Klei please add a way to spawn bearger before day 21.

[Swiyss]

For speedrunners, it really is not viable to wait hours doing mostly nothing just to fight this boss as a run. Please take us in consideration as well, making this fight available as soon as possible since we need the 3 host of horror bosses.

 

[gaymime]

mmm, doesnt intentionally accommodating speedrunners sorta invalidate the very concept of speedrunning? it just becomes a faster version of the walkthrough

[Valase]

They could just add a "bearger spawns in the first autumn" button on the world create. But I don't think that speed runners would even bother with it due whatever rules they use.

23 minutes ago, AliceShiki said:

I would like to be able to get Hibearnation Vest in the 1st Autumn without needing to change world settings, but that's about it.

I like to use the polar backpack, that extra spoilage time is so good.

[Milordo]

31 minutes ago, AliceShiki said:

Inb4 Guile appears here and says that DST's design absolutely does not need to take speedrunners into account and basically everyone will agree with him, because... Yeah, it really doesn't.

I would like to be able to get Hibearnation Vest in the 1st Autumn without needing to change world settings, but that's about it.

I want to add, it's not also because Guile have said it, it's common logic. When you design a videogame, unless being fast as hell is the focal point (sonic, pizza tower, ecc..) speedrunners or rushers in the case of Don't Starve, should not influence or dictate changes that arrange them. It's why I still deeply reflect to this day if the changes to Pearl's house were correct or that was a mistake of the community pushed by the rushers. 

[Keknutui]

2 hours ago, astareus said:

Для спидранеров действительно нецелесообразно ждать часами, практически ничего не делая, только для того, чтобы сразиться с этим боссом. Пожалуйста, примите во внимание и наши пожелания, сделав этот бой доступным как можно скорее, поскольку нам нужны три босса-монстра.

 

A badger? What about this guy?

[Well-met]

TUNING.NO_BOSS_TIME = 0

[landromat]

the only reason it doesn't spawn in autumn is because it makes early game much harder, so yeah i'd prefer 1st autumn bearger

[Extimous]

I don't find it unreasonable to be able to summon him manually with a hostile flare

[AliceShiki]

3 hours ago, gaymime said:

mmm, doesnt intentionally accommodating speedrunners sorta invalidate the very concept of speedrunning? it just becomes a faster version of the walkthrough

Not exactly, but it can still be problematic for the game if it causes issue with the base design of the game.

Like... I think the latest version of Halo 2 purposefully unfixed some bugs that had been previously fixed by older versions of Halo 2 specifically to let Speedrunners have more tools to play with... But like, those bugs were things players wouldn't normally encounter in their runs, so there was no real harm in having those bugs exist.

Autumn 1 Bearger is a different story, because Autumn 1 Bearger is disabled by default specifically because it would cause issues for beginners if they got their first giant too early into the run, as they'll still be struggling to figure out how to survive the basics at this point.

One can argue that Hostile Flare summoning Bearger could be fine, but then there are people who dislike the fact Deerclops can be summoned by Hostile Flare and let you have as many Eyebrellas as you need, so... Yeah, it's not as simple as re-adding some random bug people would never normally occur like it happened in Halo 2.

So uhn... Well, I don't think the idea is meritless, but I do think it has its issues... And I definitely don't think catering to speedrunners is the right choice while doing game design... Though it can be fine once in a while if it won't affect anyone who is on a normal playthrough.

PS: Did my previous post in this thread disappear? That's so weird. I didn't get any alerts about it, so I think it's not an issue of the post being reported? I don't get what happened there.

[Cruvimaster]

I don't see any problem with Klei allowing the boss to be summoned using Hostile Flare. If I had to guess a reason why he wasn't allowed to be summoned like Derclops, I wouldn't say it was because of the loot, but rather because he's excellent at cutting down trees. But I think that's a small reason not to allow it.

[DVGMedia]

Bearger can't be summoned because he is sleeping  bearger only comes out in year two because of that

 

Besides having Bearger year one kind of trivializes having resource characters.  

There's actually balancing done to this because certain characters could not gather resources as fast as others thanks to their downsides

[WendyHater9000]

4 hours ago, DVGMedia said:

Bearger can't be summoned because he is sleeping  bearger only comes out in year two because of that

 

Besides having Bearger year one kind of trivializes having resource characters.  

There's actually balancing done to this because certain characters could not gather resources as fast as others thanks to their downsides

Ok, if he’s sleeping in the lore, then add a way for us to make him up then.

No sleepy anymore, let’s get wakey wakey

 

[Swiyss]

19 hours ago, gaymime said:

mmm, doesnt intentionally accommodating speedrunners sorta invalidate the very concept of speedrunning? it just becomes a faster version of the walkthrough

These people in here are so delusional is insane.

I am forced to play minimum 9 hours to reach the scion.

Don't you ******* see how disgusting this is? Are you ******* blind?

[Swiyss]

20 minutes ago, milsonmeow said:

I think you're the blind here sir. This game wasn't even built for speedrunning in the first place.

It doesn't matter if the game wasn't build for speedrunners. They exist, and they need to be able to kill a boss sooner than 9.3 hours.

[Swiyss]

It is NOT viable to spend 15 to 20 in-game days killing the celestial champion and then another 55 days doing nothing, just waiting for bearger to spawn.

1 minute ago, milsonmeow said:

but for what? gloating and bragging rights? do you want people to praise you for that????

for self accomplishment. It's like when someone gets happy when they kill the cc for the first time. Why do I have to explain to you that people like to kill bosses as fast as possible as an achievment??????????? Isn't this common sense?????????? Are you so egoist and selfish that you cannot see that other people enjoy the game differently than you???????

Just because it doesn't affect you, then it shouldn't be changed? Put yourself in others shoes for at the very least once instead of gatekeeping us from enjoying speedrunning.

[Crazy Gorilla]

3 minutes ago, astareus said:

It is NOT viable to spend 15 to 20 in-game days killing the celestial champion and then another 55 days doing nothing, just waiting for bearger to spawn.

Speedrunners make up their owns rules anyways. It usually isnt necessary to kill bearger unless they chose to do a specific run with that ruleset.

 

[Milordo]

47 minutes ago, astareus said:

These people in here are so delusional is insane.

I am forced to play minimum 9 hours to reach the scion.

Don't you ******* see how disgusting this is? Are you ******* blind?

No, and you're blowing things out of proportions. Calm down. We already explained to you why it's completely wrong. However I want to inform you that a solution has been found here:

 

[Swiyss]

16 minutes ago, Milordo said:

No, and you're blowing things out of proportions. Calm down. We already explained to you why it's completely wrong. However I want to inform you that a solution has been found here:

 

Yeah this solution is exactly what I'm asking for.

[AliceShiki]

2 hours ago, astareus said:

These people in here are so delusional is insane.

I am forced to play minimum 9 hours to reach the scion.

Don't you ******* see how disgusting this is? Are you ******* blind?

There are speedrun categories in other games that have the top spot at 80+ hours, so the run is forced to be done in multiple sittings, so... No, I see no issue.

If you dislike the category that forces you to play in a way you don't like, then just play other categories. Simple as that.

[Y0sH]

I think it's a little more simple than "Speedrunners" wanting Bearger to be spawned for bragging or gloating.

I myself and many people I play with on Public Servers like to get lunar quest line done as soon as I can just to experience the other half of the game that's locked behind rifts in a somewhat timely manner including the gear, weather changes etc..

Let's be honest you'll be hard pressed finding a public server that lasts through winter not to mention past it. AND BEFORE you respond with the run of the mill "Play in your own world/server etc" explanation, realize that a lot of the playerbase doesn't have beefy enough computers to host their own servers and even if they did they'll most likely be playing alone as even dedicated servers never get as much traffic as public ones and they suffer from not having the huge social aspect that DST has in public servers. I see no issue in making a way for Bearger being able to be summoned, wether it's a hostile flare or some other convoluted task that requires you to go out of your way to do it. This way new players are protected because it can't be done "accidentally" while more experienced players aren't locked into 9 hours wait to complete the possessed bosses.

[Radicaljoe]

I don't see an issue with being able to spawn bearger. What are players gonna get pre rift? The insulated pack? Oh no how horribly game breaking!

It even comes with a cost because that's less people able to have eyebrellas from using flares in winter. So it's for a very small amount of players, it's not very useful for majority of people, and it has an innate cost. Also, just like clops I imagine it will be chance to spawn, so could even be a wasted flare.

[DVGMedia]

52 minutes ago, Radicaljoe said:

I don't see an issue with being able to spawn bearger. What are players gonna get pre rift? The insulated pack? Oh no how horribly game breaking!

It even comes with a cost because that's less people able to have eyebrellas from using flares in winter. So it's for a very small amount of players, it's not very useful for majority of people, and it has an innate cost. Also, just like clops I imagine it will be chance to spawn, so could even be a wasted flare.

The thing is though bearger is such a boon in resource collection. It would completely throw out any sense of resource management. And collection. 

The biggest resource that players spend is time not a lot of things really help the player to save time. If you want to get things done you have to spend the time to do it and having badger early just completely destroys any concept of early game buildup. 

 

So even though it would be nice to have him we should not allow it since it would degrade characters that have their  Powers be resource collection.

[SirToastyToes]

Honestly I would just like it if you could summon Bearger with the Hostile Flare. Would require you to get Glommer and their Goop so it would still be time gated but moreso behind game knowledge. It still feels extremely weird that this item that is meant to attract hostile enemies to your location from miles away can seemingly only be seen by three specific kinds of creatures and only in specific conditions.

[gaymime]

7 hours ago, astareus said:

These people in here are so delusional is insane.

I am forced to play minimum 9 hours to reach the scion.

Don't you ******* see how disgusting this is? Are you ******* blind?

looool, hun, you havent known suffering until you've sat in for a scuttlebug jamboree x'''D

 

[FillerText]

"Ok, I killed all of the bosses day 4. Now we wait."

- Every Boss Rush video ever. 

In all honesty, It would be nice to be able to do something special to have a useful boon early on. I don't care much for DST speedruns, as they don't look very eventful. A major part of how dst entertains me is actively thinking, and planning in real time as to what I am going to do/work towards while performing tasks. That planning, and thinking obviously can't be expressed in Speedruns leading it to always just be "walking for x minutes to y destination to fight z as Wolfgang, the soulless automaton or whatever". It would just be nice to be able to get Hibearnation vest early.

Edited June 9, 2025 by FillerText