Sofy Happy Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) The Mapper Drone is a really fun and useful skill. It’s great for map exploration early on and ocean mapping later. But I can’t help but wonder: once you’ve fully explored the map, what else is the Mapper good for? As a factory-focused player, I think giving the Mapper a small area-loading effect (the same logic that makes entities active only near players) would completely change how WX is played. Factories like hound farms, spider farms, and monkey island portals only work when a player is nearby. If WX could park a Mapper Drone to keep an area loaded, WX would become one of the top long-term survival characters alongside Winona and Wortox, and we’d see way more creative Mapper-based factories. This change might raise some concerns, but they can be easily solved with proper limits: Q1: Too many loaded areas causing server lag / performance issues Limit the Mapper’s loading radius to around 14 wall units.Even two Mappers together would cover less than 1/4 the area of one player.This wouldn’t add much lag during early exploration and would encourage players to optimize and compact their factories. Deploying the Mapper is a player choice, so people can manage server load themselves.If Mappers cause lag, players can just recall them (assuming a recall function is added).This is the same logic as letting servers set a max player count based on performance. Q2. Free AFK farming making WX too OP If we give it this power, it should have tradeoffs: Add a recall function for the drone. Give the Mapper durability that requires electrical components to repair. A broken Mapper drops on the ground and stops loading the area. Edited March 23 by Sofy Happy 7 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofy Happy Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 (edited) It’s also worth mentioning that, thanks to some extremely popular mods, map exploration can be finished extremely quickly—or become completely unnecessary. 1.Over 90% of public multiplayer servers use Global Positions, which makes land exploration incredibly fast. In an experienced 8‑player world, you can locate all key land resources in just 3–4 days while farming normally. 2.The client‑side mod Eagle Eye lets players raise their camera height extremely high, revealing the entire map at once. Ocean exploration becomes completely unnecessary too. Servers don’t restrict camera height at all—you can easily change it with client‑side code or mods. That’s also why the Horizon Expandinator is often mocked by players. So giving the Mapper a purpose beyond just exploration is absolutely necessary. Edited March 23 by Sofy Happy 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1855565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Darling, you have no idea how many bug and how much resource consumption it will be. And this is clearly a crazy OP 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1855567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyOfApocalips Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Yesss we need this. But i think klei could also use this moment to add world settings to make other items possibile area loading effect- as i said in my post Rotomappers are good for it since there is natural limit soo their loading effect could be default setting-lazy dazarter could also do it with specific world settings Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1856319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) I definitely think that the mapper is the least fleshed out of the drones. It needs another use besides just mapping, and some way to retrieve them so they aren't permanent space junk. I think having them having an ocuvigil effect could cause unintended issues, mostly in summer. Instead, what if it could function similarly to Wheeler's compass on top of mapping. Let WX put an item in it and it will float towards the nearest instance of it, if possible Edited March 26 by Dr. Safety Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1856324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 3/23/2026 at 3:15 AM, Sofy Happy said: It’s also worth mentioning that, thanks to some extremely popular mods, map exploration can be finished extremely quickly—or become completely unnecessary. 1.Over 90% of public multiplayer servers use Global Positions, which makes land exploration incredibly fast. In an experienced 8‑player world, you can locate all key land resources in just 3–4 days while farming normally. 2.The client‑side mod Eagle Eye lets players raise their camera height extremely high, revealing the entire map at once. Ocean exploration becomes completely unnecessary too. Servers don’t restrict camera height at all—you can easily change it with client‑side code or mods. That’s also why the Horizon Expandinator is often mocked by players. So giving the Mapper a purpose beyond just exploration is absolutely necessary. Keep in mind those mods do not work for console players and there are people who do not wish to use those mods on pc. Rather than adapting it for mod enjoyers I think it's better off just seen as skill points saved for other things in this case. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1856326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyOfApocalips Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 23 hours ago, Dr. Safety said: I definitely think that the mapper is the least fleshed out of the drones. It needs another use besides just mapping, and some way to retrieve them so they aren't permanent space junk. I think having them having an ocuvigil effect could cause unintended issues, mostly in summer. Instead, what if it could function similarly to Wheeler's compass on top of mapping. Let WX put an item in it and it will float towards the nearest instance of it, if possible Ocuvil dont load area- this is common missconception. Also wildfires spawn "on player" soo their would be no issue. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1856480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponuem_BR Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) Acho que esse drone é para speedrunners/jogadores que priorizam velocidade, não para jogadores casuais. Edited March 27 by Ponuem_BR Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1856528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofy Happy Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 (edited) 12 hours ago, Ponuem_BR said: Acho que esse drone é para speedrunners/jogadores que priorizam velocidade, não para jogadores casuais. If we’re really going to look at it this way, I think it should be targeted at an even smaller niche: purist speedrunners who run completely mod-free. Because nowadays, in those fast-paced public speedrun lobbies where mods are allowed, many players use local mods like Eagle Eye, which lets them see the entire map right when they join the world. It’s almost become an unspoken rule. Edited March 28 by Sofy Happy Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1856665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/23/2026 at 2:15 AM, Sofy Happy said: It’s also worth mentioning that, thanks to some extremely popular mods, map exploration can be finished extremely quickly—or become completely unnecessary. 1.Over 90% of public multiplayer servers use Global Positions, which makes land exploration incredibly fast. In an experienced 8‑player world, you can locate all key land resources in just 3–4 days while farming normally. 2.The client‑side mod Eagle Eye lets players raise their camera height extremely high, revealing the entire map at once. Ocean exploration becomes completely unnecessary too. Servers don’t restrict camera height at all—you can easily change it with client‑side code or mods. That’s also why the Horizon Expandinator is often mocked by players. So giving the Mapper a purpose beyond just exploration is absolutely necessary. If you're already downloading a bunch mods to blatantly cheat why don't you just download mods to load the world? 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1856756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofy Happy Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 27 minutes ago, Cheggf said: If you're already downloading a bunch mods to blatantly cheat why don't you just download mods to load the world? Because we're talking about public servers where players don't have admin privileges. By default, servers don't restrict local cheating mods like those that affect vision or filters. Such easily accessible shortcuts will always be used by someone, and since you can't stop others, it naturally becomes the unspoken rule. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1856757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 2 hours ago, Sofy Happy said: Because we're talking about public servers where players don't have admin privileges. By default, servers don't restrict local cheating mods like those that affect vision or filters. No, you said Global Positions. 2 hours ago, Sofy Happy said: Such easily accessible shortcuts will always be used by someone, and since you can't stop others, it naturally becomes the unspoken rule. For you, maybe. Not for most people. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1856781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofy Happy Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 22 hours ago, Cheggf said: For you, maybe. Not for most people. If you want to argue about the size of this player base, you need to go by data.Just look at the subscription numbers of mods with these features, and you’ll see. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1856910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 15 minutes ago, Sofy Happy said: If you want to argue about the size of this player base, you need to go by data.Just look at the subscription numbers of mods with these features, and you’ll see. I wasn't referring to Sofy Happy when I said you. Either way the mods don't have that many subscribers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1856911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageWurtMain Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 20 hours ago, Cheggf said: Either way the mods don't have that many subscribers. Global Positions is the second-most subscribed mod of all time, with over 7 million subscribers, and although I'm not familiar with Eagle Eyes, there are many different mods for extending the camera's zoom and they are not unpopular by any means. I feel like whatever you are trying to say is not relevant or constructive to this thread Anyhow, I agree with On 3/23/2026 at 12:15 AM, Sofy Happy said: giving the Mapper a purpose beyond just exploration is absolutely necessary. I've always got the impression that DST was supposed to be a very active game. Farms feel more like exploiting a loophole than an intended mechanic. Not to say it's a bad thing, I enjoy making and designing farms a lot and could think of a lot of times I would have liked a way to load the world remotely, but it might go against the philosophy of the game to directly encourage that play style. That said, yes, even in the absence of mods, mapping takes up a very short period of the game. Mapping is already going to be easier for WX than most survivors even before considering the drone because of speed circuits, and many points of interest in the ocean can be located without sailing or with very little sailing (astral detector, message in a bottle, and moon island can often be located from the shape of the mainland). Unless a secondary use for the drone is added, it will become a skill that, if selected, is swapped out the moment the celestial portal is constructed. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1857024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 36 minutes ago, AverageWurtMain said: Global Positions is the second-most subscribed mod of all time, with over 7 million subscribers, and although I'm not familiar with Eagle Eyes, there are many different mods for extending the camera's zoom and they are not unpopular by any means. I feel like whatever you are trying to say is not relevant or constructive to this thread The only thing that isn't constructive or relevant to the thread is you guys coping about how everyone cheats and it's not just you. Zoom++ only has 82k subscribers out of the millions of players the game has. Even if everyone was as big of a cheater as you are, which isn't true, but even if it was true it still wouldn't be at all relevant. The cheats are cheating and not part of the base game experience. Just because you're choosing to download a mod doesn't mean Klei should change how things work because they're redundant to that mod. Download a mod to change WX yourself if you feel like your mods are making his things useless. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1857026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 On 3/23/2026 at 3:15 PM, Sofy Happy said: 2.The client‑side mod Eagle Eye lets players raise their camera height extremely high, revealing the entire map at once. Ocean exploration becomes completely unnecessary too. Servers don’t restrict camera height at all—you can easily change it with client‑side code or mods. That’s also why the Horizon Expandinator is often mocked by players. So giving the Mapper a purpose beyond just exploration is absolutely necessary. That's not a healthy way to take this phenomenon into account. People use these mods because they have need for the ability to explore the map. The addition of the Mapper was precisely to meet these requirements, it already has a vast potential for application. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1857030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyOfApocalips Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 3/31/2026 at 3:36 AM, Cheggf said: The only thing that isn't constructive or relevant to the thread is you guys coping about how everyone cheats and it's not just you. Zoom++ only has 82k subscribers out of the millions of players the game has. Even if everyone was as big of a cheater as you are, which isn't true, but even if it was true it still wouldn't be at all relevant. The cheats are cheating and not part of the base game experience. Just because you're choosing to download a mod doesn't mean Klei should change how things work because they're redundant to that mod. Download a mod to change WX yourself if you feel like your mods are making his things useless. I agree it isn't valid argument- still Rotomappers could use this endgame usege. Also think about poor Winona mains who needs their slave army work 24/7 when they not nearby 👉👈 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170235-can-we-give-the-mapper-drone-a-small-world-loading-radius/#findComment-1858357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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