Why forge and gorge content could really benefit everyone if it were ported and adjusted to base DST

[Seero]

So here's the story, The klei devs have spent their blood sweat and tears crafting up two very interesting limited time events in the past, for free and for a limited time. This is cool but I think it was a poor idea in the long run as these events have long since ended, all that money spent on making them is gone. So let's be extra clear here klei has already:

• Programmed the content
• Designed the whole thing
• Drawn the sprites

So the only thing left would be:

• Implementing the content
• balancing the content

I do not run a business, nor am I a programmer, so this is based purely on speculation, given the 5 factors I've listed, and how klei has already cleared three of what I speculate are the most expensive factors, wouldn't it be a win-win situation if most of the forge and gorge content was ported to DST? There's so many cool ideas there that can be implemented with the right balancing, especially in the gorge. (Forge less so, and it would probably require a bit more attention to detail to please the most players as possible. 

Otherwise these events remain as a sort of net negative on klei's behalf no? They're nearly complete games within themselves and their content has practically gone to waste, sure there are mods that add it back in but I don't think that covers the losses, especially since people do not buy DST to just play the forge and gorge mod (How would they even hear of it? and who would they play it with?). Adding this content and balancing it to fit within base DST could make everyone happy. Again it's speculation, it really depends on those final two factors, and if the cost of them doesn't outweigh the already completed factors (coding, design art) They're also already animated. Characters already have quotes for them, although they most likely need to be changed, which shouldn't add too much to the process right?

The way I see it, this is just significantly cheaper and opens up a lot of potential and can give players some very very strong updates.

I encourage you to think about this with an open mind and use your imagination, I can predict how maybe some forge weapon side abilities may be too much, but please try to think it out, and try to ponder the cool things and what could be possible with this. 

 

[Mike23Ua]

If they re-did the forge I would also want them to add a “boss rush” mode, a lot of the games I play have these, they allow players to practice boss fights without having to play the rest of the game to reach those boss fights.

Trinity Fusion, BlazBlue Entropy Effect X, Sonic Origins, etc.. I feel like that is one of the MAJOR things DST is truly missing.. and it the way I would personally add it to the game would be to spawn the player into each scenario with the developers minimum intended weapons, armors etc. 
Boss Rush seems like something that would be covered by a Battle Arena style mode, and correct me if I’m wrong since Xbox players never actually got to PLAY IT.. that’s what this mode was, right?

[Well-met]

None of those things would fit base dst, however what klei should do is release the client for forge and gorge so anyone can host it.

[gaymime]

5 hours ago, Well-met said:

None of those things would fit base dst, however what klei should do is release the client for forge and gorge so anyone can host it.

i imagine that could be a legal tangle to work out but i would be lying if i said i didnt perk up just a bit at the idea of it. i am often tempted by the gorge servers when they pop up and would be super motivated if a klei ambassador felt inclined to host or something

[Seero]

7 hours ago, Well-met said:

None of those things would fit base dst

im sure there's room for it as DST has changed a lot in the last few years

Also to you and the people who liked this post, refer to this again please. 

9 hours ago, Seero said:

I encourage you to think about this with an open mind and use your imagination, I can predict how maybe some forge weapon side abilities may be too much, but please try to think it out, and try to ponder the cool things and what could be possible with this. 

 

[Edible Coal]

they can make some sort of dungeon mode where you can adventure in from the cave and loot back some sick weapon or gears that you noramlly cant get

 

[Well-met]

8 hours ago, Seero said:

im sure there's room for it as DST has changed a lot in the last few years

Also to you and the people who liked this post, refer to this again please. 

 

Even if it did make sense, you're forgetting that base DST is full of forge skins that already represent their own items

[Jakepeng99]

18 hours ago, Seero said:

So here's the story, The klei devs have spent their blood sweat and tears crafting up two very interesting limited time events in the past, for free and for a limited time. This is cool but I think it was a poor idea in the long run as these events have long since ended, all that money spent on making them is gone. So let's be extra clear here klei has already:

• Programmed the content
• Designed the whole thing
• Drawn the sprites

So the only thing left would be:

• Implementing the content
• balancing the content

I do not run a business, nor am I a programmer, so this is based purely on speculation, given the 5 factors I've listed, and how klei has already cleared three of what I speculate are the most expensive factors, wouldn't it be a win-win situation if most of the forge and gorge content was ported to DST? There's so many cool ideas there that can be implemented with the right balancing, especially in the gorge. (Forge less so, and it would probably require a bit more attention to detail to please the most players as possible. 

Otherwise these events remain as a sort of net negative on klei's behalf no? They're nearly complete games within themselves and their content has practically gone to waste, sure there are mods that add it back in but I don't think that covers the losses, especially since people do not buy DST to just play the forge and gorge mod (How would they even hear of it? and who would they play it with?). Adding this content and balancing it to fit within base DST could make everyone happy. Again it's speculation, it really depends on those final two factors, and if the cost of them doesn't outweigh the already completed factors (coding, design art) They're also already animated. Characters already have quotes for them, although they most likely need to be changed, which shouldn't add too much to the process right?

The way I see it, this is just significantly cheaper and opens up a lot of potential and can give players some very very strong updates.

I encourage you to think about this with an open mind and use your imagination, I can predict how maybe some forge weapon side abilities may be too much, but please try to think it out, and try to ponder the cool things and what could be possible with this. 

 

Sorry but I wouldn’t really like this, I’d rather they just add an option to play forge when you create a world. Would feel really weird to force forge and gorge content into the game. Feels too moddy.

They said they can’t re run it because the server costs, but I don’t get why it isn’t just an option like Wilderness and Endless since it works fine in mods.

Maybe just rework the events to be not limited time, and just add a few content updates every so often or add some new skins in it. 

Maybe Im just dumb and don’t know how it works

[goblinball]

I never played forge so I could be wrong but I believe wigfrid’s elding spear’s dash is a heavily modified version of the pith pike from forge. Idk about you but the elding spear is pretty fun!

I think more asset re use from the forge and gorge like this could be cool but you’d have to heavily modify it like what they did for the elding spear. Maybe re use the animation skeletons for the gorge enemies but change the actual art. Stuff like that. I think copy and pasting all of the forge with only minor alterations is a bad idea.

You have to be careful with asset reuse.

[Nikki Darks]

Idk why they don't at least port the Gorge plants and dishes, maybe the rock crabs as well? Seems easy to integrate and port over into DST.