The maintenance of the forum environment is important to the development of klei

[aoka404]

Please rest assured, no insult to you, I hope you can carefully read, this is our majority of players on the klei forum expectations.

As we all know, in order to maintain the harmony and stability of the community, administrators should help solve the problems in the forum in a timely manner. Such as handling the player's opinions; Summarize bugs submitted by players and hand them over to programmers; Release game update notifications to players... Among them, resolving disputes between players is very important.

It is well known that the first thing to focus on is whether what the player is saying matches the topic of the discussion. If some people are just shaming others without being able to offer meaningful opinions, they should be banned, because their purpose is only to disturb the scope and divert the conflict. There are also some people who will only applaud from the side and will not point out the problems, so it is worth mentioning, but they will prevent others from raising their opinions, thinking that once they have opinions, they are saying that the authorities are not doing well. This will only intensify the contradictions between players, easy to let the official lose the opportunity to listen to good advice. And then there are the most incomprehensible ones -- players who like to undercut their numbers. The previous shadow axe is such an example, originally it has a good value, worthy of its demanding upgrade mechanism and advanced production materials, but in some advocates of "balance" requirements, it has become terrible to see, now the value has not matched its mechanism and materials, not many people will recommend making it.

And yet the way you're managing it seems like you're protecting these people. Instead of punishing them effectively, you have banned other players from speaking, and they continue to pollute the forum by speaking freely. I know that you don't want to offend anyone, that those people are a minority, and that most people are sensible and understand how you handle this. But this is just putting the cart before the horse, troublemakers will only be "calm" if they are completely beheaded. And those who truly care for you will be disappointed in you and lose their trust in you once they are let down.

Don't be afraid of unreasonable people, giving in to them will only hurt you and the players behind you who support klei. Even if the colonies can't be completely eliminated, you can just treat them like pests. After all, do people think too much about killing bugs? Even if they humiliate you and say you are biased, just ban it, and ignore what these unreasonable people say.

In the future, please do not manage as before, and make sure that the bad people who disrupt the community know that klei forums only have room for reasonable and meaningful speeches.

@JoeW

[Catteflyterpill]

I actually like bugs.

[Reiko24]

1 hour ago, aoka404 said:

If some people are just shaming others without being able to offer meaningful opinions, they should be banned, because their purpose is only to disturb the scope and divert the conflict.

Kind of ironic coming from you specifically.

[YouKnowWho142]

2 hours ago, aoka404 said:

Please rest assured, no insult to you, I hope you can carefully read, this is our majority of players on the klei forum expectations.

As we all know, in order to maintain the harmony and stability of the community, administrators should help solve the problems in the forum in a timely manner. Such as handling the player's opinions; Summarize bugs submitted by players and hand them over to programmers; Release game update notifications to players... Among them, resolving disputes between players is very important.

It is well known that the first thing to focus on is whether what the player is saying matches the topic of the discussion. If some people are just shaming others without being able to offer meaningful opinions, they should be banned, because their purpose is only to disturb the scope and divert the conflict. There are also some people who will only applaud from the side and will not point out the problems, so it is worth mentioning, but they will prevent others from raising their opinions, thinking that once they have opinions, they are saying that the authorities are not doing well. This will only intensify the contradictions between players, easy to let the official lose the opportunity to listen to good advice. And then there are the most incomprehensible ones -- players who like to undercut their numbers. The previous shadow axe is such an example, originally it has a good value, worthy of its demanding upgrade mechanism and advanced production materials, but in some advocates of "balance" requirements, it has become terrible to see, now the value has not matched its mechanism and materials, not many people will recommend making it.

And yet the way you're managing it seems like you're protecting these people. Instead of punishing them effectively, you have banned other players from speaking, and they continue to pollute the forum by speaking freely. I know that you don't want to offend anyone, that those people are a minority, and that most people are sensible and understand how you handle this. But this is just putting the cart before the horse, troublemakers will only be "calm" if they are completely beheaded. And those who truly care for you will be disappointed in you and lose their trust in you once they are let down.

Don't be afraid of unreasonable people, giving in to them will only hurt you and the players behind you who support klei. Even if the colonies can't be completely eliminated, you can just treat them like pests. After all, do people think too much about killing bugs? Even if they humiliate you and say you are biased, just ban it, and ignore what these unreasonable people say.

In the future, please do not manage as before, and make sure that the bad people who disrupt the community know that klei forums only have room for reasonable and meaningful speeches.

@JoeW

I can tell just by looking at your posts that you are a part of the problem that you directly address in this post

[Leozin1614]

1 hour ago, Reiko24 said:

Kind of ironic coming from you specifically.

exactly, this same owner of this post keeps making posts saying rude things but the most that happens is the post disappearing out of nowhere

[Auth]

Tyrannically banning all opinions you disagree with does not a good discussion forum make.

Someone disagreeing with something is not making a thread off-topic. It is engaging in discussion. Supporting another user’s opinion is not making a thread off-topic. If good posts are getting buried, they can make their own threads- it’s not like we’re operating with a finite number of threads that can exist. If somebody has something important to say they always have a means of getting it out there.

Balance and Buff/Nerf discussions are something bound to happen with a video game forum. Virtually every thread is about that if you trim away the fat and get to what it’s discussing. If Klei didn’t want posts like that, why would they bother having a forum.

The Klei forums are for civil discussion among other users, not for directly speaking to devs and especially not for demanding things from Klei. 

Klei can get a good idea of what players want by letting players discuss things amongst themselves, it allows opinions to naturally form and explain themselves.

Lately there has been an influx of new users who seem to have an incredibly wrong idea of what to expect from the forums. The forums are not for that, never have been, and geez I hope they never will be.

[aoka404]

8 hours ago, Reiko24 said:

Kind of ironic coming from you specifically.

I already gave it to the authorities. It's useless. And then I went on a rant against the authorities, and it didn't work. They might as well send some peaceful comments, but at least they can't delete them openly.

And you're twisting my meaning. I did not abuse other players for no reason, and all my complaints will only be passed on directly to the authorities.

7 hours ago, Leozin1614 said:

exactly, this same owner of this post keeps making posts saying rude things but the most that happens is the post disappearing out of nowhere

All I care about now is the result, after all, politeness didn't work in the past.

If patience is of no use, what are you gonna do if you're not tough? Compromise?

8 hours ago, YouKnowWho142 said:

I can tell just by looking at your posts that you are a part of the problem that you directly address in this post

The part about abusing people?

I've actually scolded the authorities a couple of times, but it doesn't help.

And blamed only the authorities

6 hours ago, Auth said:

Tyrannically banning all opinions you disagree with does not a good discussion forum make.

Someone disagreeing with something is not making a thread off-topic. It is engaging in discussion. Supporting another user’s opinion is not making a thread off-topic. If good posts are getting buried, they can make their own threads- it’s not like we’re operating with a finite number of threads that can exist. If somebody has something important to say they always have a means of getting it out there.

Balance and Buff/Nerf discussions are something bound to happen with a video game forum. Virtually every thread is about that if you trim away the fat and get to what it’s discussing. If Klei didn’t want posts like that, why would they bother having a forum.

The Klei forums are for civil discussion among other users, not for directly speaking to devs and especially not for demanding things from Klei. 

Klei can get a good idea of what players want by letting players discuss things amongst themselves, it allows opinions to naturally form and explain themselves.

Lately there has been an influx of new users who seem to have an incredibly wrong idea of what to expect from the forums. The forums are not for that, never have been, and geez I hope they never will be.

You're the only calm, organized responder so far.

But as far as I know, some purely negative content, such as "racist" related content, is not removed, and I don't understand why these stains are left.

Isn't the basis of forum management to punish the publishers of extreme speech?

[Yaorin yon]

On 2/1/2025 at 12:03 AM, Reiko24 said:

Kind of ironic coming from you specifically.

 

On 2/1/2025 at 12:49 AM, YouKnowWho142 said:

I can tell just by looking at your posts that you are a part of the problem that you directly address in this post

Many people are unable to evaluate a matter from the perspective of the entire situation, which leads to their evaluations being taken out of context. It's like you only see one person punching another, but you don't know what the person being attacked has done before that. If one evaluates the situation without fully understanding it, then such statements often promote unhealthy practices.

[Reiko24]

2 hours ago, Yaorin yon said:

 

Many people are unable to evaluate a matter from the perspective of the entire situation, which leads to their evaluations being taken out of context. It's like you only see one person punching another, but you don't know what the person being attacked has done before that. If one evaluates the situation without fully understanding it, then such statements often promote unhealthy practices.

I actually DO KNOW because I have been active lately since the beginning of the beta and even before, and have read most posts. You don’t know and you are trying to protect someone’s image even though they don’t deserve it, because you are extremely biased.

[Yaorin yon]

2 hours ago, Reiko24 said:

I actually DO KNOW because I have been active lately since the beginning of the beta and even before, and have read most posts. You don’t know and you are trying to protect someone’s image even though they don’t deserve it, because you are extremely biased.

When the flame does not burn on a person, of course they do not feel pain. I know what everyone present has done, and I am just stating a fact.

If you think I'm just biased/protecting one player, then I can only tell you that I might be biased/protecting every player.