[Game Update] - 719209

[Random Guy000]

Would love it if the range limit on interracting with the map-scan-bots would show up on the map. The abyss targeting is definitely a more important change, tho

[Jakepeng99]

36 minutes ago, Random Guy000 said:

Would love it if the range limit on interracting with the map-scan-bots would show up on the map. The abyss targeting is definitely a more important change, tho

They could make it like Wortox's

[Kacpert25]

15 hours ago, JesseB_Klei said:

Rangebooster Circuit’s skill perk now boosts Bio Scanalyzer’s scanning range.

Basic Range:

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Range with 1 circuit:

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Range with 7 circuits:

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[Kvetevk]

15 hours ago, JesseB_Klei said:

Changes

• Rangebooster Circuit’s skill perk now boosts Bio Scanalyzer’s scanning range.

 

So currently it does almost nothing, the bigger scanning range is noticable with 7 rangebooster circuits but the bio scanalyzer still have the same "aggro" range and still follows the scannable creatures until it is right above them, the only use case is for scared mobs that are fast like rabbits, but by the time I scan the birds I would already have most of the circuits unlocked.
This could be easily fixed by changing how Jimmy follows creatures, without trying to stay on top of them and then waiting until they get far away.
I think that something like dragonfly could be scanned from a safe distance with enough rangeboosters, but Jimmy still have small aggro range.

Also I want to point out that currently the birds are not worth scanning, Jimmy will scare them and the only easy options I found are: ice staff and panflute.
The rangebooster circuits for theire price have almost no use without investing a skill point, plugging them also feels weird, because you need more than 1 to actually see any changes for the drones. For 1 compass I could just make robo-mapper drone to explore the map while I do other things.
Some changes I have in mind that will be able to fix these problems: make birds be easly scannable without any other imput (not scared by Jimmy); make upgraded version of rangebooster that could be scanned from buzzards and will require rangebooster and a map scroll, it would be basicly the same but with second skill for the Beta circuits it could give wx78 a bigger map reveal + maybe also more map reveal or speed for roto-mapper drone = this would make people actually want to use it even if they have client mods and the ui would look much better without having full Beta slot with 1 slot circuits
The amount of slots upgraded rangebooster would have could be from 2 to 3 but will have better effect (2 slots but have the range buff of 3 rangebooster cicruits).

These are the only changes I want to see and I hope that the rangebooster will be able to see beyond the horizons and not be left in the shadows. 

Edited March 24 by Kvetevk

[AliceShiki]

Maybe the damage reduction could be more Frontloaded to make it a bit more appealing to builds that are spreading out the circuits?

Like... 10% at first, then 15% with two circuits and 17.5% with 3 circuits? Same final result, but better if you're using different circuits.

[Captain_Rage]

17 hours ago, Mr_tree said:

Too much damage reduction will make the WX-78 OP, but too little will be weak. Maybe we can replace the damage reduction with another plan?
My suggestion is: each super circuit can increase the healing effect by 10%, and each small circuit can increase by 5%. This can increase the healing effect by up to 35%.
This may be more practical and not too strong.

It could simply have a bigger damage reduction that gets reduced (lol) after getting hit, and slowly regenerates. For example, 35% damage reduction once fully charged Falls down to (let's say) 15% after a few hits. Slooowly regenerates back up while not taking damage.

That could allow you to still tank and withstand smaller skirmishes recklessly while being unable to fully tank the big bosses in longer fights.

[Random Guy000]

6 hours ago, Kvetevk said:

Also I want to point out that currently the birds are not worth scanning, Jimmy will scare them and the only easy options I found are: ice staff and panflute.

You know you can like... Make a  bird trap? 4 silk and a seed aren't much, even earlygame

I agree with the rest of the post tho

[Braigtx5]

22 hours ago, Gytre said:

Super hardy circuit now gives 5% damage reduction per circuit max 17.5% damage reduction.

I think super hardy circuits should have a 7.5% damage reduction, equivalent to 3 hardy circuits, both in health (50) and damage reduction (2.5%).

This gives a total of 25%, the same as Wigfrid's resistance (if we include the Off By One skill).

[Kvetevk]

4 hours ago, Random Guy000 said:

You know you can like... Make a  bird trap? 4 silk and a seed aren't much, even earlygame

I agree with the rest of the post tho

I almost never craft bird traps, I will try more methods when I get time to play.

[astation]

I use one of each α circuit, and can barely feel any armor at all—this cost two skill points bro. If you’re worried about high armor，think it will break the balance, why not just make it like the acceleration circuit?

[nicholasdamian]

The cold circuit no longer creates ice without enough charge on the circut (I used a boat and paddle to test) is this an expected change?

Edited March 25 by nicholasdamian

[Soul7k]

5 hours ago, astation said:

I use one of each α circuit, and can barely feel any armor at all—this cost two skill points bro. If you’re worried about high armor，think it will break the balance, why not just make it like the acceleration circuit?

one of the initial suggestions someone else made was 15/10/5 that way you were more incentivized to take a last one different circuit, but here we are.

Edited March 25 by Soul7k

[flamboyant wolf]

12 minutes ago, Soul7k said:

one of the initial suggestions someone else made was 15/10/5 that way you were more incentivized to take a last one different circuit, but here we are.

Diminishing returns like this are a pretty good middle ground, imho. 

[Kvetevk]

18 hours ago, Random Guy000 said:

You know you can like... Make a  bird trap? 4 silk and a seed aren't much, even earlygame

Thank you for the info, I had no idea that they can be scanned while being trapped, I thought they couldn't be scanned while trapped like the rabbit.

[nicholasdamian]

Anyone know if the electric circuits gain anything from the circuit perks? 

[Weevious]

Maybe I'm the fool here, but does anyone else find it weird that the speed boosting circuits aren't alpha? Is speed not a stat that you'd always want passively plugged in, like hunger, sanity, or health? It really does feel like there's not much competition in the alpha circuits, the super hardy circuit feels like it's very obviously the best one, glands aren't exactly hard to come by and most deaths in this game happen when you're taken off guard; with 400 health you can survive being stupidly unprepared and far too bold even without armor (even more so with damage reduction but that was just nerfed into the ground lol).

Early game I scan the first spider I see and then waltz around with 5 small hardy circuits the moment I get my hands on some spider glands (I use the other two circuit slots on 1 hunger and 1 sanity circuit), I also scan and capture the first rabbit I see and get what's basically a free speed boost, and I don't think I should be able to do that! I think I should have to choose between the stat increases and the speed increase. The entire point of the speed circuit being 6 slots big is that it was a trade off back when there WAS no alpha and beta circuit separation. You get the early game speed boost, you lose out on all of your other circuits until you upgrade it. Early game, your circuits are limited by what you can actually scan, you basically just have the hardy circuit (spider, they're plentiful) processing circuit (butterfly, there's flowers near the florid postern) gastrogain circuit (hound, from the first hound wave, easy scan) and the acceleration circuit (rabbit). ALL of those are alpha circuits now, EXCEPT THE SPEED BOOST, so you basically get it for free, unless you really want to glow in the dark (fireflies is not a hard scan), which is not necessary early game, while walking around you should be picking grass and sticks.

Furthermore, I don't think there's any circuit combos that become way too strong if the speed circuit becomes an alpha circuit. None of the beta circuits are on par with the speed circuit, except possibly night vision. I think making the speed circuit alpha adds some much needed competition to the alpha circuits, and removes the monopoly it had on beta circuits. I really really like the beta circuits, I truly do, but it always feels like a waste when I could be gaining a speed boost instead. I wanna use the thermal and refrigerant circuits, but simply crafting a thermal stone like a regular character is optimal because you're giving up a speed boost. On the other hand, 150 max health (plus some damage resistance with the skill tree) is a viable choice over a speed boost, especially if you feel like tanking!

I really truly love this rework + skill tree, I just think it makes WX-78 a bit too easy. Obviously no character in this game is a free win, but I, a complete fraud, managed to survive the ruins because of my stupid amount of health circuits AND speed boosts. I actually have a LOT MORE I could say about the skill tree, but I feel like I have a greater chance of impacting the game design if I only ask for one specific change and explain why in as great of detail as I can. I think right now is a good time to test a radical change like this, since it's a beta, if I'm dead wrong the change can simply be reverted.

[Master_NiX]

This update really made me look back at Winona's tree. And honestly, the fact that WX is able to choose any of his copies on the map, makes me wish that we could click Teletransport Station as Winona to choose where to teleport with Portasol..

[YouKnowWho142]

14 hours ago, Master_NiX said:

This update really made me look back at Winona's tree. And honestly, the fact that WX is able to choose any of his copies on the map, makes me wish that we could click Teletransport Station as Winona to choose where to teleport with Portasol..

I think Winona’s teleport is strong enough as is. It also doesn’t have downsides unlike WX’s backups. It’s fine where it’s at I think

[Radicaljoe]

2 hours ago, YouKnowWho142 said:

I think Winona’s teleport is strong enough as is. It also doesn’t have downsides unlike WX’s backups. It’s fine where it’s at I think

downside of costing a ton of resources and getting lucky with Wagstaff's cache boxes (need to get 2 advanced ones before even starting to use the stations) and spending resources to keep the stations fueled as you teleport between them vs, 1 gem and a gear and waiting like 10 seconds for your inventory to get  transported over by Drew bots. very comparable downsides

[Dingle]

17 hours ago, Master_NiX said:

This update really made me look back at Winona's tree. And honestly, the fact that WX is able to choose any of his copies on the map, makes me wish that we could click Teletransport Station as Winona to choose where to teleport with Portasol..

This would probably get me to play Winona again. I really hated the RNG with her cache boxes, and then basically requiring a mod to precisely place her telepads if you wanted to set up a network of them past 2.

[WendyHater9000]

1 hour ago, Dingle said:

This would probably get me to play Winona again. I really hated the RNG with her cache boxes, and then basically requiring a mod to precisely place her telepads if you wanted to set up a network of them past 2.

1.5 luck will guarantee advanced cache box to spawn fyi

[Dingle]

50 minutes ago, WendyHater9000 said:

1.5 luck will guarantee advanced cache box to spawn fyi

Will this be easy to get after the event ends?

[WendyHater9000]

17 minutes ago, Dingle said:

Will this be easy to get after the event ends?

No idea if they gonna keep the 4 knight just like pig arena after event

[A.P.Erson]

I really hope the redigestion circuit gets a slight change if you have the omega 1 perk where you can still salvage some actual nutrition from a spoiled food you eat so you're not just wasting a spoiled honey ham for one-fifth of a cooked carrot while you're actively starving to death.

Either that or make higher quality spoiled food and "rot" (stuff like spoiled fish) give you more charges to your next nutribrick so you end up with more at least, possibly getting more than one if you eat a spoiling meaty stew or something.

[YouKnowWho142]

57 minutes ago, A.P.Erson said:

I really hope the redigestion circuit gets a slight change if you have the omega 1 perk where you can still salvage some actual nutrition from a spoiled food you eat so you're not just wasting a spoiled honey ham for one-fifth of a cooked carrot while you're actively starving to death.

that was a bug, they addressed and fixed that

Edited April 8 by YouKnowWho142