Astrahanolog Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Good afternoon, I wanted to know what happened to the updates related to the skill tree?In terms of the fact that they used to come out quite often, maybe in 4+ months, but now they are not visible at all.Still waiting for the tree on Wx and Wanda 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouKnowWho142 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I’m pretty sure they’re nervous after the last batch of skill trees, plus they’re trying to balance finishing up From Beyond on top of that. By the way things are looking I’m sure we’ll get a skill tree beta either this month or early next month 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Darks Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 hours ago, Astrahanolog said: Good afternoon, I wanted to know what happened to the updates related to the skill tree?In terms of the fact that they used to come out quite often, maybe in 4+ months, but now they are not visible at all.Still waiting for the tree on Wx and Wanda I think Klei put skill trees on pause in order to finally finish Rift content. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapchrap Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 We should be seeing a beta with skill trees in the middle of this month when the intermission drops. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aini2086 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 我记得他们一开始说设计技能树，后来有一次他们又说先完成裂隙内容，敬请下周的预告吧 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruvimaster Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Almost 10 years of DST. They're cooking something special. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Cruvimaster said: Almost 10 years of DST. They're cooking something special. SKILL TREE 3 !!!!!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Giggio Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 After the annoyance and honestly gross behavior community showed after last skill tree that's what we gain. I'm tired of waiting but I can't deny they did a very reasonable choice. 6 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ev1l Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 What happened during the last skill tree? I wasn't keeping up with the game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkShark Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ev1l said: What happened during the last skill tree? I wasn't keeping up with the game To keep it short there was a lot of heat surrounding Wendy's skill tree balance and the visuals behind it. It started a lot negativity and hate towards specific klei employees and honestly just brought out a lot of nasty people (i wanna hope that these people were just trolls fueling an already burning fire or kids) it was less about feedback and more about demands. Edited March 2 by PunkShark 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seero Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 minute ago, PunkShark said: To keep it short there was a lot of heat surrounding Wendy's skill tree balance and the visuals behind it. It started a lot negativity and hate towards specific klei employees and honestly just brought out a lot of nasty people (i wanna hope that these people were just trolls fueling an already burning fire or kids) really? I haven't played much of wendy's skill tree but it doesn't seem bad.. none of the skill trees seem really bad imo i quite like them, they're very interesting and give previously not really fun characters a chance to stand with the top ones (WILLOW) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkShark Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 3 minutes ago, Seero said: really? I haven't played much of wendy's skill tree but it doesn't seem bad.. none of the skill trees seem really bad imo i quite like them, they're very interesting and give previously not really fun characters a chance to stand with the top ones (WILLOW) That's the thing, it was never really bad, the first rendition was not great but even after all the balancing changes and whatnot it's still a fine skill tree for a pretty strong character. But the "feedback" even after that was ridiculous. It was probably the most negative space that the forum had been in. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ev1l Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 44 minutes ago, PunkShark said: To keep it short there was a lot of heat surrounding Wendy's skill tree balance and the visuals behind it. It started a lot negativity and hate towards specific klei employees and honestly just brought out a lot of nasty people (i wanna hope that these people were just trolls fueling an already burning fire or kids) it was less about feedback and more about demands. Really? I find Wendy's skill tree to be only behind Wortox on the visual aspect. The Ouija board just makes so much sense for her. Idk what to say about the actual skills but they always seemed to be alr. Edited March 2 by Ev1l Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brednas7 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 hours ago, Seero said: really? I haven't played much of wendy's skill tree but it doesn't seem bad.. none of the skill trees seem really bad imo i quite like them, they're very interesting and give previously not really fun characters a chance to stand with the top ones (WILLOW) The more i play with Wendy's skill tree, the more the flaws start to bother me. Spoiler Blessed Sisturn III is inconsistent and evil petals only drain sanity, which evil flowers already can do better. Grave Beautification evil petals got barely some use outside of making more graves and nightmare fuel. Strong Brew lacks potions that you want to use day to day on Abigail outside of maybe Nightshade Nostrum. Mourning Glory III cost way to much health if you want to use it for a friend, 40 hp + 40 hp to built a second one to have the first one unattune + 40 hp for said friend to attune to it. Wraith's Wreath potion effects of Revenant Restorative and Cure-all needs Strong Brew or Extra Yield to be worth it and shield potions effect go after armor, which do less the better you armor is and goes into cooldown after taking any damage from an attack. Shadow Sisterhood III too grindy to ever use to most fights (just 25 planar damage and 5 planar defense for 8sec per murder), lacks regular defense to compete with Gestalt Abigail, low max duration (2min 40sec) and doesn't even pause the timer when Abigail is unsummoned to heal. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Giggio Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 20 hours ago, Ev1l said: What happened during the last skill tree? I wasn't keeping up with the game Self entitled backlash over Wendy from a lot of places. People that never hit the forum was here wanting to say how it should be done and being very rude about it. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 On 3/1/2026 at 8:02 PM, Nikki Darks said: I think Klei put skill trees on pause in order to finally finish Rift content. That's what I thought was happening, but then people were mentioning that they said the next update would be skill trees. I hope they finish the rift content soon. The intermission short about Charlie came out 7 months ago. It seemed to be pointing at some really cool stuff. As far as the whole issue regarding the last skill tree, there was a group of people who definitely acted way out of line. That being said, I think that the way character updates are is also partially to blame. If there are any issues involving a character and recently released content, it could be years until that is addressed. They don't like to change much of anything about characters outside of big updates, where that is the main focus. Look at Woodie for example. Part of his skill tree addresses the horrible experience it is to do the lunar questline as him. There was a good 2 years in between that questline being added and him getting his skill tree which made it somewhat manageable. Again, some folks acted way out of line and really made it hard for any real feedback to take place. I do understand the frustration they felt though, because if a character's skill tree doesn't fix absolutely every issue with them, then the untouched issues will remain for several years to come. The problem was that a downside =/= an issue with the character's design. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouKnowWho142 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dr. Safety said: That's what I thought was happening, but then people were mentioning that they said the next update would be skill trees. I hope they finish the rift content soon. The intermission short about Charlie came out 7 months ago. It seemed to be pointing at some really cool stuff. This is what we get when Klei chooses to focus on adding a new cave biome (that doesn't do anything to fix the awful cave layout to begin with) and a niche little puzzle system linked to yet another cave biome that most people will not interact with more than once if at all (that may or may not be related to future shadow rift content) instead of actually focusing on the rift content that has been going on for years now that needs a proper conclusion sooner than later. It is now 2 years in a row and 2 updates in a row that focuses on the caves over the shadow rifts while also not fixing the core issues of either, and now shadow rifts have gotten basically nothing since their initial update. Still better than lunar rifts somehow lololol Edited March 4 by YouKnowWho142 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1852993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naifxoxo Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 3/2/2026 at 4:02 AM, Nikki Darks said: I think Klei put skill trees on pause in order to finally finish Rift content. so they gave the most broken characters skilltree and when we were about to get the skilltrees for the characters who actually need a rework and skilltree they decided to stop now On 3/2/2026 at 4:24 PM, Mr Giggio said: After the annoyance and honestly gross behavior community showed after last skill tree that's what we gain. I'm tired of waiting but I can't deny they did a very reasonable choice. u cant blame them, most of the skilltrees r mid and looks like it made by someone who dosnt even play the game On 3/2/2026 at 6:22 PM, PunkShark said: To keep it short there was a lot of heat surrounding Wendy's skill tree balance and the visuals behind it. It started a lot negativity and hate towards specific klei employees and honestly just brought out a lot of nasty people (i wanna hope that these people were just trolls fueling an already burning fire or kids) it was less about feedback and more about demands. again u cant blame them, if ur fav character gets a lame and Disappointing skillltree u wont be happy about it , even tho i dont play wendy it still triggers me til this day how bad is her skilltree , looks like it made by someone who dosnt know anything about the game On 3/2/2026 at 6:25 PM, Seero said: really? I haven't played much of wendy's skill tree but it doesn't seem bad.. none of the skill trees seem really bad imo i quite like them, they're very interesting and give previously not really fun characters a chance to stand with the top ones (WILLOW) the issue is they made willow which gave us hope that other characters gonna have an interesting skills js like her , but they decided to stop being creative, 15 hours ago, YouKnowWho142 said: This is what we get when Klei chooses to focus on adding a new cave biome (that doesn't do anything to fix the awful cave layout to begin with) and a niche little puzzle system linked to yet another cave biome that most people will not interact with more than once if at all (that may or may not be related to future shadow rift content) instead of actually focusing on the rift content that has been going on for years now that needs a proper conclusion sooner than later. It is now 2 years in a row and 2 updates in a row that focuses on the caves over the shadow rifts while also not fixing the core issues of either, and now shadow rifts have gotten basically nothing since their initial update. Still better than lunar rifts somehow lololol ikr, they made teas , hot ponds , nee useless cave biome that nobody cares abt , not only that they still nerfed the rock trees , u wanna have fun with the new biome ? nah we nerf it no fun for u , if we had skilltrees and more early/mid game stuff instead of these tea updates and hot ponds we wouldhv been fine thats why we js need skilltrees now 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1853037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyoton123 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 16 hours ago, YouKnowWho142 said: This is what we get when Klei chooses to focus on adding a new cave biome (that doesn't do anything to fix the awful cave layout to begin with) and a niche little puzzle system linked to yet another cave biome that most people will not interact with more than once if at all (that may or may not be related to future shadow rift content) instead of actually focusing on the rift content that has been going on for years now that needs a proper conclusion sooner than later. Yeah one of the few times i have been infuriated in DST was doing the sanctum for the first time the other day and realizing what a waste of time it was. That was time not well spent by them or me. On 3/2/2026 at 11:29 AM, brednas7 said: The more i play with Wendy's skill tree, the more the flaws start to bother me. The irony about sisturn 3 is that this was largely the result of player input. I would much rather have had the other ideas people were kicking around. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1853043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 what if in a big surprise we get both a skill tree and a rift at the same time? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1853072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Giggio Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 17 hours ago, Naifxoxo said: u cant blame them, most of the skilltrees r mid and looks like it made by someone who dosnt even play the game Very good example. You quoting people all over the place over a game that is mad cheap made from an indie company that has a lot of replayability, good art and depth when companies like Bethesda exists. And still, even if you do have a point which sometimes is the case, beta test lasts for a long time enough to take critiques WHEN ITS CONSTRUCTIVE and be kind towards it will be ways way more effective than demanding. Thanks for showing up, it gets to illustrate the picture better. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1853108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 19 hours ago, Naifxoxo said: u cant blame them, again u cant blame them, No, I think we can very much blame people for being rude or even outright hostile to game devs over not liking an update. 6 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1853118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 21 hours ago, Naifxoxo said: u cant blame them, most of the skilltrees r mid and looks like it made by someone who dosnt even play the game No I'm pretty sure you can blame them if they make threats about people's families over not liking the skill tree they got. I think that invokes plenty of blame. That being said I still don't think there's much wrong with Wendy's skill tree there's a few tweaks I'd personally make if it were up to me but that's far better than how I feel Wilson and Wolfgang eneded up. Also really not a fan of how they handled Woodie's were forms for the tree but what's done is done. 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1853127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naifxoxo Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 5 hours ago, Mr Giggio said: Very good example. You quoting people all over the place over a game that is mad cheap made from an indie company that has a lot of replayability, good art and depth when companies like Bethesda exists. And still, even if you do have a point which sometimes is the case, beta test lasts for a long time enough to take critiques WHEN ITS CONSTRUCTIVE and be kind towards it will be ways way more effective than demanding. Thanks for showing up, it gets to illustrate the picture better. its not indie anymore , used to be an indie but now is owned by tencent, which is a big company 5 hours ago, Mr Giggio said: Very good example. You quoting people all over the place over a game that is mad cheap made from an indie company that has a lot of replayability, good art and depth when companies like Bethesda exists. And still, even if you do have a point which sometimes is the case, beta test lasts for a long time enough to take critiques WHEN ITS CONSTRUCTIVE and be kind towards it will be ways way more effective than demanding. Thanks for showing up, it gets to illustrate the picture better. like wendy skilltree , seeing willow gives u hope that ur character now has a chance to be even more fun and unique, but u get disappointed after looking at wendy skilltree , if u only play wendy and its ur fav character, having these weak skilltrees is lame and Disappointing, wendy has so much potential but klei decided to not do anything for her,, all characters deserve to be fun and have a worthy skilltree. the critiques comes from ppl who rlly love the game so it just shows how much they love it , its not always a bad thing , im pretty sure klei did it on purpose because theres noway they rlly thought that wendy skilltree is perfect , so what happened is expected, they did it on purpose to make her *balanced* , which dosnt make sense 3 hours ago, flamboyant wolf said: No, I think we can very much blame people for being rude or even outright hostile to game devs over not liking an update. thats how it works , u cant control everyone , its expected : u do something bad = theres a side effect ____ especially in a game that dosnt constantly fix and rework characters , which means if u get a bad skilltree that dosnt change or make the character worth playing ur stuck forever even if its ur fav character, we have so many items that r so bad and weak , but klei dosnt even change them , if they rlly listen to the community and make changes constantly to characters and items i would totally agree with u , but for now its like our only hope is being taking from us , thats what happened to wendy 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1853135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormwood123 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 3/3/2026 at 10:21 AM, Mr Giggio said: Self entitled backlash over Wendy from a lot of places. People that never hit the forum was here wanting to say how it should be done and being very rude about it. well i personally think the Wendy skill tree upset was perfectly warranted its not great. Characters are the spine of this game and they should all be fun and rewarding to play. Now the way people carried this out was certainly bad mind you and i don't condone it at all. but the betas exist for feedback and people certainly fedback 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169933-the-skill-tree/#findComment-1853142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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