Reiko24 Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 I wonder if there's a reason why we still haven't gotten the lunar equivalent of nightmare fuel. The Gestalts are made out of it, it pours out of Celestial Champion, it pours out of Lunar Bernie. As for nightmare fuel, Shadows are made out of it, it pours out of Ancient Fuelweaver, it pours out of Shadow Bernie. (I added the screenshot because I first didn't believe that "daymare" is a real word. And it is, and it even means something negative, just like nightmare. It would fit the Lunar side) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFlower Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 I mean, Gestalts are ghosts, they put you to sleep, they can attack THROUGH the armor and they need to possess stuff in order to actually gain physical power. So I think that this is why there's no daymare fuel in the game even if that sounds like a dream come true(see what I did there ? Dream, Nightmare, hahahaha I'm funny) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropo Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 Nightmare Fuel is a patented resource that the shadows give out to people to trick them into being taken advantage of by the shadows. The lunar entities seem to prefer to prey on dead bodies to get what they want, or plants for some reason which seem to be the exception. They don't need a seductive and magical source of power, because they just wait for their host to die and take them over. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 20 minutes ago, JustAFlower said: they can attack THROUGH the armor Gestals from the grotto dont atack throw armor while shadows from rifts do Same way celestial champion doesnt deal planar damage neither fuelweaver. Moontations like horror hounds or pengulls deal regular damage Is called planar damage because comes from other plane of existence so it goes throw your physical 3d body Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrocator Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 Canadians ain’t scared of no daylight hallucinations only Off-Season and what might be in their closets. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 I think infused moon shards are the equivalent klei seem to be having trouble picking a lane when it comes whether or not they want the to sides to mirror each other or not Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 2 hours ago, Dr.Webber said: klei seem to be having trouble picking a lane when it comes whether or not they want the to sides to mirror each other or not To be honest I like the current direction. Too much mirroring would be less interesting. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 Just now, DaZoul said: To be honest I like the current direction. Too much mirroring would be less interesting. Ya I get that but if there gonna go the direction of just opposing forces they should stop putting in these half assed mirrorings Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 11 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said: Ya I get that but if there gonna go the direction of just opposing forces they should stop putting in these half assed mirrorings Nah I do think there's enough mirroring; perfect examples being the Rifts, the Pure resources, and even the skilltree Affinities; to make it obvious that they are opposing forces, and I think that is the perfect middle-ground. Keeps the mirroring, but also keeps the originality of the two sides. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 1 hour ago, DaZoul said: Nah I do think there's enough mirroring; perfect examples being the Rifts, the Pure resources, and even the skilltree Affinities; to make it obvious that they are opposing forces, and I think that is the perfect middle-ground. Keeps the mirroring, but also keeps the originality of the two sides. The skill tree affinities are either not reflective at all or reflectively half assed and as a whole are barely even equal brightshades and ink blights are barely comparable fused shadlings and are the same and one of them can’t even die miasma is clearable and the lunar equivalent isn’t also if you don’t stand on it while it is forming it has no effect look I’m not saying there can’t be parallel or the occasional mirroring in skill tree’s but they got to pick a path and stick with it because the way things currently are is bringing down the whole game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said: The skill tree affinities are either not reflective at all or reflectively half assed and as a whole are barely even equal brightshades and ink blights are barely comparable fused shadlings and are the same and one of them can’t even die miasma is clearable and the lunar equivalent isn’t also if you don’t stand on it while it is forming it has no effect look I’m not saying there can’t be parallel or the occasional mirroring in skill tree’s but they got to pick a path and stick with it because the way things currently are is bringing down the whole game We're just gonna have to agree to disagree here. Those things you listed are what I like about the differences between the two. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 12 minutes ago, DaZoul said: We're just gonna have to agree to disagree here. Those things you listed are what I like about the differences between the two. If that’s so why do you choose the middle road instead of just apposing forces road Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 10 hours ago, Reiko24 said: I wonder if there's a reason why we still haven't gotten the lunar equivalent of nightmare fuel. probably because lunacy has no threat even 6 years later. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waoling Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 Nightmare Fuel = Infused Moon Shard. Pure Horror = Pure Brilliance. Dreadstone = Scrap. Dark Tatter = Brightshade Husk Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 3 minutes ago, Waoling said: Nightmare Fuel = Infused Moon Shard. Pure Horror = Pure Brilliance. Dreadstone = Scrap. Dark Tatter = Brightshade Husk You sure about scrap being the equivalent to dread stone Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waoling Posted July 18, 2024 Share Posted July 18, 2024 16 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said: You sure about scrap being the equivalent to dread stone Yeah, they both make armor that give 5 Plannar defense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 19, 2024 Share Posted July 19, 2024 15 minutes ago, Waoling said: Yeah, they both make armor that give 5 Plannar defense. What about the other abilities of the armors and the fact scrap isn’t made of pure brilliance Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waoling Posted July 19, 2024 Share Posted July 19, 2024 4 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said: What about the other abilities of the armors and the fact scrap isn’t made of pure brilliance So? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 19, 2024 Share Posted July 19, 2024 4 minutes ago, Waoling said: So? It doesn’t seem very equivalent-y Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waoling Posted July 19, 2024 Share Posted July 19, 2024 3 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said: It doesn’t seem very equivalent-y Well, Dreadstone aren't a fuel source like other shadow thing, and Scrap are man made unlike other lunar thing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 19, 2024 Share Posted July 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, Waoling said: Well, Dreadstone aren't a fuel source like other shadow thing, and Scrap are man made unlike other lunar thing. Ya it could be equivalent but that would be a crappy decision on klei’s part Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waoling Posted July 19, 2024 Share Posted July 19, 2024 Just now, Dr.Webber said: Ya it could be equivalent but that would be a crappy decision on klei’s part Why? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted July 19, 2024 Share Posted July 19, 2024 Wilson can convert Dreadstone into pure horror, and can craft pure horror into nightmare fuel, and vise versa. at the same time, Wilson can craft Pure Brilliance into Infused moon shards, and vise versa. This leads me to believe that moon glass, as in the kind you get when you let infused moon shards spoil, is the sort of nightmare fuel equivalent Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 19, 2024 Share Posted July 19, 2024 39 minutes ago, Waoling said: Why? Because they don’t fully mirror each other Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waoling Posted July 19, 2024 Share Posted July 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said: Because they don’t fully mirror each other I think they does, Wagstaff side with the Lunar, and scrap are made by Wagstaff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158379-daymare-fuel/#findComment-1736478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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