[Game Update] - 725977

[hdfha123]

Feedback
(1) The Exploiterator is still very clumsy, often repeatedly losing lock when attacking creatures like the Pigman
(2) The drone model is too large, often blocking the view

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, HowlVoid said:

Literally so.many of you complained it wasnt thematic enough so they changed it.

I am so confused, this forum should be studied.

I just hope they do not let player feedback from their forums decide the direction of content they plan for DSE, I consider DST to be a service their still trying to milk out 10 years later with “fan service” but when it comes to DSE I pray that they have a clear enough idea of what they plan to do with it from start to finish rather than the random, disconnected & sometimes incomplete updates they seem to do for DST. 

[GamePlayer42]

6 hours ago, Baark0 said:

So ignoring the fact most feedback seems to be that people aren't happy with the shadow affinity, we still can't see the stats, equipment slots, or circuit slots of lunar affinity clones, despite this easily being one of the most asked for things.

it was likely internally discussed and decided that it wasnt the right move

[Deurus]

Survey results: 44 members participated.

It's worth noting that most people feel the circuits need improvement, especially the Gamma circuits, followed by the Beta and then the Alpha circuits.

I took the time to evaluate the circuits because, and I think this is true for most people, they're the most interesting aspect of the character. I sincerely hope that extra time is dedicated to polishing or modifying small details we all consider necessary, such as a selection wheel (since most characters have one).

Personally, I think Klei did review everything that was said about the affinities, but time didn't allow for it. However, communicating the vision or objective they were aiming for would have made things clearer for everyone.

[Foxgrove pigeon]

1 hour ago, Cheggf said:

Oh no. WX only has all of the things he already had like permanently ignoring light and temperature or moving fast, and also he has super high stats with percentage reductions/increases to related things like sanity gain/drain, and also his existing circuits are way stronger, and also he got a bunch of new circuits like an AoE attack, and also he can passively scout the entire map out, and also he can teleport around everywhere, and also he can teleport items, and also he has a bunch of small perks like reviving and charging faster, and also he has a cheese drone that can kill things safely, and also he can make a bunch of copies of himself, and also he can get a passive Lazy Forager, and also he can do a few other things, and also he gets the same damage bonus as Wigfrid.

Did you see that? The same damage bonus as Wigfrid. ONLY the same damage bonus as Wigfrid? Wow. Trash character. My mod character who has 10x movespeed, 8x damage, permanent night vision, and an immunity to all temperature is way stronger than this. How DARE Klei ONLY give me the SAME DAMAGE BONUS AS WIGFRID, the CHARACTER WHO IS EXPLICITLY DESIGNED TO BE FOR COMBAT. Wow. WX-78 may as well be removed from the game, because this is UNPLAYABLE. How about instead of a 24% damage bonus, it was a 24,000,000% damage bonus? And maybe instead of the Auto-Grabber being a Lazy Forager, it would auto-grab some Steam Gift Cards and Klei pays me $50 an hour for playing this HORRIBLE character? 

Roasted so good like a decent coffee bean. 
 

[GamePlayer42]

8 hours ago, Jussatoon said:

Likely true, but do you think they'll ever externally say no to feedback, or do we have more luck seeing that kind of transparency in Elsewhere?

same company so im not really sure what you expect, transparency should be standard for both games really 

[Jussatoon]

7 minutes ago, GamePlayer42 said:

same company so im not really sure what you expect

I expect them to openly say no at some point. 

[cropo]

9 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said:

For those of us who didn't play the beta, what does the shadow affinity perk do? 

Since no one answered you.

Slotting a nightmare fuel unlocks a recipie for gathering drones. I think the limit is 2, but slotting in a horror allows you to make 3. They "repeat" your pick up actions on similar items and can harvest. If you have a garden of grass, picking up one will make each of them pick up one and deliver it to you. Laying a Chasis down will put them into auto mode and they will deposit the contents into the Chasis. I think they can do this even if the area isn't loaded, and I also think it works with the elastipacer circuit.

Slotting a shadow heart will unlock a recipe for exploiterators, which are drones that follow you around and will attempt to scan anything you hit. As they scan it, WX does I think 6% increased physical damage(NOT PLANAR) for each drone. They drones can break their scan if the boss moves and it's generally unrealistic to expect them to have 100% uptime on the thing you're fighting. A possessed shadow heart will allow you to craft an additional one.

Eating a nightmare fuel will add a shadowy ink to WX's power bar, giving them full power even if they do not have any power. Pure horror simply lasts longer.

Edited yesterday at 07:44 AM by cropo

[NASAZZAM]

I fail to see the purpose of such an extended beta period when critical user feedback is consistently overlooked. Despite the long testing phase, the Shadow Affinity update feels like a step backward in terms of gameplay convenience. It's disappointing to see high-quality community suggestions ignored in favor of silence. A long wait for a very lackluster result.

[LordeMao]

Is the WOBOT no longer putting things in the Chester or is it bug? 

[Jakepeng99]

4 hours ago, Cheggf said:

Oh no. WX only has all of the things he already had like permanently ignoring light and temperature or moving fast, and also he has super high stats with percentage reductions/increases to related things like sanity gain/drain, and also his existing circuits are way stronger, and also he got a bunch of new circuits like an AoE attack, and also he can passively scout the entire map out, and also he can teleport around everywhere, and also he can teleport items, and also he has a bunch of small perks like reviving and charging faster, and also he has a cheese drone that can kill things safely, and also he can make a bunch of copies of himself, and also he can get a passive Lazy Forager, and also he can do a few other things, and also he gets the same damage bonus as Wigfrid.

Did you see that? The same damage bonus as Wigfrid. ONLY the same damage bonus as Wigfrid? Wow. Trash character. My mod character who has 10x movespeed, 8x damage, permanent night vision, and an immunity to all temperature is way stronger than this. How DARE Klei ONLY give me the SAME DAMAGE BONUS AS WIGFRID, the CHARACTER WHO IS EXPLICITLY DESIGNED TO BE FOR COMBAT. Wow. WX-78 may as well be removed from the game, because this is UNPLAYABLE. How about instead of a 24% damage bonus, it was a 24,000,000% damage bonus? And maybe instead of the Auto-Grabber being a Lazy Forager, it would auto-grab some Steam Gift Cards and Klei pays me $50 an hour for playing this HORRIBLE character? 

Well said. They also have 3x more circuit slots, the Wigfrid scare spell but way better, AOE and Wood chopping that rival Wendy and Woodie respectfully, has farming that rivals Wormwood (probably better, all Wormwood can do is plant seeds faster), rivals Maxwell at harvesting twigs and such, even being the only character who can autofarm. Can have the broken clockwork army again, and makes clockworks neutral and easier to tame. Heck on top of that they can have 10 followers for free if you wish.

They have so manh powerful options that im sure to forget some. They can do literally everything. Anywhere, anytime. Though a small health nerf, and a nerf to the beanbooster which allowed insane sustainability being nerfed invalidates it all.

[Hi.]

5 hours ago, Cheggf said:

Oh no. WX only has all of the things he already had like permanently ignoring light and temperature or moving fast, and also he has super high stats with percentage reductions/increases to related things like sanity gain/drain, and also his existing circuits are way stronger, and also he got a bunch of new circuits like an AoE attack, and also he can passively scout the entire map out, and also he can teleport around everywhere, and also he can teleport items, and also he has a bunch of small perks like reviving and charging faster, and also he has a cheese drone that can kill things safely, and also he can make a bunch of copies of himself, and also he can get a passive Lazy Forager, and also he can do a few other things, and also he gets the same damage bonus as Wigfrid.

Did you see that? The same damage bonus as Wigfrid. ONLY the same damage bonus as Wigfrid? Wow. Trash character. My mod character who has 10x movespeed, 8x damage, permanent night vision, and an immunity to all temperature is way stronger than this. How DARE Klei ONLY give me the SAME DAMAGE BONUS AS WIGFRID, the CHARACTER WHO IS EXPLICITLY DESIGNED TO BE FOR COMBAT. Wow. WX-78 may as well be removed from the game, because this is UNPLAYABLE. How about instead of a 24% damage bonus, it was a 24,000,000% damage bonus? And maybe instead of the Auto-Grabber being a Lazy Forager, it would auto-grab some Steam Gift Cards and Klei pays me $50 an hour for playing this HORRIBLE character? 

Never said the skill tree was bad just the affinity, I really like the skill tree never said wx was trash. It just isn't pratical and I have no idea why you wrote an entire paragraph putting words in my mouth.

[KINOTAKO]

Woke up to an empty beta branch today. I was wondering what happened, but I guess this is it. nononononono

[Duds_gd]

6 hours ago, Cheggf said:

Oh no. WX only has all of the things he already had like permanently ignoring light and temperature or moving fast, and also he has super high stats with percentage reductions/increases to related things like sanity gain/drain, and also his existing circuits are way stronger, and also he got a bunch of new circuits like an AoE attack, and also he can passively scout the entire map out, and also he can teleport around everywhere, and also he can teleport items, and also he has a bunch of small perks like reviving and charging faster, and also he has a cheese drone that can kill things safely, and also he can make a bunch of copies of himself, and also he can get a passive Lazy Forager, and also he can do a few other things, and also he gets the same damage bonus as Wigfrid.

Did you see that? The same damage bonus as Wigfrid. ONLY the same damage bonus as Wigfrid? Wow. Trash character. My mod character who has 10x movespeed, 8x damage, permanent night vision, and an immunity to all temperature is way stronger than this. How DARE Klei ONLY give me the SAME DAMAGE BONUS AS WIGFRID, the CHARACTER WHO IS EXPLICITLY DESIGNED TO BE FOR COMBAT. Wow. WX-78 may as well be removed from the game, because this is UNPLAYABLE. How about instead of a 24% damage bonus, it was a 24,000,000% damage bonus? And maybe instead of the Auto-Grabber being a Lazy Forager, it would auto-grab some Steam Gift Cards and Klei pays me $50 an hour for playing this HORRIBLE character? 

 

You don’t need to be so toxic. People have the right to complain, especially when they’re not heard in a situation where they were led to believe they would be. It’s sad to see this kind of behavior that turns the community against itself, when most of the time it’s a community that helps and supports one another. Including streamers with this kind of toxic behavior, which I’ve noticed isn’t new. Anyway, it’s a shame!

About this whole WX-78 update, I hope Klei has learned to take the time needed to release a beta that’s at least somewhat well thought out in terms of where they want to go, because we’ve clearly seen that when you leave too much room, people can end up disappointed with the possibilities...

And Klei, since things are the way they are, could you at least listen to the feedback about the drones getting in the way during fights on screen? Yesterday, three of us played together, all using WX-78 with drones, and it became IMPOSSIBLE to play. I believe that limiting it to just one drone could solve the issue. Tks

[Mysterious box]

4 minutes ago, Duds_gd said:

 

You don’t need to be so toxic. People have the right to complain, especially when they’re not heard in a situation where they were led to believe they would be. It’s sad to see this kind of behavior that turns the community against itself, when most of the time it’s a community that helps and supports one another. Including streamers with this kind of toxic behavior, which I’ve noticed isn’t new. Anyway, it’s a shame!

About this whole WX-78 update, I hope Klei has learned to take the time needed to release a beta that’s at least somewhat well thought out in terms of where they want to go, because we’ve clearly seen that when you leave too much room, people can end up disappointed with the possibilities...

And Klei, since things are the way they are, could you at least listen to the feedback about the drones getting in the way during fights on screen? Yesterday, three of us played together, all using WX-78 with drones, and it became IMPOSSIBLE to play. I believe that limiting it to just one drone could solve the issue. Tks

Except they did listen just not in the exact way that was demanded of them. We make suggestions here that doesn't mean the devs have to do everything we say.

It's actually concerning that this is becoming a running theme on these forums it's fine to be disappointed that things didn't change in the way some may have wanted but it's another thing entirely for people to keep equating that to the devs just not listening.

[Duds_gd]

3 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

Except they did listen just not in the exact way that was demanded of them. We make suggestions here that doesn't mean the devs have to do everything we say.

It's actually concerning that this is becoming a running theme on these forums it's fine to be disappointed that things didn't change in the way some may have wanted but it's another thing entirely for people to keep equating that to the devs just not listening.

They listened to some things, but not many... I think the lack of clarity and communication about the direction they wanted to take was a major problem. But again, my point is that the community doesn’t need to fight among themselves and act like children.

[Mysterious box]

2 minutes ago, Duds_gd said:

They listened to some things, but not many... I think the lack of clarity and communication about the direction they wanted to take was a major problem. But again, my point is that the community doesn’t need to fight among themselves and act like children.

There was a lot of changes based on feedback though. Various lunar alignment changes based on feedback, various shadow changes based on feedback, various circuit qol like temperature circuit interface qol, a way to tell how dizzy Wx is and being able to move while spinning and that's just some of the changes.

6 minutes ago, Duds_gd said:

But again, my point is that the community doesn’t need to fight among themselves and act like children.

This is true though.

[Dinoel]

What is the point of me having to manually start gathering a resource just for the collection drones to pick up the items for me and then stop? When they are on a chassis, they work automatically, gathering the desired items. Why don't they work automatically when they are with the player, gathering items until they reach a full stack of what you have and only then stopping?

[GamePlayer42]

7 hours ago, Jussatoon said:

I expect them to openly say no at some point. 

sure, i do too, but my main argument is that putting all your hope into a whole different game made by the same company for this level of communication, when we're already not getting it, is just an easy way to be dissapointed when elsewhere releases and we start getting updates for it

communication should be the standard here before elsewhere even releases

15 hours ago, Baark0 said:

So ignoring the fact most feedback seems to be that people aren't happy with the shadow affinity, we still can't see the stats, equipment slots, or circuit slots of lunar affinity clones, despite this easily being one of the most asked for things.

My guess is klei doesn't really have the time to spend another few weeks on a beta that was meant to be finished 2 weeks ago, which I can't really argue with. Still a shame that my favourite character has pretty underwhelming affinities, and is likely going to remain that way for several years at the bare minimum. I still love the skill tree and WX is back to being my main character I play again, and I am grateful klei spent as much time working on them as they did.

 

discussed internally and they came to that conclusion. though i agree with you i dont think its because they had too little time or anything, between release of lunar affinity (april 13th, baring in mind they were working on the skill prior) and now, they had plenty of time to implement it if it was something they wanted

[Jussatoon]

34 minutes ago, GamePlayer42 said:

sure, i do too, but my main argument is that putting all your hope into a whole different game made by the same company for this level of communication, when we're already not getting it, is just an easy way to be dissapointed when elsewhere releases and we start getting updates for it

communication should be the standard here before elsewhere even releases

discussed internally and they came to that conclusion. though i agree with you i dont think its because they had too little time or anything, between release of lunar affinity (april 13th, baring in mind they were working on the skill prior) and now, they had plenty of time to implement it if it was something they wanted

You see that very response from a developer you posted? I want more of that. What's wrong with me wanting that?

[GamePlayer42]

1 minute ago, Jussatoon said:

What's wrong with me wanting that?

 

43 minutes ago, GamePlayer42 said:

sure, i do too, but my main argument is that putting all your hope into a whole different game made by the same company for this level of communication, when we're already not getting it, is just an easy way to be dissapointed when elsewhere releases and we start getting updates for it

communication should be the standard here before elsewhere even releases

 

stop tryna strawman bruh

[NNOUS]

5 hours ago, Duds_gd said:

three of us played together, all using WX-78 with drones, and it became IMPOSSIBLE to play.

Does the buffs stacks base on how many drone scan of the same target or does the buffs even stacks at all form different player?

[Duds_gd]

1 hour ago, NNOUS said:

Does the buffs stacks base on how many drone scan of the same target or does the buffs even stacks at all form different player?

Each drone buffet only their wx, so 24% buff cap for each wx

[Baark0]

5 hours ago, GamePlayer42 said:

sure, i do too, but my main argument is that putting all your hope into a whole different game made by the same company for this level of communication, when we're already not getting it, is just an easy way to be dissapointed when elsewhere releases and we start getting updates for it

communication should be the standard here before elsewhere even releases

discussed internally and they came to that conclusion. though i agree with you i dont think its because they had too little time or anything, between release of lunar affinity (april 13th, baring in mind they were working on the skill prior) and now, they had plenty of time to implement it if it was something they wanted

didn't know they actually commented on it, though this looks like a bug report post so I guess thats understandable since I only visit that section of the forums to report bugs. still not being able to access equipment and circuit slots is a big loss in qol for lunar affinity

[Dinoel]

Auto-grabbers are terrible. When held by the player, they identify items to collect based on the inventory—like the W.O.B.O.T., for example. However, instead of being fully automatic, they only activate when you start collecting manually, and that is AWFUL.

If I have one Grass in my inventory and walk past a Grass patch, it doesn't pick it up automatically; it waits for me to grab one manually and only then checks if there are other items nearby to collect. What’s the point of it being automatic only when mounted on a chassis?

To me, the logical way would be: if I have one Grass in my inventory, the auto-grabber should automatically collect 39 more and stop once the stack is full (40 Grasses, for example). If I wanted to collect more than one stack, I’d just put one Grass in multiple slots (e.g., 3 slots with 1 Grass each), and the auto-grabber would fill those 3 slots automatically for a total of 120 Grasses. Wouldn't that make much more sense?