Ugur01 Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 With the current update, wurt no longer loses her stats from her king in the cave. This is a great thing. With this change should come the merms that follow us underground. I would like to do ruins rush with Wurt's merms. I don't know why this topic is never talked about but I think it's important. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 Is a must for every follower but more for wurt, weeber and the fixed clockworks Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 Well as a compromise you could rush the ruins with mosquitos instead. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 Just build your Merm huts in the caves right next to the door and unless you have a crappy old PC, 5 seconds of loading later you’ll be in caves and recruit cave followers. I don’t think Klei wants to let Wurt and Webbers entirely large armies transition with them between shards, because it will severely lag and crash out the game. (It barely handles Willow with Enlarged Bernie and a bell bonded Beefalo) I think it’s logical for the player to be expected to have armies in both the caves and the surface to recruit separately. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popian Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 What has to be considered is what the houses will do. Will it spawn a new Merm, letting you dupe Merms for free or stop spawning them until the owner dies, making you hunt them down if they get lost? The skills work around that by giving you higher quality Merms so you can get by with fewer until you have passive/convenient setups. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 9 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Just build your Merm huts in the caves right next to the door and unless you have a crappy old PC, 5 seconds of loading later you’ll be in caves and recruit cave followers. I don’t think Klei wants to let Wurt and Webbers entirely large armies transition with them between shards, because it will severely lag and crash out the game. (It barely handles Willow with Enlarged Bernie and a bell bonded Beefalo) I think it’s logical for the player to be expected to have armies in both the caves and the surface to recruit separately. I have a Ryzen 5 4600H, 32GB RAM, GTX 1650 Ti, does not overheat so no thermal throttling (as if it were a possibility in a game like DST), I need to wait at least 20 seconds before I get loaded into an another shard. It's a nuisance. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastNleashed Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 9 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Just build your Merm huts in the caves right next to the door and unless you have a crappy old PC, 5 seconds of loading later you’ll be in caves and recruit cave followers. I don’t think Klei wants to let Wurt and Webbers entirely large armies transition with them between shards, because it will severely lag and crash out the game. (It barely handles Willow with Enlarged Bernie and a bell bonded Beefalo) I think it’s logical for the player to be expected to have armies in both the caves and the surface to recruit separately. If thats the case why Klei made new Chop/Pick Tools for Merms so we need to build even more Craftmerms or why Klei Give Wurt not so great Mosquitos? I mean just llook big bee bioms.. Servers are laggy as hell when you go there. But yes, now we even more laggy as Wurt players. If we dont play alone on our own server but since its Don't Starve TOGETHER Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 2 hours ago, Reiko24 said: I have a Ryzen 5 4600H, 32GB RAM, GTX 1650 Ti, does not overheat so no thermal throttling (as if it were a possibility in a game like DST), I need to wait at least 20 seconds before I get loaded into an another shard. It's a nuisance. That won't mean much to him, but yeah I agree its quite a bit of a load - older game though, I imagine the code needs a min to run it's initial scripts 11 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Just build your Merm huts in the caves right next to the door and unless you have a crappy old PC, 5 seconds of loading later you’ll be in caves and recruit cave followers. I don’t think Klei wants to let Wurt and Webbers entirely large armies transition with them between shards, because it will severely lag and crash out the game. (It barely handles Willow with Enlarged Bernie and a bell bonded Beefalo) I think it’s logical for the player to be expected to have armies in both the caves and the surface to recruit separately. That's not quite what's happening Mike. By logical you mean possible, it would be logical that Merms could follow us into shards. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 5 hours ago, BeastNleashed said: or why Klei Give Wurt not so great Mosquitos? I mean just llook big bee bioms.. Servers are laggy as hell when you go there. Skeeter bomb slander! After all the changes they're actually really good. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastNleashed Posted June 24, 2024 Share Posted June 24, 2024 On 6/23/2024 at 5:07 PM, Mysterious box said: Skeeter bomb slander! After all the changes they're actually really good. Well for what? For lagging? For even more followers? For even more Ressource Waste? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfroyobro9381 Posted June 24, 2024 Share Posted June 24, 2024 I don't have an issue with this... as long as it doesn't affect performance too heavily. Idk how shards work, but Klei seems to restrict equipment, followers, Maxwell's hat, having chester and hutch, etc, to not transfer between shards. If Klei didn't make it an option it's probably because of performance and not balance. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 24, 2024 Share Posted June 24, 2024 20 minutes ago, BeastNleashed said: Well for what? For lagging? For even more followers? For even more Ressource Waste? I mean now that they are properly programmed it's a ranged weapon that deals up to 281 damage per bomb and it's a alternative follower type that is more portable than merms that are better at busting up hordes safely while I wouldn't recommend using them together they're great for situations where merms aren't as convenient. Also they create a feedback loop that makes them progressively easier to amass. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastNleashed Posted June 24, 2024 Share Posted June 24, 2024 Well yes the "Feedback Loop" which you said was really good, i had so many Mosquito sacks when they died again haha. Lets see if they is a "mute Mosquito" Mod Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 25, 2024 Share Posted June 25, 2024 1 hour ago, BeastNleashed said: Well yes the "Feedback Loop" which you said was really good, i had so many Mosquito sacks when they died again haha. Lets see if they is a "mute Mosquito" Mod They drop a sack when they successfully explode as well and you not liking the sound isn't relevant to their usefulness it feels like your just looking for reasons to hate it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corn072 Posted June 25, 2024 Share Posted June 25, 2024 I completely agree. But what happens if you leave the merm in the cave? Both having a new merm spawn in the house or continuing to wait will lead to strange results. In fact, the problem of merms losing their homes is less known than its severity. A merm that is too far away from home will try to get home, but if the player is not around, no interaction will occur, so it will never get there. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1728970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastNleashed Posted June 25, 2024 Share Posted June 25, 2024 12 hours ago, Mysterious box said: They drop a sack when they successfully explode as well and you not liking the sound isn't relevant to their usefulness it feels like your just looking for reasons to hate it. Well and it feels like you just persuade. Buffing Merms more and more, so why you would now also need tons of Mosquitos? and they not got if they just a few. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1729051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 25, 2024 Share Posted June 25, 2024 6 hours ago, corn072 said: I completely agree. But what happens if you leave the merm in the cave? Both having a new merm spawn in the house or continuing to wait will lead to strange results. In fact, the problem of merms losing their homes is less known than its severity. A merm that is too far away from home will try to get home, but if the player is not around, no interaction will occur, so it will never get there. They fixed this long ago actually the game will track the time it would have taken to get back unloaded and if they stay that way in that time they'll spawn back home. This was fixed during Wurt's mini refresh where she got a lot of quality of life and new upgrades during Wickerbottom's re fresh. 36 minutes ago, BeastNleashed said: Well and it feels like you just persuade. Buffing Merms more and more, so why you would now also need tons of Mosquitos? and they not got if they just a few. I'll just leave it here I don't think our conversation is accomplishing anything. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1729057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmAFurrz Posted June 25, 2024 Share Posted June 25, 2024 On 6/23/2024 at 5:56 AM, arubaro said: Is a must for the fixed clockworks please please pleeeeeaaase make the clockwork followers not turn on you the moment you leave the caves Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1729077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 +1 for merm caveportation also +1 for log out with merms/spiders with you like beefalo Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157440-the-beta-should-not-end-before-this-change-comes/#findComment-1729339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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