How would the shadow side compete with celestial jewels?

[Edible Coal]

celestial jewels inserted into crown essentially make the crown both a bone armor (immune to any sanity effects) and crown ( dps booster)

how would the shadow side in next update compete with such a strong tool?

there are 4 things that player desire the most in this game, Speed, damage, inventory space, health

So is possible that the shadow side can drop two item that give speed and inventory space separately

 

[mkemal23]

Maybe upgraded Vortex cloak

[Larael]

Idk about a speed one cus the shadow side already has 2 speed items (mag it's locked on the ruins which is obviously shadow and the lazy explorer ruins too).

Also at the state of the game (endgame or really late game) many had a better way to move. A set of teleports with Winona or wanda, a beefalo or even the telelocator focus for one trip, so options for mobility isn't a big deal from my perspective.

Inventory space is a good one maybe something that allows us to have 4 building wraps in one inventory slot or something like that idk. But inventory wise should be the play 

[GrapeVruit]

7 minutes ago, mkemal23 said:

Maybe upgraded Vortex cloak

I'd absolutely be down for something like that.

[Erathia]

I dream of an advanced bone armor, with slots for items like in a backpack. Besides, I would like to finally see an endgame teleport, we already have so many characters who can teleport cheaply that giving other survivalists such a possibility in the late game would be fine.

[GrapeVruit]

6 minutes ago, Erathia said:

I dream of an advanced bone armor, with slots for items like in a backpack. Besides, I would like to finally see an endgame teleport, we already have so many characters who can teleport cheaply that giving other survivalists such a possibility in the late game would be fine.

That's basically the vortex cloak from Hamlet. 

[Thieverpedia]

This is actually something I was going to ask about when I came here. From the looks of things, the alignments are mostly biased towards Lunar over Shadow. Not only is there much more Lunar content due to it being on the surface, it also has access to that infinite light crown, and a few character alignments are clearly much better on their Lunar side. My personal thoughts, however, was how strange it is to only have one aligned light-giving headpiece. I'd be down for the Vortex Cloak, but having a shadow-themed version of the crown could finally balance things out. Something like a Dread Halo to rapidly drain sanity, remove shadow aggression, and provide light at that point. Something to face off against enlightenment.

But in the end, I feel like if we get a Vortex Cloak or the likes, shadow-aligned players should be able to take advantage of it better. This could also be done on the opposite side by giving Lunar-aligned characters more of a benefit for using the Enlightened Crown.

[ShakerGER]

I love the vortex cloak in Hamlet. I don't mind that it is hard to refuel. Other than the vortex cloak I usually don't wear backpacks because chest slot things are always strongest.

[Dr. Safety]

Imagine if the upgraded vortex cloak gave no stats on its own, but gave the user a backpack slot, amulet slot, armor slot, and insulation slot just like those "QoL" server mods.

[AuRuS]

I don't think vortex cloak thingy is an answer, in the lategame you are going to either use krampus sack or whatever that item might be ONLY if it gives you more inv space, however giving it more space would make the sack obsolete so I think they should'nt go this way.

That leaves us with a movement speed item (which is not really needed because of teleports) or a dmg buff since hp is pretty much sorted at this point of the game already - I really don't think we could get anything much better than what we already have - maybe some kind of planar dmg reducing night cloak?

That gave me a good itea, what if the shadow boss dropped something like true pure horror that lets you choose what to do with it? You could either infinitely refuel nightmare fuel using items with it OR use it to infuse shadow aligned armor/weapons and give them extra stats, like making void robes defend 90% + planar or buffing the dmg of nightmare swords (makes them repairable) or the reaper. I think it's a neat idea since it would be good to farm, just like celestial champion if you want more than just one infused item, it should also drop something extra, similarly to AFW

[Maxil20]

6 minutes ago, AuRuS said:

I don't think vortex cloak thingy is an answer, in the lategame you are going to either use krampus sack or whatever that item might be ONLY if it gives you more inv space, however giving it more space would make the sack obsolete so I think they should'nt go this way.

Given that it is literally the theoretically endgame shadow item, I don’t think there would be a serious issue with the krampus sack becoming outclassed compared to an item you can get much later and usually will stay for a good chunk of time. Alternatively, the shadow item could upgrade the krampus sack itself into the cloak, retaining the krampus sack’s value while giving it an upgrade.

[AuRuS]

10 minutes ago, Maxil20 said:

Given that it is literally the theoretically endgame shadow item, I don’t think there would be a serious issue with the krampus sack becoming outclassed compared to an item you can get much later and usually will stay for a good chunk of time. Alternatively, the shadow item could upgrade the krampus sack itself into the cloak, retaining the krampus sack’s value while giving it an upgrade.

Well I think that no matter what they do to the final boss of shadow side, it is gonna be rushable within 1 year. I think that if it straight up dropped somehting like +2 slots krampus sack with some kind of shadow twist to it, it would be pretty underwhelming since IMO getting a sack is way harder and just feels good when it finally drops even while using a special farm for it, I think they shouldn't rob players of that feeling.

Actually the shadow infusing item that it would drop really becomes a neat idea it seems since they could just give it a ton of different uses and many things could gain new effects. Of course, this sounds like a ton of work and I assume it could even prove to be borderline impossible to code into the mess they already have but I'm pretty sure that it would be a fitting reward for finishing the shadow side. Lunar gives you permament full sanity, gestalts and more dmg (perhaps they could make it so that jewel in the mushlight provides larger radius of light/negates temperature effects)  and shadow side would be more on straight up empowering the player and his equipment - both worth repeating many times for megabasers and worth rushing for speedrunners, truly a perfect ending to the updates line