Wormboi Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 What things do you what to be changed or added to DST boats? (No you cant say, make them like shipwreck's) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowick Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 ooo! one thing I would really like is some sort of fishing net attachment for the boats, like a trawling net that glides behind your boat picking up kelp and maybe rarely a fish! One of my favorite niche things to do as Warly is see how long I can last with my portable crockpot on the ocean, and I'd love to see more ways to collect food out at sea! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copyafriend Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 i have a few ideas one: being able to raise/lower the anchor, sails, and winch from the steering wheel i dont care if requires an upgraded steering wheel, my QOL would skyrocket if i didnt have to GET OFF the steering wheel every time i want to speed up or slow down or stop in an emergency. two: binoculars ON the boat, lets other players look foward (not revealing the map, move the location their camera is centered on to search for stuff) rotates 360* three: for the love of god make those sails transparent when sailing. or make them turn into stumps while sailing so i can see what is behind them. incredibly frustrating to try to interact with boat stuff when the sail is SO BIG Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 19 minutes ago, Harrowick said: some sort of fishing net attachment for the boats, like a trawling net that glides behind your boat picking up kelp and maybe rarely a fish! So basically the trawl boat from SW. Which, yknow, not bad. Maybe it can pick up the debris in the ocean too. I'd like it if the SW encrusted/armored boat gimmick can be implemented onto the DST, since we all have suffered from those unexpected crashes into sea stacks unprompted and suffer the loss of the expensive shell bumpers/countless boat patches. Like make it an upgrade kinda thing. 11 minutes ago, Copyafriend said: requires an upgraded steering whee next band-aid fix from klei be like Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copyafriend Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, Anis5240 said: next band-aid fix from klei be like Okay do you hate the idea, do you like the idea, are you going to say ANYTHING about it? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 Just now, Copyafriend said: Okay do you hate the idea, do you like the idea, are you going to say ANYTHING about it? It's questionable at best. That's all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 I like that mod where you can make boat shapes whatever you want them to be. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copyafriend Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, Anis5240 said: It's questionable at best. That's all. Okay. Why? I would prefer CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. I am fine with you not liking my idea. but honestly the complete dismissal without reasons is unhelpful. do you LIKE getting off the steering wheel to control stuff, would you prefer if it was a baseline ability without an "upgrade" (which I was saying that I want the feature, and I don't care how I get it, I wasn't actually suggesting it be an upgrade) do you think the multiplayer aspect is integral to the sailing experience. reasons please. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBowers Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 Everything being separate is probably meant to invoke the whole 'crew working together to pilot a ship' vibe, but I wouldnt mind a steering wheel upgrade for solo players. Maybe it could be something malbatross or crab king drops, or something. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted June 4, 2024 Author Share Posted June 4, 2024 10 minutes ago, GreenBowers said: Everything being separate is probably meant to invoke the whole 'crew working together to pilot a ship' vibe, but I wouldnt mind a steering wheel upgrade for solo players. Maybe it could be something malbatross or crab king drops, or something. It could be something you can trade for from sharkboi. I know he can use more trading items. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 Just now, Copyafriend said: would prefer CONSTRUCTIVE criticism I think we all can agree that most stuff Klei did in recent times are just to fix the problems they first come up with. Again, yknow, not bad, but the execution kinda stinks. Like Woodie's full moon/moonstorm transformation got removed via the lunar affinity and now he's just Wilson+. An improved steering wheel would be fine, but like what else can it do? What other possible things that can be added to make the upgrade worthwhile other than just "i'm so frustrated by this whole boating mechanic that klei made in the first place"? Sure, I hate the sailing but I hate the rowing more. At least with sailing, it's more or less a cheap version of the SW boats. Arrow keys/WASD is much nicer to do and use than spamming right click for rowing, up to the point where people would rather depend on the auto-rowing mod because that's how mind-numbing rowing is. And it's not like you can't rotate your camera to see whatever is around/you missed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copyafriend Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 1 minute ago, Anis5240 said: An improved steering wheel would be fine, but like what else can it do? What other possible things that can be added to make the upgrade worthwhile other than just "i'm so frustrated by this whole boating mechanic that klei made in the first place"? alright, lets brainstorm, what ELSE should this new steering wheel do, maybe make sails turn faster? that'd be pretty nice. Maybe it could also raise/lower everything as fast as 2 players. what would you want it to do? this thread is for suggestions, what do you think would make it less frustrating? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotheran Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 I suggested at one point a "crows nest" mast attachment that would function like that new headpiece item they added in the scrap update that zooms out the camera, it would be useful especially with multiple people for navigation. They could stand to add more boats and boat accessories as well, perhaps a moonglass boat, lower durability than the wood, non flamable, but has lower drag making it accelerate up to speed faster and maybe even have a higher top speed. Oar mounts for oar storage/easier paddling. Floating storage bins that survive the boat collapsing saving any items that would otherwise sink, or heavy duty containers that do sink but can be retrieved with a winch. A broken shell boat thats very fragile but can deal raming damage? Palmcone boat armor. A mushroom boat that self repairs leaks but decays over time. Alternate boat patches, maybe one made of honey that melts when it gets hot making it a non permenant but easily renewable fix. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 5 minutes ago, Copyafriend said: what would you want it to do Well, if I am to be honest, there's nothing really cool that can be done with a steering wheel. Its purpose is just that: to steer. If I say adding a brake mechanic to it, well too bad; the anchor is already there. But I also don't like how one item just serves one purpose, as seen with many new items we got by now. So let's go with the brake. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted June 4, 2024 Author Share Posted June 4, 2024 This is gonna sound dumb but maybe a giant fan you can put on your boat to make it like a motor boat? Idk Im spitbaling. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 24 minutes ago, Copyafriend said: do you think the multiplayer aspect is integral to the sailing experience clearly klei felt that way so lel 1 minute ago, Wormboi said: a giant fan Luxury Fan could have a special interaction with the sails lol. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted June 4, 2024 Author Share Posted June 4, 2024 7 minutes ago, Anis5240 said: clearly klei felt that way so lel Luxury Fan could have a special interaction with the sails lol. no Im talking like one of those small box fans that you see at stores but big enough so it makes your boat go really fast. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 7 minutes ago, Wormboi said: no Im talking like one of those small box fans that you see at stores but big enough so it makes your boat go really fast. Sorry, but I can't conjure the mental image of this. Care to show one? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gashzer Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 I second the upgraded steering wheel. A magical wheel enchanted with lunar magic to control all aspects of your boat- anchor, masts maybe even cannons. Could be a drop from crab king to encourage us to fight him sooner? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rage Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 The Nautopilot and Nautopilot Beacon could definitely use some love. Not exactly sure what that would be but currently it's too unruly to practically use in many cases since it cannot keep up with the target when it goes even at a moderate speed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortalbane Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 11 hours ago, Wormboi said: (No you cant say, make them like shipwreck's) I can't not say it =) DST boats are too small for all the stuff going on. They should be bigger and/or have connectors, allowing to make even bigger base-boats. True multiplayer stuff Small personal ships from SW can (and i think should) be introduced, not to replace cookie platforms, but to compliment them. Bigger cookie boats can have "lifeboat dock" attachment to hold smaller personal boats. Also great for solo players. 10 hours ago, Harrowick said: one thing I would really like is some sort of fishing net attachment It's nice, but they already have complexified fishing mechanic and winch, i'd rather like them to make those two work 10 hours ago, Copyafriend said: being able to raise/lower the anchor, sails, and winch from the steering wheel DST cookie boats are about crew, personally i don't want it changed. Better add some solo-player crew, like pirate monkeys 10 hours ago, Copyafriend said: binoculars ON the boat, lets other players look foward Yeah, spyglass or crow's nest. I really don't know why such things don't exist in DST yet. Alternative is to auto-zoom out the camera while you are behind the steering wheel. But this is more QoL than sailing immersion 10 hours ago, Copyafriend said: make those sails transparent when sailing I've been saying it all the time, like why do i have to build my sails on the upper part of the ship, instead of center where they belong. And even if i build those ugly nose-sails, one camera rotation and they are even uglier. I really want fixed mast slots in the center, and all sails stuff adjusted for that. 10 hours ago, Anis5240 said: I hate the sailing but I hate the rowing more. At least with sailing, it's more or less a cheap version of the SW boats. Arrow keys/WASD is much nicer to do and use than spamming right click for rowing, up to the point where people would rather depend on the auto-rowing mod 10 hours ago, Gotheran said: Oar mounts for oar storage/easier paddling Yes, oar mounts, so that when you are using it, you character auto-rows. Also nerf oars, how can they easily replace sails? Give oar buffs only to Wolfgang via skills, if oars can be better than sails, it's only in his hands. 10 hours ago, Gotheran said: Palmcone boat armor. Better rockjaw armor 10 hours ago, Gotheran said: Floating storage bins that survive the boat collapsing saving any items that would otherwise sink, or heavy duty containers that do sink but can be retrieved with a winch. 10 hours ago, Anis5240 said: Luxury Fan could have a special interaction with the sails Nice Well, you guys named pretty much all i wanted from boats Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 9 hours ago, Gashzer said: I second the upgraded steering wheel. A magical wheel enchanted with lunar magic to control all aspects of your boat- anchor, masts maybe even cannons. Could be a drop from crab king to encourage us to fight him sooner? What if instead of a band aid the made it so we can control other staff while we steer if is close enough? Anyways, i think people need some practice and agility, isnt that hard to control a boat... but requires mouse skill and reflex, thing that was never require in the game... Basically a "git gud" scenario. Pretty rare in this game lately I only want less fragile boats (they dont havr much hp) but is something that migh come with the new ancient boat, maybe faster turning (thing that isnt a problem with practice) and improved autopilots. I love nautopilots but since the addition of bootlegs i dont have a reason to use them since i only use them to make secondary cargo boats to fill them with nuts and sunken chests Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 new shapes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 I have a few ideas for improvements: - Sails getting buffed - I play with the sailing rebalance mod and WOW is it better, in the base game they barely do a thing. I think buffing them would do good for the boat economy. - Cannonballs and Cannon buff- Their price is not worth the damage they deal, along with the fact that they are hard to aim on moving targets. Maybe they could get an increased explosion range, along with controlling how far it lands? - Deck illuminator - I think the easiest solution to making this a viable thing over the thunder rod is giving it the ability to scare off mobs, while this is niche, it could have use if you're not into getting interrupted by rockjaws. - A harpoon for pulling in enemies and items - Basically, it would deal about 10 damage to mobs and pull them toward the boat (Perhaps even getting them stuck, hitting them would free them.) It would also have a secondary function of catching items and destroying sea stacks (At the cost of durability?) This would make ocean traveling less tedious since you wouldn't have to paddle over to things 10 meters away from you. Thoughts? 10 hours ago, Gotheran said: They could stand to add more boats and boat accessories as well, perhaps a moonglass boat, lower durability than the wood, non flamable, but has lower drag making it accelerate up to speed faster and maybe even have a higher top speed. Yeah trading off health for speed would perfectly fit risk and reward, would also give the lunar island something related to boat travel (which other biomes love to do.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156507-better-dst-boats/#findComment-1719319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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