Calling all Wendy Mains who are actually in favor of Nerfing Wendy.

[Mike23Ua]

As the title says, I’m wanting to get the opinions of actual Wendy mains and ONLY the ones who are in favor of hitting the character with some actual Nerfs. 

(The Nerfs must be fair, reasonable and well thought out rather than just seeming like malicious intent)

Its no secret That after Wendy’s Rework she became a little too easy to play, I mean.. you can continuously summon Abigail over and over again with no effort or requirements involved, there’s a REASON you see so many threads about people not using Ecthoherbology potions, or the Sisturn..

And it’s because having an infinity life summon that requires no sort of upkeep whatsoever is just THAT Powerful.

Fair comparison sake: Willow has to either craft new Bernie Dolls, repair them with Sewing Kits, or wait for their health to slowly recover (which stops working if he reaches 0% and fall to the ground a torn apart mess)

So I’m now going to ask the questions to actual Wendy mains, who can see she needs to be brought down a peg or two  that no one dares to want to ask:

”How would YOU Nerf Wendy?”

I’ll start first-

It makes no sense to me at all why we can craft ADDITIONAL Abigail’s flowers, after her rework the flower never needs to leave Wendy’s inventory at all, there’s no pirate monkey that swipes it out your inventory and chews it down..

This is just lingering mechanics from BEFORE her Rework.

I’d like for there to be actual gameplay purposes to craft additional flowers maybe they can each have different bloom out rate cooldowns. Maybe we need to use additional Abigail flowers in a crafting Recipe whatever- just give crafting them at all an actual purpose.

The Sisturn: Okay so in the current Beta you can now place several different variety of flower petal into a Sisturn.. but, you can also never bother crafting a Sisturn at all and still Summon Abigail endlessly with no upkeep cost.

I vote we change that, Wendy must have at least one Sisturn on the map being fueled by whatever in order to summon Abigail. Simple, easy.. fair- And makes her less AFK Simulator.

Lastly the petal Bestowment buff added during her rework made Wendy a little TOO Good, especially when mounted on a Beefalo. But with new features like “Haunt” in the game where you’ll be able to target an area and apply this effect, the petal buff could be re-designed to function as part of “Haunt”

Haunt the Wolfgang to boost his Damage, Haunt the Wes to boost his damage above Wolfgang’s.. (funny Wendy & Wes Synergy) Haunt Yourself to boost your damage, Haunt the Beefalo your riding to boost its damage…

But gone will be the incredibly broken thing that is one Wendy petal buff boost for an Army of 5 Wolfgang’s.

It’s Fair, it’s Balanced, it makes sense, it makes Wendy less AFK Simulator and actually puts her into more of a Summoner/Support role.

These are the three hard (but completely fair Nerfs) I.. a Wendy Main would hit my character with to make her less AFK Simulator and more demanding of the player to actually DO Something besides watch Abigail do everything. 

Now it’s your turn.. if your in favor of Nerfs how would you Nerf her as your Main? 

[Evelo]

I uh, don't main her, but she is my 2nd/3rd most played character. Does that count?

(For reference I want Wormwood to be nerfed too)

Also your suggestions here seem pretty fun.

[Tranoze]

Ah you gave me idea to BUFF wendy even more - add new skill make her flower bond to her (just like wanda watches) so it cant be knock off/stolen and you got your flower when you revive.

6 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

, after her rework the flower never needs to leave Wendy’s inventory at all,

 

[Cuernito.]

If you really main the girl why you want to nerf her so bad? i dont get it, i mean i main Winona and i have never wanted her to be nerfed(ik klei still nerfed my poor girl 2 times). I know its not the same cause winona is not a fight oriented character like wendy but do you really think wendy needs to be weaker now? She became one of the easiest to learn character after her rework, she is the most noob friendly of all characters, klei already turned wendy into that, do you think they are gonna change her to be harder, more complex to play or even weaker? idk my friend she already is the best character to start into this game if you dont want a hard time of course(early game btw).

This is really weird coming from a wendy main, so you want wendy to be worst? why? would it be more fun to you if wendy was a worse character? if thats the case you should try wes if you like a good challenge. But if you want wendy to be more complex to use... well as i said before klei already made the girl the most noob friendly character, it wouldnt make much sense to make her harder to use this late of the road, at least thats my opinion sorry.

10 hours ago, Evelo said:

I uh, don't main her, but she is my 2nd/3rd most played character. Does that count?

(For reference I want Wormwood to be nerfed too)

Also your suggestions here seem pretty fun.

Isnt wormwood one of the weakest characters already? well if you take skill trees in consideration of course.

[Myrem]

19 minutes ago, NekoSoulx said:

This is really weird coming from a wendy main, so you want wendy to be worst? why? would it be more fun to you if wendy was a worse character? if thats the case you should try wes if you like a good challenge. But if you want wendy to be more complex to use... well as i said before klei already made the girl the most noob friendly character, it wouldnt make much sense to make her harder to use this late of the road, at least thats my opinion sorry.

I agree with you

[Evelo]

9 minutes ago, NekoSoulx said:

Isnt wormwood one of the weakest characters already? well if you take skill trees in consideration of course.

No? He does a lot of damage now, has a spammable insanely powerful sleep ability, and healing isn't really an issue post rift with the shadow maul and it being repairable and what not. He was more fun when he was weaker and didn't have all these fancy abilities. Maybe I am just the minority but I love adversity. Abigail being a glass cannon is awesome especially since she is not directly player controlled so you have to take care to actually use her abilities (the new skillset ones) and work around her behavior to benefit from her damage and her vex.

14 minutes ago, NekoSoulx said:

If you really main the girl why you want to nerf her so bad?

Maining a character does not mean you want them to become all powerful. Challenge is fun, and working around character weaknesses is really engaging.

[Steorra]

19 minutes ago, NekoSoulx said:

This is really weird coming from a wendy main, so you want wendy to be worst? why? would it be more fun to you if wendy was a worse character? 

I've seen many potential gatekeeping purpose from some veteran players who take part in Wendy discussion. For some of them they just want to get out of those casual players. They believe that casual perspective would ruins their enjoyment of the complex skill expression.

[Myrem]

6 minutes ago, Steorra said:

For some of them they just want to get out of those casual players. They believe that casual perspective would ruins their enjoyment of the complex skill expression.

I mainly play Wendy for leisure, and when I pursue harm, I'll choose other characters

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, NekoSoulx said:

If you really main the girl why you want to nerf her so bad? i dont get it, i mean i main Winona and i have never wanted her to be nerfed(ik klei still nerfed my poor girl 2 times). I know its not the same cause winona is not a fight oriented character like wendy but do you really think wendy needs to be weaker now? She became one of the easiest to learn character after her rework, she is the most noob friendly of all characters, klei already turned wendy into that, do you think they are gonna change her to be harder, more complex to play or even weaker? idk my friend she already is the best character to start into this game if you dont want a hard time of course(early game btw).

This is really weird coming from a wendy main, so you want wendy to be worst? why? would it be more fun to you if wendy was a worse character? if thats the case you should try wes if you like a good challenge. But if you want wendy to be more complex to use... well as i said before klei already made the girl the most noob friendly character, it wouldnt make much sense to make her harder to use this late of the road, at least thats my opinion sorry.

Isnt wormwood one of the weakest characters already? well if you take skill trees in consideration of course.

To answer your question: Don’t Starve is classified and sold as a Uncompromising RogueLike Adventure game.

this very specific category of gaming genre is intended for people who are actively seeking a challenge, and telling me to play Wes is just pure insulting.

Maybe I want Wendy specific challenges and downsides to overcome & work around? 

Wolfgang requires gathering resources, crafting dumbells and working out to maintain his mighty buff or to spend a lot of time chopping/mining. Dumbells have durability, they need to be replaced.

Wendy spawns into the game with Abigail ready to go right off the bat, no cooldown, no wait delay, no need to build a Sisturn or insert flower petals into it.

Comparing Wendy to every other character, her Rework made her require to have the LEAST amount of work then every other survivor.

People literally play Wendy and skip the entire Pipspook/Ecthoherbology gathering, because unlike Wolfgang who needs to DEFIANTLY go gather resources to craft new Dumbells..

Wendy doesn’t need potions, she doesn’t need a petal filled operational Sisturn, she doesn’t even need to wait a cooldown timer before she can use her perks again (like Wanda)

Wendy is Broken… and I’m trying to provide Logic as to why someone who mains her would want her Nerfed. (Fairly)

[dst_lover]

1 hour ago, NekoSoulx said:

If you really main the girl why you want to nerf her so bad? i dont get it, i mean i main Winona and i have never wanted her to be nerfed(ik klei still nerfed my poor girl 2 times). I know its not the same cause winona is not a fight oriented character like wendy but do you really think wendy needs to be weaker now? She became one of the easiest to learn character after her rework, she is the most noob friendly of all characters, klei already turned wendy into that, do you think they are gonna change her to be harder, more complex to play or even weaker? idk my friend she already is the best character to start into this game if you dont want a hard time of course(early game btw).

This is really weird coming from a wendy main, so you want wendy to be worst? why? would it be more fun to you if wendy was a worse character? if thats the case you should try wes if you like a good challenge. But if you want wendy to be more complex to use... well as i said before klei already made the girl the most noob friendly character, it wouldnt make much sense to make her harder to use this late of the road, at least thats my opinion sorry.

Isnt wormwood one of the weakest characters already? well if you take skill trees in consideration of course.

I main wurt and I went her to get nerf and I am not the only main wurt who went wurt to get nerf this is just normal 

1 hour ago, Steorra said:

I've seen many potential gatekeeping purpose from some veteran players who take part in Wendy discussion. For some of them they just want to get out of those casual players. They believe that casual perspective would ruins their enjoyment of the complex skill expression.

Bro I am not in the forums in too long of a time but Mike23Ua is one of the most people who opposes to make the game harder and he mostly supports casual players and he mostly argues with veterans and opposes to their ideas 

[Steorra]

10 minutes ago, dst_lover said:

Bro I am not in the forums in too long of a time but Mike23Ua is one of the most people who opposes to make the game harder and he mostly supports casual players and he mostly argues with veterans and opposes to their ideas 

I'm sorry, I was fall into some chaos emotions these days.

I'm sorry if I were harmed someone who has no malice...