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2 hours ago, kiwikenobi said:

I agree that it must be very clearly spelled out somewhere that we're somehow not looking at or understanding yet. The complexity of the lock demands an extremely precise solution. Personally, I'm waiting to get this additional information that's supposed to be added with an update, whenever that winds up happening. There's obviously something we're all missing. We need more information.

I genuinely think we all just focused on puzzle being much more difficult than it really could be, and missed something far easier. Like,im not judging anyone here, and they are doing better job than i,who just reads, comments and tries basic things, But -  space between panels shows some musical sound form, the clue is from Wagstaff chord spectrogram or menu music spectrogram... I really think everyone just dived into more complicated stuff, than it could be, trying to find clues in those various spectograms is what feels far complicated, and Nome saying he was waiting everyone to solve this in hour or so,gives clue that it should be much easier for this fandom to solve it, than what they are trying now. I DONT blame/judge anyone, its just feels we took wrong way to solve this.

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2 hours ago, Ke_Soul said:

I genuinely think we all just focused on puzzle being much more difficult than it really could be, and missed something far easier. Like,im not judging anyone here, and they are doing better job than i,who just reads, comments and tries basic things, But -  space between panels shows some musical sound form, the clue is from Wagstaff chord spectrogram or menu music spectrogram... I really think everyone just dived into more complicated stuff, than it could be, trying to find clues in those various spectograms is what feels far complicated, and Nome saying he was waiting everyone to solve this in hour or so,gives clue that it should be much easier for this fandom to solve it, than what they are trying now. I DONT blame/judge anyone, its just feels we took wrong way to solve this.

I can't agree more

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I wake up tday and was looking at the html code of the sound puzzle again. I notice that it has an image covering the marker in the tick level, but behind it, it has the same image, it just works to cover the "bronze" like marker. But this makes possible having 21 tick levels instead of 20 (or tempo, I don't know the right music term).

 

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So what do we think of George T Witherstone financially backing Voxola Radio? No way this guy is on the up and up.

In Wes's short, he is seen almost getting abducted by the shadows. Then we see what looks like his rundown place of residence.

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Where did he get a photo posing with a shadow Watcher? How does this guy go onto deposit $1,2750 (equal to $206,627 in today's purchasing power) into Wagstaff's new factory? His only known source of incoming is loaning stage props to the likes of this guy:

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How did Maxwell find the Codex Umbra anyway?

 

1 hour ago, Ridley said:

So what do we think of George T Witherstone financially backing Voxola Radio? No way this guy is on the up and up.

In Wes's short, he is seen almost getting abducted by the shadows. Then we see what looks like his rundown place of residence.

Where did he get a photo posing with a shadow Watcher? How does this guy go onto deposit $1,2750 (equal to $206,627 in today's purchasing power) into Wagstaff's new factory? His only known source of incoming is loaning stage props to the likes of this guy:

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How did Maxwell find the Codex Umbra anyway?

 

This is all just my own speculation, but I assumed that Witherstone was on a vacation/business trip in France, with his daughter, when Wes got taken in his place, so that would have been a hotel room. Maxwell was already messing with him up to that point if he was about to kidnap him to the Constant--he might have put the picture of the shadow in his hotel room, or it might have just seeped in as a side effect. And normally Witherstone's in America making loans to people and hiring toughs to hassle people who don't pay on time. I don't know how much money people who make loans normally get, but it's very possible he had a whole huge network of loans and perhaps shadier deals, and was extremely wealthy. And able to vacation in France as a result, perhaps. Or maybe he was on the run, himself, after doing one too many shady deals, which is why the room has peeling wallpaper and might be kind of cheap--he's trying to lie low.

And I thought the implication was that William Carter found the Codex when he woke up after the train wreck, since his postcard talking about discovering it was together with the train ticket. That it just appeared because of that incident, perhaps in response to his near-death experience. We can see the Codex working immediately after the train wreck in Wolfgang's short. But it's also entirely possible he found it before then, some other way. Just I connected the two events because of the image with the ticket and the postcard, plus the message on the postcard mentioning both the crash and the Codex.

Just purely my own interpretation and interpolation. Maybe there's another explanation with more evidence that I don't know about. But since you asked, those are my ideas.

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51 minutes ago, kiwikenobi said:

This is all just my own speculation, but I assumed that Witherstone was on a vacation/business trip in France, with his daughter, when Wes got taken in his place, so that would have been a hotel room. Maxwell was already messing with him up to that point if he was about to kidnap him to the Constant--he might have put the picture of the shadow in his hotel room, or it might have just seeped in as a side effect.

Possibly. I just thought it was a residence because people don't normally hang pictures in a hotel room. I forgot this probably takes place after Maxwell is on the throne, so maybe the huge investment in Voxola bankrupted Witherstone. (Since time isn't linear in the constant, we don't know if Maxwell can send shadow hands into the past to change history or not)

 

52 minutes ago, kiwikenobi said:

And I thought the implication was that William Carter found the Codex when he woke up after the train wreck, since his postcard talking about discovering it was together with the train ticket. That it just appeared because of that incident, perhaps in response to his near-death experience. We can see the Codex working immediately after the train wreck in Wolfgang's short. But it's also entirely possible he found it before then, some other way. Just I connected the two events because of the image with the ticket and the postcard, plus the message on the postcard mentioning both the crash and the Codex.

I interpreted it that he was studying the book on the train and only tried casting a spell when calamity struck. What is stranger to me is that the book has a big red "M" on it before William Carter takes the stage name Maxwell. I can only think this is the magic Charlie says he stole Metheus, but who on earth would have the ability to reach the Shadow Queen to even get the Codex Umbra? Wagstaff doesn't discover portal travel until after Maxwell is abducted.

3 minutes ago, Ridley said:

I just thought it was a residence because people don't normally hang pictures in a hotel room.

Hotels put their own paintings in their rooms just as a decoration. And this one might have started normal but been corrupted by the shadows. And I meant that Maxwell put it there, not Witherstone, in case the way I said that was confusing.

 

4 minutes ago, Ridley said:

What is stranger to me is that the book has a big red "M" on it before William Carter takes the stage name Maxwell.

Maybe it's a W.

2 minutes ago, kiwikenobi said:

Hotels put their own paintings in their rooms just as a decoration. And this one might have started normal but been corrupted by the shadows. And I meant that Maxwell put it there, not Witherstone, in case the way I said that was confusing.

I see. That could be.

 

2 minutes ago, kiwikenobi said:

Maybe it's a W.

Maxwell summoning beings from beyond our mortal realm because he reads mysterious glyphs upside down gives this image a hopelessly smug aura. I love it.

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I mean, he did say he had to decode it. Sounds like it wasn't written in any normal human language. Maybe he decoded it upside-down. Learned the runes or symbols or whatever's written there upside-down. Though then that would imply that the W/M isn't a W or M at all, but a magical symbol that coincidentally looks like one. So it might not be upside-down after all. ^o^;>

Before I get too far off-topic, do we have an estimated date for the update that will add more information to the comic?

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has anyone noticed that the bottom right part of this area in the center of the clock has a different color? also the line between them, plus the separation as 2 parts AND the screwed part might actually mean something.

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could just be design coincidences but I think they look very suspicious.

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1 hour ago, astareus said:

has anyone noticed that the bottom right part of this area in the center of the clock has a different color? also the line between them, plus the separation as 2 parts AND the screwed part might actually mean something.

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could just be design coincidences but I think they look very suspicious.

this stuff looks like that old-retro phones, when u first need to roll the numbers, then click something to call. I suppose combined with some clue, we can rotate and dial something and the door will open, its just switch and those up/down sides what's confuses me off.

So basically as some people have mentioned before in this thread; We can hear 10 "ha" sounds from a choir in the background of wagstaff's office song. There's also something that I hear that really clearly resembles a backwards sound/inverted music.

 

The inverted sounds start at 00:10.

Has anyone tried to identify the notes in the choir sounds on this song and put it in the music lock?

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This part of the mechanism looks a little bit like Wagstaff's glasses texture. Also his glasses appear to be either reflective (white keys) or see-through, showing his eyes (black keys).

We can also see, let's say, glasses blueprint on his desk.

Could this be a clue?

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EDIT: Also, could someone try using the sounds used in C'est La Vie when Wes is abducted (1:59-2:03)?

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