an observation. So I really have no idea how you move liquids around in your base other than statements you've made like the ones above. Yeah, your pool of PW is up top, your pool of petrol is down low. I see some petrol and NG generators which leak PW and I assume it is being pumped back up into that pool. Were any pipes destructed/rebuilt to organize around the generators or the pools? I don't know where or how you're filtering. Are you filtering before it hits the pool, or are you filtering what is leaving the pool? Did you re-use some pipe that may have had previous materials in it? Is the line going to your hydroponics from the orange "only the element you select" output or the green "everything else" output? Or are you using pipe element sensor/liquid shutoff type filtering? Or are you using a liquid valve to reduce flow and using a bridge/valve filter? Are you sharing pipes, where you've got pumps in multiple different elements that run periodically to pump down the same pipe and then filter things out later down the line? These all have different edge-case problems that could lead to the wrong element down the line. You're not giving us a lot to work with here. On 6/14/2026 at 2:27 AM, Frustrated said: my PH2O supply somehow got Petroleum in it. Its difficult for anyone to help you figure out how it may have happened without a lot more detail about the problem. So all we can really do is make generalized observations about what has happened to us previously: 8 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: I've had plenty of builds where I thought I did everything right and ended up with a small amount of the wrong material in an otherwise closed area. It happens. 2 hours ago, Frustrated said: I get it, but it's not that simple. *shrug* If you want us to help you solve the cross-contamination, we're going to need a lot more detail than "my PW is at the top, my Petrol is at the bottom, and somehow I got Petrol in my PW and it got pumped to my plants." Unless you were just complaining, and that's OK too, but it isn't productive. You're frustrated and saying the "game is busted," but its difficult to tell if this is a GAME problem or a PLAYER problem. Either way, if you give us more details, we'll help figure out how you got cross contamination so that it can be avoided in the future. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1871961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustrated Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 Here's the main filter that separates petroleum from everything else: Spoiler The green output of the filter leads up to another filter that separates PH2O (which goes back into the PH2O lake) from H2O (which goes into a water sieve currently) and refills the water supply for my bristle blossoms. Spoiler Yes, my base is chaotic. I keep finding new reasons not to restructure my piping and wiring more cleanly. But I can't see how the petroleum that is separated further south would leak into the PH2O. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1872016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 3 hours ago, Frustrated said: Here's the main filter that separates petroleum from everything else: Hide contents I see that there are pipe segments and such that suggest this area has been re-done a bit here and there. If I were to hazard a guess, I would say that when you were setting up and adjusting the area in the upper left, or the filter itself initially, that's where the contamination got in. I stuck a filter on a saltwater line in my current run just to test things. In the case where there was power already going to where the filter was being built, it allowed salt water through the green 'everything else' line until I set the filter to send it through the orange line. That meant I had one packet of salt water that went down the green pipe once I gave that end an output. The other possibility could be a pipe deconstruct that had a drop of petrol that spilled under the petrol generators and simply went unnoticed for a while. Those are the two possibilities I can see. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1872033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustrated Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 Not sure what you mean. The orange line from that filter goes to the nearby petroleum generators. The bit of unfinished piping was originally from a bunch of ethanol distillers that I've since stopped using because they produce a ridiculous amount of CO2 and an underwhelming amount of ethanol. That area is open to the bottom of my colony, so I had to be careful not to let the CO2 build up to much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1872040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curry MAMA Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 There's something I'd like you to check. Please disassemble all the Liquid Filters (or the ones that remove impurities from PH2O) and check the piping underneath. If you accidentally connect the piping between the orange port and the green port, the Liquid Filter may not function as intended. Just like this. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1872042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 3 hours ago, Frustrated said: Not sure what you mean. The orange line from that filter goes to the nearby petroleum generators. I am aware. The orange line is not a problem. You did not get polluted water in your generator. You got petroleum in your planter. If the input line is full of petroleum and the output pipe under the "green" square is built (but maybe not yet connected to anything) and the power line is energized, then the moment the filter finishes being constructed, the pipe under the "green" segment will get a bit of petroleum in it from your input line. It will be invisible until the "green" line has an output somewhere and the small amount of petroleum can move because the "green" box will hide it. I'm not sure if I can explain the problem any better. 1 hour ago, Curry MAMA said: If you accidentally connect the piping between the orange port and the green port, the Liquid Filter may not function as intended. This can also be a problem, but your screenshot would have indicated it since your petrol line is completely full and your "green" line is completely empty. 3 hours ago, Frustrated said: because they produce a ridiculous amount of CO2 Speaking of crazy amounts of CO2... The first geyser I uncovered on my current map pumps out liquid CO2. The second vent I uncovered emits gaseous CO2... Such is life. *sigh* Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1872044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustrated Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 Yeah, I have a CO2 geyser. I'm told it sucks. Not that I have anything to use CO2 for. 2 hours ago, Curry MAMA said: There's something I'd like you to check. Please disassemble all the Liquid Filters (or the ones that remove impurities from PH2O) and check the piping underneath. If you accidentally connect the piping between the orange port and the green port, the Liquid Filter may not function as intended. Just like this. Yeah, I found out about that a long time ago. Whenever I build new pipes or wires, I run them to the tile just before the connection to be made, then build a single pipe *on* the point. Part of that is that I've learned this lesson, another part is that it always annoys me when dupes build over the tile that was previously there. Like I have Lead wiring leading to a bunker door that has a steel wire and connecting the two eventually causes a dupe to replace the steel wire with another lead wire, which eventually causes the wire to melt when hot regolith gets on the door. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1872048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curry MAMA Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 7 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: This can also be a problem, but your screenshot would have indicated it since your petrol line is completely full and your "green" line is completely empty. Unfortunately, this phenomenon also occurs when the orange port pipe is empty. To be precise, oil is transported alternately through both pipes, but only if there is water in the green port will it be directed to the correct pipe. The screenshot was taken at a time that clearly shows the filter is set to separate the oil. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1872083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKBERREST3 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 if this is still an issue, can you post the save here? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1872090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustrated Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 It's not an issue anymore that I can see. Must have been yet another random fluke event. Additionally, I've been working on deconstructing pipes that aren't connected to anything and re-arranging existing ones. I need to be a bit more ruthless at that. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1872128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted Friday at 05:06 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:06 PM I've rarely encountered "random fluke events." Generally odd events fall into two categories: Either I wasn't paying attention and did something wrong, or its a reproduceable bug. On 6/16/2026 at 6:44 PM, Curry MAMA said: To be precise, oil is transported alternately through both pipes, but only if there is water in the green port will it be directed to the correct pipe. That sounds like @Curry MAMA's example a few posts up, where the pipes behind the green and orange blocks are connected behind the filter. I haven't messed with liquid filters enough to know if some of these other edge cases might be a factor: When there is power loss, does fluid still travel through the green pipe, If the 'orange' pipe is completely full, does filtered fluid continue down the green pipe. Is the filter 'glitchy' during power up? I.e. if it loses power and then power comes back, does the filter let things slip through? On 6/17/2026 at 8:21 AM, Frustrated said: I've been working on deconstructing pipes that aren't connected to anything Just double-check that they're either empty or you know what is in them before you deconstruct. I've made a few messes on accident by not paying attention. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1872341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curry MAMA Posted Saturday at 01:48 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:48 AM 8 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: それは@カリーママ数件上の投稿にある例では、緑とオレンジのブロックの後ろにあるパイプがフィルターの後ろで接続されています。私は液体フィルターを十分に扱ったことがないので、これらの他のエッジケースが影響する可能性があるかどうかはわかりません。 That's right. In other words, the screenshot I showed is an example of a mistake where "the orange and green sections were connected by mistake." 8 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: 停電が発生した場合、液体は緑色のパイプを通って流れ続けますか? No. The filter will not forward signals from the input (white) to other ports unless power is supplied. 8 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: オレンジ色のパイプが完全に満杯の場合、ろ過された液体は緑色のパイプを通って流れ続けるのでしょうか。 Yes. If the connection is incorrect, the liquid transferred to the orange port will pass through the green port and flow into the wrong pipe. Of course, as mentioned earlier, if the orange port is not full, the liquid will flow alternately through both pipes. This should be fair to both the orange and green ports, so I think the reverse pattern (green → orange) is also possible. 8 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: 電源投入時にフィルターが「不具合」を起こしますか?つまり、電源が切れてその後復旧した場合、フィルターが異物を通過させてしまうことはありますか? I haven't tried it myself, but probably not. The filter won't transfer data from the white port to other ports unless it's powered. However, if you forget to specify the liquid to be filtered, it will obviously malfunction. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172162-irrigation-stored/#findComment-1872405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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