Don’t Starve Elsewhere Character Roster?

[Mysterious box]

29 minutes ago, flamboyant wolf said:

I want Wurt to return, but instead of being a minion character her kit would focus more on the mermish/amphibian part of it all. Swimming is a thing now sooo, you know. could be something. 

I want her to return too but I think she's in a Wilba situation where it doesn't make sense for her to really show up.

[flamboyant wolf]

14 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

I want her to return too but I think she's in a Wilba situation where it doesn't make sense for her to really show up.

That's why I think if she returns, it should be less about followers and more about her nature. but you know, just daydreaming.

[Creatorofswamps]

I really want to see all the characters, and Wurt is the first in line, given the swampy, sea-like theme, the connection to The Gorge, and the strange fog that turns creatures into strange Amphibians and bushes into coral.

 

34 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

her to really show up

If analyze every little detail in the trailer, you can see that there are many things that could justify Wurt's inclusion in the game.

Edited April 9 by Creatorofswamps

[MrCrowTheBird]

My dad works on klei he said Warbucks is back

[Jakepeng99]

43 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

I want her to return too but I think she's in a Wilba situation where it doesn't make sense for her to really show up.

It makes way more sense than Wilba due to new water mechanics, the gorge like setting and the goats

28 minutes ago, Creatorofswamps said:

I really want to see all the characters, and Wurt is the first in line, given the swampy, sea-like theme, the connection to The Gorge, and the strange fog that turns creatures into strange Amphibians and bushes into coral.

 

If analyze every little detail in the trailer, you can see that there are many things that could justify Wurt's inclusion in the game.

I think the fog is related to the gnaw in the gorge.

I really want to see Wurt refreshed. She is my favourite character design and lore wise. I want new gameplay of her.

Also Mr skits makes a return in that tree image. Thats an important detail

[Creatorofswamps]

2 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

I want new gameplay of her.

I'm pretty sure that with the new design, the characters will have a new and more cohesive gameplay, considering that they mentioned a higher level of uncompromisingness.

[Jakepeng99]

17 minutes ago, Creatorofswamps said:

I'm pretty sure that with the new design, the characters will have a new and more cohesive gameplay, considering that they mentioned a higher level of uncompromisingness.

The market lacks a truly hard survival game. It would be nice.

I kinda hope just having knowledge and being able to kite doesnt make the game easy. I hope there are a lot of decisions, like “Do I gather more food or more weapons” and stuff.

[Chewabacca]

I think all the survivors who showed up in both DS & DST are safe. I'm least confident about Webber, since these islands seem much less dominated by spiders than the forests we're used to, but then again all we have is a trailer so who knows. It would be reasonable for them to avoid showing too many features that are already present in their existing games. And there is clearly a spider in the trailer, if an isolated one, so.

Of the DST-exclusive cast, I think Winona has the best chance of making it in. Her thing is base defense and tape, that's never going to be useless or clash too hard with vibes. The rest of them...

• Wurt's entire character and gameplay up till now has been rooted in her plan to build a great empire for merms and the conflict between merms and pigs, two species that don't seem to exist in Elsewhere, I don't think she's following along. 
• This is going to sound really silly, but looking at all the elevations and rivers, I'm having a hard time imagining Walter riding Woby through Elsewhere as smoothly as he does in the Constant. Maybe we could have swimming Woby? Maybe the whole "riding Woby" aspect is ditched and she's just a Chester? IDK, until we see mounts accessible to everyone I'm having a hard time imagining how he isn't either useless or unfairly good. I think the DST version of him with the skill tree is always going to be my favorite, whether or not he gets ported into this one.
• Wanda's time pieces are rooted in lore and gameplay to thulecite, which may or may not exist in Elsewhere. Whether she makes it in is IMO dependent on whether thulecite makes it in.
• Wortox would be easy to fit into the lore but I kind of doubt he'll be in the game, mostly because his role is group healer + teleportation. Group healing makes more sense in a game like DST, where there are a bunch of raid bosses, and at-will teleportation feels too easy to give a character in a game focused on exploration.

[Mysterious box]

47 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

It makes way more sense than Wilba due to new water mechanics, the gorge like setting and the goats

Nothing about that really explains why she would leave her home completely to go with the survivors unless she gets abducted her goal is to help and strengthen her people in their home unless some plot detail forces her to leave or her people to migrate this just wouldn't make sense. Much like it wouldn't make sense for Wilba to want to leave her kingdom. I'm sure she'd be sad the survivors are leaving but that's probably the extent of it.

1 hour ago, flamboyant wolf said:

That's why I think if she returns, it should be less about followers and more about her nature. but you know, just daydreaming.

The problem is merms are her nature it's her driving force that's not to say she needs to be a follower character again but what could possibly be the reason for her to continue with the survivors if not for mermkind?

[Creatorofswamps]

4 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

Nothing about that really explains why she would leave her home completely to go with the survivors unless she gets abducted her goal is to help and strengthen her people in their home unless some plot detail forces her to leave or her people to migrate this just wouldn't make sense. Much like it wouldn't make sense for Wilba to want to leave her kingdom. I'm sure she'd be sad the survivors are leaving but that's probably the extent of it.

To be fair, we don't know how the survivors got there, maybe they were forcibly transported by lightning? Shadows? Fog? We don't know for sure yet

[IanKSB91]

2 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

Nothing about that really explains why she would leave her home completely to go with the survivors unless she gets abducted her goal is to help and strengthen her people in their home unless some plot detail forces her to leave or her people to migrate this just wouldn't make sense. Much like it wouldn't make sense for Wilba to want to leave her kingdom. I'm sure she'd be sad the survivors are leaving but that's probably the extent of it.

There doesn't seem to be pigs on the trailer, so maybe with Wilba we could get access to the pigs and their matterials (the pig skin would probably be the one the vampire bats drop in Hamlet... wait, there is a vampire looking boss in this) and the same logic could apply with Wurt, getting access to materials from the normal swamp.

[Mysterious box]

1 minute ago, Creatorofswamps said:

To be fair, we don't know how the survivors got there, maybe they were forcibly transported by lightning? Shadows? Fog? We don't know for sure yet

It would be funny if the survivors were trying to get to the real world while Wurt was trying to get back to the constant though.

[wormwood123]

2 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Maybe getting stolen by scion stuck him in here?

We get here by the archive lunar portal. Scion can just be another entersnce.

Would be fun to have Wagstaff return.

This time he won’t be a hologram

Where is it stated that we get here through the archives 

[flamboyant wolf]

22 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

Nothing about that really explains why she would leave her home completely to go with the survivors unless she gets abducted her goal is to help and strengthen her people in their home unless some plot detail forces her to leave or her people to migrate this just wouldn't make sense. Much like it wouldn't make sense for Wilba to want to leave her kingdom. I'm sure she'd be sad the survivors are leaving but that's probably the extent of it.

The problem is merms are her nature it's her driving force that's not to say she needs to be a follower character again but what could possibly be the reason for her to continue with the survivors if not for mermkind?

Maybe her motivation could be to expand her horizons, for the sake of mermkind or something. Baseless Speculation. Either way, guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Mysterious box]

21 minutes ago, flamboyant wolf said:

Maybe her motivation could be to expand her horizons, for the sake of mermkind or something. Baseless Speculation. Either way, guess we'll have to wait and see.

One take i could see is her still having merms as a major part of her character but instead of merms going with you they could instead serve as merchants or mentors who teach her how to do things like break rocks with her claws. Basically she'd make npcs rather than followers as a post established merm kingdom ambassador since there seems like there could have been a time skip based on the characters new looks.

[BGB]

Maxwell is basically a protagonist together with Wilson at this point so I think they have to get him but it would be interesting how would they integrate him to the fog with his shadow magic, if shadow magic is even a thing here.

Webber is a fan favourite and we see new spider in the trailer so highly likely.

There’s a lot of marsh and goat people things here so not including Wurt would be a massive punch in the gut.

Warly, Winona and Wormwood have a bunch of cool and interesting themes and interactions that would be really fun to explore in the new context.

Wolfgang, Wickerbottom and Woodie would be as fun as any character but I don’t know if they’re relevant enough for klei to figure them out.

Wigfrid I think is soft confirmed with the spear but maybe it’s just a placeholder.

Wortox and Wanda have as easy of an excuse to be in this game as not to be with the reality hopping abilities they have, maybe after launch future additions could be a way to go.

I find Walter to be least likely to be carried over, he has some interesting ideas about him gameplay wise but I think each of them could become a stand alone and better character and narratively he doesn’t bring much with except the loose connection with Woodie that’s kinda insignificant.

I personally kinda hope Wagstaff is not gonna be here or at least not the same Wagstaff because the lunar scion thing would lose all of its impact if he’s just here with everyone else unless he would be maybe unlockable like Wes in the original game and speaking of Wes, he probably has to be in it for the sheer joke of him.

A few new characters could be cool to have but I don’t think they are crucial nor necessary.

and my biggest hope is that we’re gonna get a Maxwell dethroning repeat and Charlie is gonna become a survivor but I don’t think it’s likely to happen.

[WenericMember]

One thing to keep in mind is we don't really  now how much skill tree stuff will be given to the survivors at base. At the very least I hope willows spells and wendy's team spirit is carried over. 

Thinking about it from a character archetype perspective, we have
- Wilson for a vanilla playstyle
- Wendy for a relaxed/minion playstyle
- Willow for a more improv/high variance playstyle
- Wx for a progressive playstyle

As a result I think, Webber, Wormwood, Wigfrid and possibly Warly would all make the most sense to round out the roster at launch. 

I think Winona and Maxwell might be cut, but that's going to be to do with lore reasons. They're to important to just not be acknowledged. 

[Mysterious box]

19 minutes ago, BGB said:

Maxwell is basically a protagonist together with Wilson at this point so I think they have to get him but it would be interesting how would they integrate him to the fog with his shadow magic, if shadow magic is even a thing here.

Honestly I think it'd make narrative sense if Maxwell took a step back either by being trapped or some of the cast ending up escaping and have him replaced by Charlie to continue the cycle. His refresh already showed he was falling back into his old habits so perhaps he'll end up in a bad position due to betrayal or due to sacrificing himself to show he's truly changed.

 

22 minutes ago, BGB said:

Warly, Winona and Wormwood have a bunch of cool and interesting themes and interactions that would be really fun to explore in the new context.

With Winona I'm a bit conflicted on one hand keeping her seems like a good idea but it would also be interesting to see a reverse on the Charlie relationship with Charlie potentially working to save Maxwell and Winona.

Wormwood doesn't particularly have any reason not to be ported over but at the same time we see in the trailer crops planted directly into the ground and considering he's moving towards becoming a lunar guardian in his skill tree I think he has a high chance of not making the cut as his mechanics may just become default.

Warly seems fine to carry over as I don't see them making his gimmicks baseline.

29 minutes ago, BGB said:

Wolfgang, Wickerbottom and Woodie would be as fun as any character but I don’t know if they’re relevant enough for klei to figure them out.

Wigfrid I think is soft confirmed with the spear but maybe it’s just a placeholder.

These guys are likely grandfathered in as they are the faces of dst alongside Wilson and Willow.

31 minutes ago, BGB said:

I find Walter to be least likely to be carried over, he has some interesting ideas about him gameplay wise but I think each of them could become a stand alone and better character and narratively he doesn’t bring much with except the loose connection with Woodie that’s kinda insignificant.

I could see Walter being cut but only if they don't want to reintroduce his mechanics as I don't see what he does becoming baseline to the survivors especially with melee weapons getting different animations now.

34 minutes ago, BGB said:

There’s a lot of marsh and goat people things here so not including Wurt would be a massive punch in the gut

Wurt isn't impossible and we don't know how the cast ended up here but for.the most part she doesn't make too much sense to leave where they were unless she was forced or it's confirmed there was a timeskip and she feels her people don't need her anymore.

 

Sorry for piggybacking your comment but I've also been meaning to post my thoughts on this.

4 minutes ago, WenericMember said:

One thing to keep in mind is we don't really  now how much skill tree stuff will be given to the survivors at base. At the very least I hope willows spells and wendy's team spirit is carried over. 

Thinking about it from a character archetype perspective, we have
- Wilson for a vanilla playstyle
- Wendy for a relaxed/minion playstyle
- Willow for a more improv/high variance playstyle
- Wx for a progressive playstyle

As a result I think, Webber, Wormwood, Wigfrid and possibly Warly would all make the most sense to round out the roster at launch. 

I think Winona and Maxwell might be cut, but that's going to be to do with lore reasons. They're to important to just not be acknowledged. 

I don't think skill tree stuff will be carried over depending on the cast mostly because skill trees aren't currently finalized so I don't think the current build can account for it and while the game likely won't come out for awhile I can't see it basing it's current survivor abilities off currently unfinished concepts. There is still a possibility that we get skill trees though but if we do I really hope they rethink Willow because even all these years later her shooting fire from her hands is still weird.

[WenericMember]

4 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

I don't think skill tree stuff will be carried over depending on the cast mostly because skill trees aren't currently finalized so I don't think the current build can account for it and while the game likely won't come out for awhile I can't see it basing it's current survivor abilities off currently unfinished concepts. There is still a possibility that we get skill trees though but if we do I really hope they rethink Willow because even all these years later her shooting fire from her hands is still weird.

Considering that they apparently want this game to be more uncompromising that DST, I also doubt the skill trees will come back 1:1, however I do have hope that some QOL/balancing decisions will be maintained. 

[Mysterious box]

1 minute ago, WenericMember said:

Considering that they apparently want this game to be more uncompromising that DST, I also doubt the skill trees will come back 1:1, however I do have hope that some QOL/balancing decisions will be maintained. 

True it does seem like some stuff will become baseline like how crops are in the ground without farms and how Wilson's torch skill seems to be baseline in the trailer.

I just think they'll dial down the wackyness of the dst skill trees.

[WenericMember]

5 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

True it does seem like some stuff will become baseline like how crops are in the ground without farms and how Wilson's torch skill seems to be baseline in the trailer.

I just think they'll dial down the wackyness of the dst skill trees.

Yeah. Of the survivors I'd guess:
- Most of Wilson's basic skills will be integrated, just restricted to the lower tier versions
- Willow keeps controlled burn and maybe one or two of her pyro skills
- Wendy keeps team spirit and maybe the potion container
- WX will probably get a couple of the new circuits added to his base options

[Zeklo]

I was very much doubting any of the DLC character's returns, but yeah there's a lot pointing to Wurt viably being included.

I'm also coping though, so.

[xhyom]

4 hours ago, Creatorofswamps said:

 

I started overthinking and got scared considering the possibility of Wurt simply being replaced by a goat character, just like Wilba was replaced by Wurt, since goats are possibly going to fill that role... I hope they're the equivalent of pigs and there is merms somewhere...
I'm trembling, I'm going to vomit.

[Jakepeng99]

7 hours ago, xhyom said:

I started overthinking and got scared considering the possibility of Wurt simply being replaced by a goat character, just like Wilba was replaced by Wurt, since goats are possibly going to fill that role... I hope they're the equivalent of pigs and there is merms somewhere...
I'm trembling, I'm going to vomit.

I was thinking Wurt will be the goat instead of being replaced

[flamboyant wolf]

26 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

I was thinking Wurt will be the goat instead of being replaced

let's steal Wilba's idea and have Wurt switch forms between fish and goat, haha.