Top 5 Things about being dead that really annoy me

[Jakepeng99]

5. Too slow. Please increase the speed of the ghost, and maybe increase the duration of the speed buff from Wendy's potions on player ghosts. May have use.

4. No button to teleport you to the portal, or a touch stone you touched like in solo ds, or with how meat effigies work.

3. Can't haunt players. It would be funny to annoy them.

2. Can't go over cave gaps, makes traveling it really annoying, you can get stuck. But this combined with number 1...

1. Can't see in the dark. We should be able to see in the dark as a ghost. It is rather annoying and would be great quality of life.

[Wormboi]

great title by the way

[DegenerateFurry]

5: I don't think the base ghost speed should change since death should be a punishment for mistakes, but I do agree with increasing Wendy's potion's speed buff duration for player ghosts.
A portal teleport would be way too much, you might as well just instantly respawn at that point and nobody would bother with telltale hearts anymore since those give you a max health penalty and cost HP to make.

4: I don't actually think touch stones should get a teleport. If you haven't taken measures to account for dying (such as a meat effigy or a life-giving amulet), you should have to either get revived by someone else or slowly float your way over to a touch stone. They're free, so they shouldn't be great. 

3: It wouldn't be too funny for the player being annoyed to be directly haunted, and this'd be a pretty easy griefing method. 

2: I agree wholeheartedly here, especially if void walking is never removed. If it's fair to let us cross the ocean as a ghost, why not cave gaps?

1: I'm on the fence about this. It'd be fair enough in the caves since you've got no way to see where you're going, but on the surface, it's light out more often than it isn't. Then again, some people play nighttime-only worlds. 

[Reiko24]

1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said:

4. No button to teleport you to the portal, or a touch stone you touched like in solo ds, or with meat effigies.

There is a button to teleport and use your meat effigy from anywhere.

[NPCMaxwell]

1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said:

5. Too slow. Please increase the speed of the ghost, and maybe increase the duration of the speed buff from Wendy's potions on player ghosts. May have use.

4. No button to teleport you to the portal, or a touch stone you touched like in solo ds, or with meat effigies.

3. Can't haunt players. It would be funny to annoy them.

2. Can't go over cave gaps, makes traveling it really annoying, you can get stuck. But this combined with number 1...

1. Can't see in the dark. We should be able to see in the dark as a ghost. It is rather annoying and would be great quality of life.

5. The ghost are truly sometimes feeling ridiculously slow, indeed. Can be annoying when you have to travel across the WHOLE world

4. there is one for the meat effigies as far as I know, but not for anything else, which is a bit annoying, yes.

3. THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN MISSING!!!!

2. silly ghost can't do ghost stuff is silly

1. SILLY GHOST IS HANDICAPPED BY DARKNESS IS SILLY!

[Mike23Ua]

3 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

There is a button to teleport and use your meat effigy from anywhere.

Okay but… in solo DS all a player had to do was walk past and “Activate” a Touch Stone in order to respawn back at its location should they happen to “kick the bucket & go toes up” 

However in DST, Touch Stones can not be activated like this (I assume it was a issue with Klei not being able to register them to whoever touched them) and instead, these stones only activate if you boringly float to and activate them by haunting them.

I don’t have very much experience with Meat Effigy’s, in fact I beat the entirety of solo DS & DST unlocking all achievements having never once crafted a single one of them.. but I do have experience with the touchstones (in both solo DS & DST)

And I simply don’t like the way it works in DST..

I assume that Klei wanted us to spend time floating around as a ghost (it drains sanity of all living players) to heavily encourage reviving them with a telltale heart.

The Issue with that however is that I have to stop everything I’m doing then search all over the map to find said dead player and revive them.

Its simply not fun, and this is THE Definitive new player experience, their playtime will largely be spent dying and floating about as a Dead Ghost. 

[Reiko24]

6 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Okay but… in solo DS all a player had to do was walk past and “Activate” a Touch Stone in order to respawn back at its location should they happen to “kick the bucket & go toes up” 

However in DST, Touch Stones can not be activated like this (I assume it was a issue with Klei not being able to register them to whoever touched them) and instead, these stones only activate if you boringly float to and activate them by haunting them.

I don’t have very much experience with Meat Effigy’s, in fact I beat the entirety of solo DS & DST unlocking all achievements having never once crafted a single one of them.. but I do have experience with the touchstones (in both solo DS & DST)

And I simply don’t like the way it works in DST..

I assume that Klei wanted us to spend time floating around as a ghost (it drains sanity of all living players) to heavily encourage reviving them with a telltale heart.

The Issue with that however is that I have to stop everything I’m doing then search all over the map to find said dead player and revive them.

Its simply not fun, and this is THE Definitive new player experience, their playtime will largely be spent dying and floating about as a Dead Ghost. 

You started talking about Touch Stones when I said something about Meat Effigies. Not relevant. The fact that I did not say anything about Touch Stones should tell you that I agree with this.

[Bumber64]

14 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said:

A portal teleport would be way too much, you might as well just instantly respawn at that point and nobody would bother with telltale hearts anymore since those give you a max health penalty and cost HP to make.

Postern also lowers max health. What's important is where you're respawning, and your stuff happens to be near your corpse.

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4: I don't actually think touch stones should get a teleport. If you haven't taken measures to account for dying (such as a meat effigy or a life-giving amulet), you should have to either get revived by someone else or slowly float your way over to a touch stone. They're free, so they shouldn't be great.

Each player can only use each touch stone once. There's one per shard. Do this twice and you're done with touch stones for the rest of your playthrough.

(I made a mod that lets you recharge them with life-giving amulets. There's no real reason to not just revive yourself with the amulet, other than the free marble and NMF that spawns. I'd've limited that if I could be bothered to.)

14 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

However in DST, Touch Stones can not be activated like this (I assume it was a issue with Klei not being able to register them to whoever touched them) and instead, these stones only activate if you boringly float to and activate them by haunting them.

They keep track of the player ids that have been revived at them. There's no reason they couldn't have been given a second list for activation.

[Evelo]

If playing on an Endless World, 100% teleporting to the florid postern should be possible imo. Meat effigies work for teleporting as a ghost. Lastly bring a lifegiving amulet to avoid the nasty consequences of death. (Yes it is annoying but it is a thing, lastly farming Red Gems can be pretty easy later in the game, early on yeah it's pretty scarce but it is revival, quite powerful.)

[Jakepeng99]

15 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said:

portal teleport would be way too much, you might as well just instantly respawn at that point and nobody would bother with telltale hearts anymore since those give you a max health penalty and cost HP to make.

Thats if you play endless mode instead of survival, and you still have to walk all the way back to get your items VS someone resurrecting you near them.

15 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said:

don't think the base ghost speed should change since death should be a punishment for mistakes,

I always find it annoying to follow players with speed buffs.

15 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said:

It wouldn't be too funny for the player being annoyed to be directly haunted, and this'd be a pretty easy griefing method. 

The only thing it does is give them a ghost effect on there body. Ngl i put this here because i wanted a top 5 instead of a top 4.

15 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said:

I'm on the fence about this. It'd be fair enough in the caves since you've got no way to see where you're going, but on the surface, it's light out more often than it isn't. Then again, some people play nighttime-only worlds. 

Having nightvision on a ghost doesnt make anything op and only makes being dead more fun so i dont see any reason why not to add it, only big reasons to add it.

14 hours ago, Reiko24 said:

There is a button to teleport and use your meat effigy from anywhere.

Yes there is. In DS it does it automatically, in dst there is a button.

[Reiko24]

Also, why bother making the Ghost's experience more enjoyable? Reviving in itself is very easy now. You should not be encouraged to die on purpose. Making Ghosts obnoxious and unfun to play is a countermeasure, making players want to avoid death even more.

 

[Jakepeng99]

4 hours ago, Reiko24 said:

Also, why bother making the Ghost's experience more enjoyable? Reviving in itself is very easy now. You should not be encouraged to die on purpose. Making Ghosts obnoxious and unfun to play is a countermeasure, making players want to avoid death even more.

 

What???!

How does it make us want to die on purpouse? How is this encouraging us to make ourselves ghosts?

 

[gaymime]

....i like the ghost stuff though? like, me and torturing pigs are bffs and i wont say no to rerolling on redcaps

 

better night glow would be nice though! just baaaarely enough to ward of charlie would be hella boss

[DegenerateFurry]

2 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said:

What???!

How does it make us want to die on purpose? How is this encouraging us to make ourselves ghosts?

 

Being dead with night vision and the ability to cross gaps would unironically be the most efficient way to explore the caves. You could just float around until you find everything useful, not caring about hopping gaps to do so. 

[NPCMaxwell]

1 minute ago, DegenerateFurry said:

Being dead with night vision and the ability to cross gaps would unironically be the most efficient way to explore the caves. You could just float around until you find everything useful, not caring about hopping gaps to do so. 

Ghost exploration isn't "registred" by the map though so I don't know if it would be THAT popular to be done by every player.

[DegenerateFurry]

Just now, NPCMaxwell said:

Ghost exploration isn't "registred" by the map though so I don't know if it would be THAT popular to be done by every player.

 I mean, yeah, not everyone would do it, but you could still find noteworthy things like where Toadstool is or where the ruins start more quickly than you otherwise would be able to.

[NPCMaxwell]

2 minutes ago, DegenerateFurry said:

 I mean, yeah, not everyone would do it, but you could still find noteworthy things like where Toadstool is or where the ruins start more quickly than you otherwise would be able to.

OK I see that. Maybe then ghosts should only get limited light [bit more then now, less then nightvision] and NOT float over gaps in the caves then. I just have trouble with eyestrain when floating around almost blind in caves which would be nice to see just a little bit more. [Not everything, just maybe twice as much as regular ghost-light]

[DegenerateFurry]

4 minutes ago, NPCMaxwell said:

OK I see that. Maybe then ghosts should only get limited light [bit more then now, less then nightvision] and NOT float over gaps in the caves then. I just have trouble with eyestrain when floating around almost blind in caves which would be nice to see just a little bit more. [Not everything, just maybe twice as much as regular ghost-light]

That'd be fair, yeah. 

[Jakepeng99]

1 hour ago, DegenerateFurry said:

Being dead with night vision and the ability to cross gaps would unironically be the most efficient way to explore the caves. You could just float around until you find everything useful, not caring about hopping gaps to do so. 

It wont explore the map.

[BalkanCockroach]

Don't die then. Seriously 2. really needs to change.

[A random guy]

59 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

It wont explore the map.

still would be better than being blind on caves or night

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, DegenerateFurry said:

Being dead with night vision and the ability to cross gaps would unironically be the most efficient way to explore the caves. You could just float around until you find everything useful, not caring about hopping gaps to do so. 

I mean.. you can also just run in one direction to find things, die.. roll the world back and know what’s in that direction.. I’ve actually done this before on discovering my game worlds ocean lay out:

I don’t think that being a ghost and floating about would be much different.

As a ghost, and after roll back the map doesn’t update to areas you’ve been to, but if you have a phone you can always do like the above and screen capture.

PC players can use admin commands to reveal their map layout, so this “cheat” really only helps console players.

[A random guy]

4 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

I mean.. you can also just run in one direction to find things, die.. roll the world back and know what’s in that direction.. I’ve actually done this before on discovering my game worlds ocean lay out:

I don’t think that being a ghost and floating about would be much different.

As a ghost, and after roll back the map doesn’t update to areas you’ve been to, but if you have a phone you can always do like the above and screen capture.

PC players can use admin commands to reveal their map layout, so this “cheat” really only helps console players.

love the emojis for the locations

[Well-met]

if only there was a day one structure that teleports you to it and that never spoils

[GimplyGoose]

14 hours ago, Bumber64 said:

Each player can only use each touch stone once. There's one per shard. Do this twice and you're done with touch stones for the rest of your playthrough

 

If you swap characters with celestial portal (even into the same character) it refreshes your touchstones.