Sesekriri Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 1 hour ago, DegenerateFurry said: Wurt players are only playing her because she has the cutest skins. I main Wurt but I think she has some of the most garbage skins ever. I don't want to look like a monster! Or completely transform my appearance into a completely different visual design. Only Victorian and Verdant are any good. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1727915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 6 minutes ago, Sesekriri said: I main Wurt but I think she has some of the most garbage skins ever. I don't want to look like a monster! Or completely transform my appearance into a completely different visual design. Only Victorian and Verdant are any good pretty sure that these aren't supposed to make any sense, obviously all of them aren't true Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1727916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotheran Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 2 hours ago, Mysterious box said: -snip- To be fair i am not at all familiar with most of the character reworks, I've only played wendy and wx sofar in DST. I have watched a few overviews of the reworks and while webber seems like a much stronger powerhouse than he used to be I still say spiders are squishy enough in general that the horde size doesn't matter much especially on anything with AoE or large group agro mechanics like pigmen, bunnymen and beefalo. So like 80% of the fighting you'll ever do in DST. Ontop of that while common spiders are plentiful specialized ones are not, and the switcher doodles don't look cheap and require befriending one of each spider every new world, which gates webber from healers for at least a few days before a spiderqueen can even spawn, i'm aware he can rush that a bit by manually upgrading a nest to T3 but he still has to wait however long it takes for the T3 to become a queen, then fight it which I'm not sure how reworked spider followers handle that, I remember in solo befriended spiders sometimes get their loyalty superseded by the queen. Mind you that also means getting a healer to spawn and survive the fight as well. So in general quite a lot of work. given loyal mermguards recieve 460 additional health and boosted damage i figure one mermguard is worth at least 50 of webbers common spiders, maybe 20 warriors or spitters, even with strategically disengaging your spiders. Plus most of those benefits can be usually found in other ways for other characters, get any character a beefalo and armor becomes a relative non-issue but some characters are best with armor on foot. Walter has his portable tents and better tent efficiency where webbers T3 nests have similar stats to a grass roll iirc. Did they change webbers diet, i remember he doesn't take monster food penalties but last i checked he still was effected by raw meat and spoilage penalties. But monster food penalties are minor in the grand scheme of things unless your character has abysmally low sanity or health. (wes) And woodie, wolfgang and wilson all recieve insulation bonuses for winter as well. Wilsons is even stronger than webbers so its a really weird point of comparison to include it in a list of why webber is more broken than the Royal Wurt-ish Empire. 3 hours ago, D_Good_Fellow said: Woodie - You like chaos. Is this why i got kicked from that server the other day? What does woodie bring to the table that equates to chaos, he isn't even solo woodie who can just go full ham on beaver mode and just destroy a whole forest without changing back for 5 days straight. I would have figured willows or wes' to be trolls. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1727979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 16 minutes ago, Gotheran said: To be fair i am not at all familiar with most of the character reworks, I've only played wendy and wx sofar in DST. I have watched a few overviews of the reworks and while webber seems like a much stronger powerhouse than he used to be I still say spiders are squishy enough in general that the horde size doesn't matter much especially on anything with AoE or large group agro mechanics like pigmen, bunnymen and beefalo. So like 80% of the fighting you'll ever do in DST. Ontop of that while common spiders are plentiful specialized ones are not, and the switcher doodles don't look cheap and require befriending one of each spider every new world, which gates webber from healers for at least a few days before a spiderqueen can even spawn, i'm aware he can rush that a bit by manually upgrading a nest to T3 but he still has to wait however long it takes for the T3 to become a queen, then fight it which I'm not sure how reworked spider followers handle that, I remember in solo befriended spiders sometimes get their loyalty superseded by the queen. Mind you that also means getting a healer to spawn and survive the fight as well. So in general quite a lot of work. given loyal mermguards recieve 460 additional health and boosted damage i figure one mermguard is worth at least 50 of webbers common spiders, maybe 20 warriors or spitters, even with strategically disengaging your spiders. Plus most of those benefits can be usually found in other ways for other characters, get any character a beefalo and armor becomes a relative non-issue but some characters are best with armor on foot. Walter has his portable tents and better tent efficiency where webbers T3 nests have similar stats to a grass roll iirc. Did they change webbers diet, i remember he doesn't take monster food penalties but last i checked he still was effected by raw meat and spoilage penalties. But monster food penalties are minor in the grand scheme of things unless your character has abysmally low sanity or health. (wes) And woodie, wolfgang and wilson all recieve insulation bonuses for winter as well. Wilsons is even stronger than webbers so its a really weird point of comparison to include it in a list of why webber is more broken than the Royal Wurt-ish Empire. Is this why i got kicked from that server the other day? What does woodie bring to the table that equates to chaos, he isn't even solo woodie who can just go full ham on beaver mode and just destroy a whole forest without changing back for 5 days straight. I would have figured willows or wes' to be trolls. Spiders nurses are avaliable from day one via a touch stone and 10 silk which you can use to force a queen spawn. Higher tier spiders have 400 hp each and nurses heal them for 150 at a time per nurse even most bosses struggle to deal over 150 damage to spiders between heals meaning spiders can solo most bosses with proper setups and management they can even fight fuel weaver and klaus without falling for the gimmick traps. The only boss that I can think that they can't fight is celestial champion as aoe bosses still need to beat their dps check to kill them so aoe means nothing in most cases. Also 10-12 spiders is generally enough to fight most bosses which isn't a big burden on servers. Spiders are only squishy if your inexperienced with Webber as often they're more durable then merms in combat scenarios. Also nurses heal Webber as well mostly removing the need for healing items. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1727988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotheran Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 Maybe but combat is only one component of Don't Starve, and seeing as wurt and webber are comperable in follower potential wurt still comes out way ahead for having much higher vital stats putting wolfgang, maxwell, and warly to shame, and still being very high pre-king buff. Not to mention all her other bonuses that make her a cake walk to play even without bothering with the merm colonization. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 14 hours ago, D_Good_Fellow said: ) Wurt - You're not here to make friends. You're here to win. Most people probably play her because she is cute and stuff because i see a lot of casuals play her. Merms and Wurt probably are one of, if not the most common dst related profile pictures. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deactive41year Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 2 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said: Most people probably play her because she is cute and stuff because i see a lot of casuals play her. Merms and Wurt probably are one of, if not the most common dst related profile pictures. Yeah same. Plus her cost to make more than the like, 3-5 leaky shacks worth of merms is quite high. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamePlayer42 Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 On 6/21/2024 at 12:20 PM, Gameplayer143 said: If a woodie player has the beaver slam skill enabled I immediately suspect they intend to use it for griefing the base. bruh Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeClops Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 talking pubs only, webbers are by far the most common pick by griefers, not exactly sure why. New players gravitate towards webber a lot too, alongisde Wilson and Wendy the most well intended seem to be wormwood, and the most experienced I would say Wanda. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 1 hour ago, BeeClops said: talking pubs only, webbers are by far the most common pick by griefers, not exactly sure why. New players gravitate towards webber a lot too, alongisde Wilson and Wendy the most well intended seem to be wormwood, and the most experienced I would say Wanda. Webbers are a common griefer pick because it's just stupidly easy to grief as him. You get a big spider army, go into base at night, surround people, and then use the Shoo Box. Depending on your spider choices, people can get stunlocked and the army will be nigh-unkillable. Experienced players with armor on might make it out or see it coming and avoid it, but it's an easy way to kill several newbies. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 17 hours ago, Gotheran said: Maybe but combat is only one component of Don't Starve, and seeing as wurt and webber are comperable in follower potential wurt still comes out way ahead for having much higher vital stats putting wolfgang, maxwell, and warly to shame, and still being very high pre-king buff. Not to mention all her other bonuses that make her a cake walk to play even without bothering with the merm colonization. The thing is a astronomical amount of time and effort is required to reach the point where you can do things like this it's like saying blowdarts are overpowered because you can melt bosses with them or the celestial crown is busted because it's a infinite light source that gives you a large passive sanity gain with additional bonus damage it ignores all the work it takes to reach that point work most people aren't even willing to put in. Compare that to Maxwell who has harvesting abilities superior to end game pre skill tree Wurt right off spawn or potiental combat ability rivaling or even sometimes surpassing Wolfgang at his peak alongside a whole list of other abilities or Wolfgang who has the damage of two characters right off spawn. Wurt enters the game with nothing she even has to find out where the swamp is to even get started at least Webber starts with a spider den and food to recruit them. Webber is comparable because he has something Wurt will never have with her followers control and that is very important in combat and the day to day. In addition Webber offers the most relaxed follower experience making him the best for short play sessions and longer chill playstyles. Also while his damage isn't on par with Wurt's his dps is definitely higher than Wolfgang's and Wanda's so it's not like he's in a bad spot damage wise either. 59 minutes ago, DegenerateFurry said: Webbers are a common griefer pick because it's just stupidly easy to grief as him. You get a big spider army, go into base at night, surround people, and then use the Shoo Box. Depending on your spider choices, people can get stunlocked and the army will be nigh-unkillable. Experienced players with armor on might make it out or see it coming and avoid it, but it's an easy way to kill several newbies. More dedicated griefers tend to pick Wickerbottom in my experience because people are not only more likely to tell a Wickerbottom where their base is but help her get the materials she needs to grief with and trust her alone with their base since they'll think she's just farming resources for them. Though in more recent times I don't really see other Wickerbottom players as much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 31 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: More dedicated griefers tend to pick Wickerbottom in my experience because people are not only more likely to tell a Wickerbottom where their base is but help her get the materials she needs to grief with and trust her alone with their base since they'll think she's just farming resources for them. Though in more recent times I don't really see other Wickerbottom players as much. Oh, don't get me wrong, Wickerbottom is absolutely the best at griefing. It's very easy to make On Tentacles just using whatever spots you find in the swamp due to merms killing tentacles, and spamming that in base at night is all you need to get several kills and turn the base into a minefield. If shadow magic exists, The End is Nigh! will let you set basically everything on fire (assuming there's no lightning rod), or you could lock the world in perpetual rain if Spring has happened once. All it takes to prevent people from ever reaching the shadow endgame is a single Lunar Grimoire used once per lunar cycle (right before the new moon). It's just that you see more griefers play Webber because he's more obviously able to do it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_Good_Fellow Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 On 6/21/2024 at 5:12 PM, Gotheran said: Is this why i got kicked from that server the other day? What does woodie bring to the table that equates to chaos, he isn't even solo woodie who can just go full ham on beaver mode and just destroy a whole forest without changing back for 5 days straight. I would have figured willows or wes' to be trolls. Chaos =/= trolling for me. The nature of Woodie's perks causes frequent chaotic situations for the player using him (forced transformations on full moons, limited restorative options when transformed, sudden stat drops, and increase treeguard spawn rate). It just seems like people playing as him have a high tolerance for sudden challenges compared to other players. I agree that Wes is probably the actual best for trolling, both for the balloon insanity and the fact that players are less likely to see it coming. I maintain that Willow is not actually that mechanically useful for trolling compared to other characters. Everyone can set fires; Willow is actually one of the few who can easily put them out. (Although her character's personality as an arsonist could still influence would-be trolls to pick her by association). On 6/22/2024 at 4:08 AM, Jakepeng99 said: Most people probably play her because she is cute and stuff because i see a lot of casuals play her. Merms and Wurt probably are one of, if not the most common dst related profile pictures. Except she's DLC, so to use her you have to have either played the game consistently for months to earn the spools, or spend additional cash on the game. Neither of those seem like things casual players would do imo. Like I said though, I don't take any of this very seriously. I don't think there's any actual way to player personality based on their characters alone. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 Webber & Wurt are always really angry, Woodie & Warly are usually awesome. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 so i don't play in the aggressive modes(generally stick to stuff like endless) so i get different griefer types(mostly casual or beginner griefers) so if i see a pair of wendys or a pair of wilsons come in together i am on high alert. i have not ever seen a griefer wicker or wes in my life and since the rework i have only seen maybe two webbers grief? willows usually get booted as soon as they get on so i have no idea if those are regulars or griefers and every woodie i have come across just wanted to goose up and find stuff gonna be legit though if a warly or wes comes in i feel super confident they know what they are doing. those are the flex guys 100% x''D Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardDuty Posted June 24, 2024 Share Posted June 24, 2024 Two out of three of Wortox, Webber, and Wurt's main characters are Furry. Webber and Wurt players on public servers often either class A griefers with a lot of time or having hearing issues because no matter what you say, they'll eventually crash the server with their YouTube-inspired army of 1000 mobs destroying bosses. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 24, 2024 Share Posted June 24, 2024 1 hour ago, GuardDuty said: Wurt's main characters are Furry But scales... Spoiler Tis a joke 1 hour ago, GuardDuty said: they'll eventually crash the server with their YouTube-inspired army of 1000 mobs destroying bosses. Could you introduce me to the person who makes enough merm houses to crash a public server I feel like that poor soul deserves a medal... That aside I do wish the game could handle spider hordes better without servers converting to slideshows. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardDuty Posted June 24, 2024 Share Posted June 24, 2024 9 hours ago, Mysterious box said: Could you introduce me to the person who makes enough merm houses to crash a public server I feel like that poor soul deserves a medal... Not when they farm spiders or logs with merms. This is mostly a problem on Klei servers. If one of these farms exists by the second Autumn, the server becomes unplayable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 25, 2024 Share Posted June 25, 2024 42 minutes ago, GuardDuty said: Not when they farm spiders or logs with merms. This is mostly a problem on Klei servers. If one of these farms exists by the second Autumn, the server becomes unplayable. in order to lag a server with merms you'd need around 100-300 and saying 100 is being generous as my computer doesn't start slowing down until around 200 merms I'm able merms to get that many houses assuming they are merm guards that's 1000 boards for 200 guards or 800 boards for normal merms that's an absurd amount of work for a person to put in even with merms and even then what in the world would a person need that many for that's console command levels of merms and I'd worry for that person's mental health at that point. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157371-what-character-stereotypes-do-you-have/page/2/#findComment-1728910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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