Toadstool should drop a lot more Toad skins and Napsack should be an open craft for anyone and other ideas I've thought in like 5 mins

[Frosty_Mentos]

One thing about the boss is that fighting it is an extreme drag, and what we should be fighting for is the lamps and maybe some additional other item we could get from it.

Fighting for it's skins is not really worth it either since we can just duplicate it easier and the only use for those is either the suppression bombs that are very too lategame to be anywhere useful at all, the lamps only become great when killing Celestial Champion multiple times and thirdly toad is a challenge but an extreme drag to fight.

These are my ideas for how it could make actually a considerable fight. More skins for that he's MASSIVE to make people consider fighting him for the minimum of making sleep bombs and for late game he would actually be more relevant to make Constant into your big towns or whatever.

For another item he could have a craft is a different kind of composter where everything rots faster, or even upgrades to mushroom farms to survive in Winter or something.

As a concept I think napsack is a great item, it is a panflute alternative but getting more of them is not really feasible without putting too much effort, time and resources into them.

[abrocator]

I agree but keep in mind that I never fight him in my solo worlds. (People can disregard this comment based on that or think that this proves the point of the original post.)

[Frosty_Mentos]

Just now, abrocator said:

I agree but keep in mind that I never fight him in my solo worlds. (People can disregard this comment based on that or think that this proves the point of the original post.)

I do him probably last boss in solo cause there's no point or reason to kill until much later in the game. He doesn't provide much back compared to the resources and time have to be put in to kill him. Napsack being the Misery Toad drop is a depressing drop just to dupe skins. It's great for duping but turns Toad into not relevant boss anymore.

[Mr.Oshiro]

To be honest, crafts related to toads are frustrating except for lamps.They need QOL, at least they have some good uses.
Let the mushroom hat allow you to make mushtrees. You can plant mushroom spores on the old trees to turn them into new mushtrees, and when wearing the mushroom hat, the surrounding small mushrooms will emerge from the ground at any time.

There is a big difference between Napsack and panpipes. From the beginning of the game, you can find a free panpipe and several important materials for making panpipes, but the Napsack needs to be made by killing the Misery Toad. Even the hypnosis ability of Napsack is not as good as that of panpipes.
I hope there is some connection between Napsack and mushtrees. The sleep cloud generated by throwing Napsack can stimulate mushtrees to produce sleep cloud, which will continue to spread to surrounding mushtrees, forming a large sleep cloud area.

This hypnosis ability can only match its difficulty of acquisition. We can also plant mushtrees ourselves to create a propagation path for sleep cloud, which has more playability.

[arubaro]

Killing toad for just 3 skins is already sad but mysery dropping 5 is a joke

[somethin]

Make toad drop 5 skin and misery drop 10, then we can start talking. ATM there is no reason at all to go after him if you aren't going to megabase.

[Demigardenerner]

10 hours ago, arubaro said:

Killing toad for just 3 skins is already sad but mysery dropping 5 is a joke

I understand but that’s kinda the point of toadstool to be an annoying unnecessary drag of an fight for items only mega base builder use.its a joke boss thats why their item pool is kinda jokey with it dropping frog legs and other useless things especially misery it’s not meant to be a useful boss

[Jakepeng99]

15 hours ago, Frosty_Mentos said:

the lamps only become great when killing Celestial Champion multiple times

Lightbulbs last in lamps for a full season.

 

You just have to refill them every so often. Everyone acts like crown shards and lights are the only thing you can fill them with. They are so underrated.

[grm9]

1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said:

They are so underrated

no, stationary light's practically useless if you need to keep it up and can't quickly move it 

[arubaro]

4 hours ago, Demigardenerner said:

I understand but that’s kinda the point of toadstool to be an annoying unnecessary drag of an fight for items only mega base builder use.its a joke boss thats why their item pool is kinda jokey with it dropping frog legs and other useless things especially misery it’s not meant to be a useful boss

I dont have problems with their loot, i enjoy it but i understand some people not liking it. There is no intention of making him annoying neither a joke boss (actually is on of the funnier and original fights) but there were a time when klei though darkness was something to be kept in the game so they made it hard to beat, now most of the updates have something with natural light or a new way to counter it so i hope they revisit how much skin that awesome boss drops

[Frosty_Mentos]

9 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Lightbulbs last in lamps for a full season.

 

You just have to refill them every so often. Everyone acts like crown shards and lights are the only thing you can fill them with. They are so underrated.

Yea and I hate that. Why? Cause I build massive bases. It's a hurdle to farm Celestial even with how amazing the nerfs of costs to get to him are now, but toad skins are another part of the struggle.

Endgame is closer to town and garden building than anything else too. Minor survival elements with struggle. Another choice is going to cheat I guess if annoyed enough of farming something, but that wouldn't feel satisfying tho, right?

[Captain_Rage]

When a boss has unremarkable loot and the boss makes for an intrinsic challenge: "make the loot better or fighting the boss is completely meaningless!!"

When a boss has remarkable loot and provides an intrinsic challenge: "don't gate-keep end-game items behind difficult bosses!!"

Even if Toadstool is a drag to fight alone and the loot is not the grandest I am happy the boss is there since it's the only boss left I have yet to learn how to beat on my own after many hours of playing.

[dst_lover]

 when you summon toadstool u hit that purple mushroom why does when he ide he does not drop that purple mushroom

[twitchgabo]

The only reason to fight mysery toadstool is to get the napsack recipe and then never have to bother fighting the toad again since we can get infinite skins as long as you have a deconstruction staff