[Game Update] - 642838

[V2C]

Changes

• Soul damage numbers have been increased.
• Adjusted Shadow Harvester perk for single targets.
• Adjusted Lifted Spirits I's speed bonus.
• Shifted focus for Lifebringer II.
• Woby’s first level training skills have been merged into one single skill.
• Decreased the maximum number of allocated Woby training points from 6 to 4.
• Walter’s Projectile Pro skill lock now requires 4 skills instead of 5.  Affinity skills will count towards this lock as well.
• Replaced pre rift ingredients for post rift ingredients for Wendy’s Aligned potions.
• Removed upper lock from Walter’s Affinity tree.
• Luminous Wrath elixir has boosted effect on Gestalt Abigail.

 

Beta Bug Fixes

• Fixed Wortox's Capricious Movement perk resulting in a loss of range.
• Slingshot special and charged shots can now be used while mounted.
• Fixed bug where Slingshot Grip Tape could not be installed.
• Fixed being able to trade certain restricted items.
• Fixed Sisturn petal preserving crash.
• Fixed “learnable” locks on Wendy’s skill tree.
• Fixed default damage being set to 0 when respawning.
• Fixed an engine crash related to minimap icons.
• Fixed Nightshade Nostrum Elixir interaction with Gestalt Abigail

 

General Bug Fixes

• Fixed Rock Lobsters possessed by Void Masque creating herds.
• Fixed a crash related to Wanda being devoured by the Great Depths Worm.
• Fixed crash related to directly picking up items from Icker Preserver using mods.
• Fixed Mimicreep sometimes getting stuck when trying to mimic an item.

 

Notes for Modders

• Missing minimap icons will show up as a bright checked texture now please report ones found that are from the base game.

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[aidankocherhans]

Dang, that was quick

[Hyuyu]

good beginnings for wortox, looking fowards for the next changes that will happen

[Anthony_L3hr]

This looks like a promising start!

[kroban]

26 minutes ago, V2C said:

• Woby’s first level training skills have been merged into one single skill.
• Decreased the maximum number of allocated Woby training points from 6 to 4.

Noice

[WenericMember]

Is it just me, or is it impossible to place graves using the gravestones by wendy skill?

I've enable freecrafting and have the skill learnt, but it's impossible to place as far as I can tell.

[Nikki Darks]

11 minutes ago, WenericMember said:

Is it just me, or is it impossible to place graves using the gravestones by wendy skill?

I've enable freecrafting and have the skill learnt, but it's impossible to place as far as I can tell.

Same here, it just shows a black grave to be placed but I couldn't actually place it.

 

[Gytre]

18 minutes ago, WenericMember said:

Is it just me, or is it impossible to place graves using the gravestones by wendy skill?

I've enable freecrafting and have the skill learnt, but it's impossible to place as far as I can tell.

7 minutes ago, Nikki Darks said:

Same here, it just shows a black grave to be placed but I couldn't actually place it.

 

I don't know if this is the only option but you can build it on skeleton.

 

[WenericMember]

3 minutes ago, Gytre said:

I don't know if this is the only option but you can build it on skeleton.

 

Ah you are correct. It makes sense that that's how you'd handle it, but that probably means you need to die on loop to create your own graveyard which is... not great. Though relocating graves is free so i suppose it's not THAT significant.

Edited November 22, 2024 by WenericMember

[weinizhisibuyu]

We want the soul jar to be used as same as soul and not as a container.And the soul can be used as fuel to fill soul jar.

[doug27fani]

Does anyone have the exact numbers of the slingshot modifications? firing speed, distance, load capacity?

[Evelo]

I crashed as Wendy when using an Abigail offensive ability while she was unsummoned.

[doug27fani]

If anyone has the commands to make Woby 100% in skills it would help a lot

[Mysterious box]

32 minutes ago, doug27fani said:

Does anyone have the exact numbers of the slingshot modifications? firing speed, distance, load capacity?

I don't have the other numbers but the storage one is 2 slots with a cap of 60 each for the first and second upgrade with the second using the top slot for special shots the final upgrade removes the additional slot but also completely removes the storage cap on the single slot and gives you access to the charged shot which is a lot stronger.

Edited November 22, 2024 by Mysterious box

[papapav]

as a wortox main, i LOVE the nice side, no notes

not quite sure what soul damage increase means, but naughty side seems like good beginnings but feels lackluster, i think the damage scaling from souljars should be higher, the bonus from 5x fully stacked jars is not worth the inventory space and time/resources at the moment :/ (and/or slightly higher damage on soul passthroughs) if not damage, maybe each hit auto-drops a single soul from one of your jars for auto-healing during fights?

Edited November 22, 2024 by papapav

[NanoJD]

Disclaimer: This is not my opinion. I'm summarizing feedback from various comments on a YouTube video:  

 

Wendy's Skill Tree Feedback:

1. Graveyard Tree:

   • The concept is solid but could be improved. Features like gravestones and dark petals are seen as unhelpful and should be replaced with more practical options. Suggested changes include skills that improve teamwork with Abigail, like increasing her health or damage output.
   • The tonic upgrade feels underwhelming. Players hoped for new, special tonics, similar to Walter's unique slingshot ammo.

2. Shadow Tree:

   • This tree should emphasize Wendy's resistance to sanity loss, with skills like "Confidence" potentially reducing sanity drain for nearby teammates.
   • Abigail could transform into a nightmare creature for shadow alignment, gaining higher damage, faster attacks, DoT (damage over time), or better effectiveness against lunar enemies.

3. General Changes:

   • Abigail's command abilities should be base features, not tied to the skill tree.
   • The skill trees could be reorganized into two larger trees (one for Wendy and one for Abigail) instead of several smaller ones.
   • Suggested new abilities: using Abigail's flower as a weapon, summoning a damaging field in a fixed location, or turning Abigail into a high-damage, tanky poltergeist.

4. Comparisons with Other Characters:

   • Walter: A skill that restores sanity when healing could balance his sanity loss mechanics.
   • Wortox: His benefits for being kind are appreciated; similar mechanics could be added to other characters.

5. Lunar vs. Shadow Alignment:

   • Lunar alignment generally feels more interesting and useful compared to shadow alignment, which many consider underwhelming or ineffective.

[RockOnTable]

Is the dreadstone round just worse than the gunpowder round or is there a difference? If there isn’t than my dear old pal recommend that they do more damage at lower sanity. 
 

Same with the stinger and glass rounds, is the glass one just better or is there a difference? (I haven’t tested that one yet so I really don’t know)

[Mysterious box]

2 minutes ago, RonanMcQ said:

Is the dreadstone round just worse than the gunpowder round or is there a difference? If there isn’t than my dear old pal recommend that they do more damage at lower sanity. 
 

Same with the stinger and glass rounds, is the glass one just better or is there a difference? (I haven’t tested that one yet so I really don’t know)

From my testing yes dreadstone is weaker than gunpowder and sting is just weaker glass round.

In the case of dreadstone I think the idea was that post rift you can mass produce them faster than gunpowder but yea it's still weird for dreadstone rounds not to have a secondary effect when compared to thulecite rounds.

As for sting rounds I think it's fine as a cheap alternative.

[RockOnTable]

6 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

From my testing yes dreadstone is weaker than gunpowder and sting is just weaker glass round.

In the case of dreadstone I think the idea was that post rift you can mass produce them faster than gunpowder but yea it's still weird for dreadstone rounds not to have a secondary effect when compared to thulecite rounds.

As for sting rounds I think it's fine as a cheap alternative.

I’d personally prefer an additional effect for stinger rounds but it’s less degenerate less necessary than the dreadstone ones

[OziMoziDoozy]

Tbh the skill tree is really disappointing compared to the other two and I have some ideas they could do
Blessed sisturn tree:
1-being able to put mourning glories inside the urn to freshen the flowers
2- should definitely be placed as a standalone skill instead of in the sisturn tree, and replacing it with another. I suggest that it makes the urn's sanity aura bigger and increase it a little?
3-Being able to place abigail's flower inside.
Dark Petals Tree:
Dark petals 1: Wendy can can corrupt flowers/petals using the help of a pipspook.Evil flowers give wendy sanity instead of draining it.
Dark petals 2: Wendy learns the ability to grow flowers using mourning glories. Abigail teaches wendy to make a shroud of flowers and a dark petal garland to wear.(20 normal flower petals instead of dark for shroud of flowers and 12 dark petals to make the garland) dark garland drains wendy's health per second to heal her sister.

strong brew tree shouldnt be a tree but instead act as a single skill so there's room for an actual one.
Strong Brew: Elixirs with one day duration will now last 2 days, and their effects are slightly stronger. She can now craft a potion bag.
Vengeful Ghost: the effect now lasts permanently, but deals way less damage and with a really short vex passive.
(pipspook quest tree also feels unnecessary, and it also should be changed to a single skill so there's room.
Pipspook Quest: pipspook lost toys are not so far away, and they produce more mourning glories.
Graveyard skill Tree:
Im changing Grave Beautification tooo
Spirit Guide: Wendy can adorn graves with flowers inviting spirits living there to come and visit, and can now invite these spirits to follow her using mourning glories.(yess ghost minionss)
Final Resting Place?: Wendy can dig up gravestones and relocate them. Wendy can also make her own gravestones and customize them.(yess special graves to mourn players in serversss)
Gravestones by wendy is removed and a new standalone skill can be added.
Team spirit skill tree :
1- is fine as it is
2-Abigail can now perform a dash attack to anywhere wendy points, and she can use scare things
3-Abigail can now possess an enemy for a short amount of time(excluding bosses)[5 mourning glory cost] and has a cooldown.
Lunar and shadow allegiance skill trees:
When it comes to picking an allegiance side I want the players to have a choice on which side of abigail that they want stronger. should she completely excel at taking on large sums of targets? or should she excel at single ones? it should come down to the player's choice.
Lunar Allegiance: Abigail's Gestalt form now has an area of damage on startup around her, and her dash to the target  damages other targets along the way reduced by the amount of targets she hits. Lunar allegiance 1 now grants abigail being able to attack nightmare creatures and deal slightly more damage to them. Lunar Allegiance 2 now instead grants abigail a sleep effect buildup on targets hit.(get it cause she's a gestalt?)
Shadow Allegiance skill tree:
1: Abigail now slightly deals more damage to lunar creatures.
2:Increases abigail's vex duration and increases its damage effect.
3:Wendy can now use the Night Light with 0 sanity to fill abigail with shadow energy, turning her into a nightmare. Abigail now lunges into single targets wendy hits, starting a series of attacks and dealing damage on end. The Night light can restore her ghost status if you use it during the full moon.
I sincerely apologize for any grammar mistakesss or some too op skills and all the like but I wrote all this in 3 am so please excuse me(I dont even know if Im even allowed to write this long since its my first time but y'know lemme know what yall think!) oh and I really hope klei notices this!

Edited November 22, 2024 by OziMoziDoozy

[arubaro]

6 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

From my testing yes dreadstone is weaker than gunpowder and sting is just weaker glass round.

In the case of dreadstone I think the idea was that post rift you can mass produce them faster than gunpowder but yea it's still weird for dreadstone rounds not to have a secondary effect when compared to thulecite rounds.

As for sting rounds I think it's fine as a cheap alternative.

They could explode in a miasma cloud

[Kondr_]

deleted (do not get how to actually delete or move posts)

Edited November 23, 2024 by Kondr_
want to move it to different thread