Why do you consider DST a sequel ?

[Hungry French]

1.Why do you consider DST a sequel ? ( If in lore and gameplay it is not a continuation of lonely survival idea )

2.Why is DST not a spinoff ?

3.How many more years will Together be supported in your opinion ?

4.Do you think DS and RoG lack uniqueness?

5.Do you think it's wrong that DS is undeservedly forgotten?

6.Do you agree that DST is a sequel even if it didn't have multiplayer and lore?

6.What prevents Klei from making DS 2 in future ?

7.What could DS 2 be like ? A brand new game or a collection of DS and DST content ?

8.What could be the plot of DS 2 ?

9.Do you support the idea of skins appearing in DS 2 ? And turning the game into a game service?

[Well-met]

1. because klei literally says it is

2. that's a term for television shows, not games

3. as long as klei feels like it

4. literally shipwrecked and hamlet

5. it's not

6. no.

7. dst is ds2

8. dst

9. dst

10. it kinda is already

[JustAFlower]

Alright, it's the edgy flower vs the anime twitter user

Community of the starvers, wish me luck. 

1. Klei said so, and when you create a game it doesn't mean that it should stay the same forever, they just added multiplayer.

2.DST is not a spinoff because of what I said above, and the lore and many elements matches

3.Honestly don't know, it will come to an end probably.

4.Nah it's fine.

5. Not really, it's an old game, I'm sad too but we have DST to carry the franchise and it's fine really.

6.DS 2 is DST, but if there will be solo DS sequel, that would be a weird choice. Don't think it will happen in 20 years.

7.Only the future will tell, Klei can do what they want after all.

8.AGAIN IDK STOP. The survivors will break time and space with shadow and lunar creatures ? Idk

9.It's a game service (kind of)because if you don't know, there are people who need money to live behind these forums. And the prices are too cheap like, what, just take my money you deserve it Klei, YOU ALSO RHYME WITH PLAY.

Also is the you (in the title) targeted to me mostly, bcz I'm flattered.

[Uedo]

1. Because in both the real world and the constant it was a new project that followed the previous iteration and continued the ongoing story-beats.

2. Because it still contains the same characters and storyline, with the same mechanics and concepts but expanded. The story has a loose concept of linearity and it has continued down a direction with essentially the same antagonist (not charlie).

3. No idea, a while I hope. I have no inside knowledge of how long they want to continue the project.

4. Not really, but I get the point I think you're trying to make, truthfully - yeah I get that DST is just multiplayer DS with more content, it's true but I don't feel too bad about that. DS has it's uniqueness for sure but if you own DS, outside of the DLC's, i'd say that you should probably not bother with it too much if at all.

5. No. Move on or enjoy the game yourself and stop posting on the DST forums about DS.

6. Nothing, in the grand scheme of things but who knows how they feel overall? Ask them and maybe they'll tell you, no idea though.

7. No idea, i'd prefer the same stylisation for sure, i'd probably like a game engine improvement - maybe the code can be tidied, things like shards shouldn't be a thing (im not technical in that sense so i'm probably talking from ignorance here). Obviously a different narrative. I'd like it to look the same though, love the art style Klei takes with all of their games, DS being a favourite.

8. Dunno, Considering the gorge/forge/shipwrecked/hamlet exist - perhaps seeing how other areas of the universe outside of the real world look in the DS universe. Not a clue though, I don't do game design.

9. Skins are absolutely fine, maybe increase the price of purchase but not as a game service please

[JustAFlower]

Pls Hungry French mostly, mostly nobody is enjoying your replies and posts in these forums.

As a video game developer said :

"Haters are gonna hate, as they say […] they are the kinds of people who will go to the mall and scream in a pillow, they will get attention, but they won't change anything"

[Hungry French]

9 minutes ago, Well-met said:

1. because klei literally says it is

2. that's a term for television shows, not games

3. as long as klei feels like it

4. literally shipwrecked and hamlet

5. it's not

6. no.

7. dst is ds2

8. dst

9. dst

10. it kinda is already

1. What does it say here besides a sequel of sorts ? And why a sequel of sorts, and not a sequel. And what does Klei 's opinion matter ? ( they may call things wrong )

2. It is a term for television shows, games and books.How can you prove that this is not a spin-off?

3.Tell me the numbers or that you have no ideas.

4.This is dlc's, not a game. Do you think Shipwrecked and Hamlet are too small compared to Together? And is uniqueness needed for RoG and DS ?

5.Why not? Doesn't the almost complete end of support and the almost non-existent fan base videos, streams, online in game say that DST is forgotten? Then how can you describe the current state of fan base  DS and DST ?  ( Please tell us about each game separately )

6.What prevents Klei from making DS 2 in future ?

7.Why is DST not called DS 2 ?  What could DS 3 be like ? A brand new game or a collection of DS and DST content ? 

8.What could be the plot of DS 3\

9.Do you support the idea of skins appearing in DS 3 ? And turning the game into a game service?

10. it kinda is not already

 

[lowercase skye]

30 minutes ago, Well-met said:

2. that's a term for television shows, not games

silly thing to say. i don't think DST is a spin-off, but the term "spin-off" has absolutely been used for things other than television for like, forever.

[JustAFlower]

9 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

1. What does it say here besides a sequel of sorts ? And why a sequel of sorts, and not a sequel. And what does Klei 's opinion matter ? ( they may call things wrong )

Klei opinion doesn't matter... It's their game, they, do, the, florp, they want with it. HOW CAN YOU SAY THEIR OPINIONS DON'T MATTER.

Have a bad feeling that this post may be locked in a while.

[grm9]

1 hour ago, Hungry French said:

1.Why do you consider DST a sequel ? ( If in lore and gameplay it is not a continuation of lonely survival idea )

2.Why is DST not a spinoff ?

3.How many more years will Together be supported in your opinion ?

4.Do you think DS and RoG lack uniqueness?

5.Do you think it's wrong that DS is undeservedly forgotten?

6.Do you agree that DST is a sequel even if it didn't have multiplayer and lore?

6.What prevents Klei from making DS 2 in future ?

7.What could DS 2 be like ? A brand new game or a collection of DS and DST content ?

8.What could be the plot of DS 2 ?

9.Do you support the idea of skins appearing in DS 2 ? And turning the game into a game service?

1. what does that change

2. what does that change

3. what does that change, we don't know

4. what does that change, klei have already decided that 

5. what does that change, klei have already decided that 

6. what does that change

6. what does that change, we don't know, why did you put two 6.s 

7. what does that change, klei would decide that 

8. what does that change, klei would decide that 

9. what does that change, klei would decide that 

[Hungry French]

17 minutes ago, JustAFlower said:

1. Klei said so, and when you create a game it doesn't mean that it should stay the same forever, they just added multiplayer.

2.DST is not a spinoff because of what I said above, and the lore and many elements matches

3.Honestly don't know, it will come to an end probably.

4.Nah it's fine.

5. Not really, it's an old game, I'm sad too but we have DST to carry the franchise and it's fine really.

6.DS 2 is DST, but if there will be solo DS sequel, that would be a weird choice. Don't think it will happen in 20 years.

7.Only the future will tell, Klei can do what they want after all.

8.AGAIN IDK STOP. The survivors will break time and space with shadow and lunar creatures ? Idk

9.It's a game service (kind of)because if you don't know, there are people who need money to live behind these forums. And the prices are too cheap like, what, just take my money you deserve it Klei, YOU ALSO RHYME WITH PLAY.

1.You say it as if DST never came out and we all play DS 2013, which added multiplayer and make constant updates. Is not it so?

2.But the story and gameplay do not continue the idea of DS, but only create a new branch. Is not it so?

3.Is it bad or is it good? What are the pros and cons of this ?

4.How often do you choose DS or RoG instead of playing DST? Does it bother you that DST is 4 times more than DS and RoG and has more bugs and technical problems?

5.Is 3 years difference between games a lot ?  Can DST be considered a new game or old if it was released in 2016 ? 

6.It's called Don't Starve Together, not Don't Starve 2 and she's not a ideological  heir to DS. Is not it so?

7.Do you have any ideas?

8.You talk about DST... What could be the plot of DS 3 ?

9.Do you support the idea of skins appearing in DS 3 ? And turning the game into a game service?

42 minutes ago, JustAFlower said:

Alright, it's the edgy flower vs the anime twitter user

Community of the starvers, wish me luck. 

Anime flower twitter user vs anime twitter user.

43 minutes ago, JustAFlower said:

Also is the you (in the title) targeted to me mostly, bcz I'm flattered.

Well. Good.

[JustAFlower]

9 hours ago, Hungry French said:

1.You say it as if DST never came out and we all play DS 2013, which added multiplayer and make constant updates. Is not it so?

2.But the story and gameplay do not continue the idea of DS, but only create a new branch. Is not it so?

3.Is it bad or is it good? What are the pros and cons of this ?

4.How often do you choose DS or RoG instead of playing DST? Does it bother you that DST is 4 times more than DS and RoG and has more bugs and technical problems?

5.Is 3 years difference between games a lot ?  Can DST be considered a new game or old if it was released in 2016 ? 

6.It's called Don't Starve Together, not Don't Starve 2 and she's not a ideological  heir to DS. Is not it so?

7.Do you have any ideas?

8.You talk about DST... What could be the plot of DS 3 ?

9.Do you support the idea of skins appearing in DS 3 ? And turning the game into a game service?

1.What ? DST is litterally DS but multiplayer and more content balance and update magic, but not the same game like DS, DS have those amazing dlc's, DST has what I said a sentence earlier. I makes it a sequel still.

2. WHAT ?! IT LITTERALLY DOES ! Maxwell meets Wilson in the same world because they were both banished from the nightmare throne, it's not a new branch, and they teamed up, made the portal, other survivors, new reign of shadow queen, the moon had to react and broke a piece of itself, Wagstaff managed to make himself into a hologram, and now we have rifts. I have more details if you want

3.Bad and Good, things need to end, the cons will be that there won't be content updates anymore. Pros, many quality updates just like the one of DS (10 years)what a blast.

4. I don't play Don't Starve anymore so can't help ya with that pal. No, why should it bother me, and the technical problems is a massive iceberg coding part that I don't know about. Also Dragonfly coming in summer would break everyone in multiplayer.

5. In one year hundreds of games appears everywhere so yeah, 3 years can be a difference.

6.(Stop it with your Is not it so ooga booga) First, not all games need to slap a 2 next to the game name just to make it a sequel, it's ideological with all the elements I said about above CMON

7.Nah

8. There's no DS 3 if we don't pass through DST because it's a sequel (I know right ?!)

9. I mean, it's still the same system in DST i don't mind it, it's not expensive and Klei deserves more money.

I don't think I installed twitter, ngl.

BHAHAHAHA I JUST NOTICED THE TWO 6'S ABOVE

[Hungry French]

42 minutes ago, Uedo said:

1.Because in both the real world and the constant it was a new project that followed the previous iteration and continued the ongoing story-beats.

2. Because it still contains the same characters and storyline, with the same mechanics and concepts but expanded. The story has a loose concept of linearity and it has continued down a direction with essentially the same antagonist (not charlie).

3. No idea, a while I hope. I have no inside knowledge of how long they want to continue the project.

4. Not really, but I get the point I think you're trying to make, truthfully - yeah I get that DST is just multiplayer DS with more content, it's true but I don't feel too bad about that. DS has it's uniqueness for sure but if you own DS, outside of the DLC's, i'd say that you should probably not bother with it too much if at all.

5. No. Move on or enjoy the game yourself and stop posting on the DST forums about DS.

6. Nothing, in the grand scheme of things but who knows how they feel overall? Ask them and maybe they'll tell you, no idea though.

7. No idea, i'd prefer the same stylisation for sure, i'd probably like a game engine improvement - maybe the code can be tidied, things like shards shouldn't be a thing (im not technical in that sense so i'm probably talking from ignorance here). Obviously a different narrative. I'd like it to look the same though, love the art style Klei takes with all of their games, DS being a favourite.

8. Dunno, Considering the gorge/forge/shipwrecked/hamlet exist - perhaps seeing how other areas of the universe outside of the real world look in the DS universe. Not a clue though, I don't do game design.

9. Skins are absolutely fine, maybe increase the price of purchase but not as a game service please

1.But is it right that the game has changed its direction to a perfect other? Is it a good thing that DS stopped supporting too early?

2.But the main characters are different now, the antagonist is different (Maxwell is a background character), the mechanics are now for multiplayer and some have been removed due to their incompatibility with multiplayer, and the expansion corresponds to multiplayer solutions.

3.You can theoretically imagine the future of DST if you want.Is not it so? 

4.Does RoG have uniqueness? Don't you think there's too little content in Shipwrecked and Hamlet? Shouldn 't the DS have the same long late game like in DST ?

5.Why do you think DS is not a forgotten game ? Move ? Klei didn't build the road. Enjoy ?  DST not enjoyable game for me. Where should I make posts about DS ?

In the dead DS forums, where there is no one? (This post concerns both DS and DST. I can write it wherever I want)

6.How can I ask them about it ?

7.Why shouldn 't there be shards ? This will lead to the same poor optimization as in DST and to a reduced number of layers in the world. Shards vs servers ?

8.Does not forget about canon main island. DST generation not canon.

9.DST is alive only because it is a service game. DS shows what will happen to the game in a few years with a game that is not a game-service. if you want.Is not it so? 

1 hour ago, JustAFlower said:

"Haters are gonna hate, as they say […] they are the kinds of people who will go to the mall and scream in a pillow, they will get attention, but they won't change anything"

You my hater ? Isn 't there XD ?

37 minutes ago, grm9 said:

1. what does that change

2. what does that change

3. what does that change

4. what does that change

5. what does that change

6. why would they

6. why did you put two 6.s

7. it might not become a thing

8. it might not become a thing

9. it might not become a thing

1-5. The correct question is "Why are you interested in this?"

6.Off-topic question

7.Do such thoughts stop people in front of dreams and goals ?

8.Do such thoughts stop people in front of dreams and goals ?

9.Do such thoughts stop people in front of dreams and goals...

1 hour ago, JustAFlower said:

Klei opinion doesn't matter... It's their game, they, do, the, florp, they want with it. HOW CAN YOU SAY THEIR OPINIONS DON'T MATTER.

Have a bad feeling that this post may be locked in a while.

Because there are definitions of words. If you call the car like an apple. This is strange...

Goat Simulator 3 is named for a joke. Goat Simulaltor 2 has never been released.

Are Klei joking too ? And they are not sure that DST is a sequel. "Something like a sequel" is an uncertain statement.

[Evelo]

Seems like bait to me.

[Retepeter]

getting thread locked speedrun

[Yuuko]

11 minutes ago, Retepeter said:

getting thread locked speedrun

No, Guille owns the record for that.  He posted a thread once, and I got first or second reply I think... but it was locked right as I finished posting.  I received a warning, I'm pretty sure they did too... but it was worth it.

2 hours ago, Hungry French said:

1.Why do you consider DST a sequel ? ( If in lore and gameplay it is not a continuation of lonely survival idea )

 

imo DST is the evolution of DS.

DS was not a full enough game and adding things like Hamlet and Shipwrecked didn't improve it in the way it needed.  They were great experiences, but the portals between worlds caused a lot of theme-breaking havoc.  As a single player game it had limits in that a player can only play so long solo before they need something more.  Klei had to decide - what is the next "expansion" or rather monetizable direction for the game.

Multiplayer =>  Games with multiplayer have a much longer shelf life b/c spending time with friends is something that seldom gets old.  If the world is opened up to allow a lot of fun things to do together, and runs a "game as a service" model there can always be more things for friends to do together.

Divided expansions => are not the way to go.  The game is not delivering a single storyline, but more a sandbox to play in.  Adding new sandboxes doesn't build on the story of the first, if anything its more prone to contradictions.  The experiences are isolated, and the experience as a whole is isolated in single player.

The solution is to drive DST.  A multiplayer pseudo-sequel to the original game.  It recreates the elements that are loved from the original with a rebalance to open up space going forward.

I think Forge and Gorge were the nail in the coffin for spin offs.  They cost a lot to run and were not very profitable because they didn't fit the right monetization model.  People loved playing them, but they weren't places to keep playing endlessly like DST.

So now we have DST - which is THE DS game.  It is suitable for solo and multiplayer play, and endlessly replayable with the options available, and new content being added.l

You don't have DS anymore.  As fun as SW and Ham were, they didn't work as a way to grow the game.

2 hours ago, Hungry French said:

3.How many more years will Together be supported in your opinion ?

This depends on Klei.  If they are willing to re-write the engine at some point, they could continue DST on into perpetuity without needing to version the game into DST2.  League did this.  Its over 10 years old and has no "league 2" in sight because the makers were willing to rework the underlying code, and game play elements as needed to redefine the game as it went.  Aside from computers and other tech advances eclipsing the current game engine there is no reason the game couldn't be continually built and re-built to suit its needs.

[Valase]

This guy is good at rage baiting!

[Uedo]

1 hour ago, Hungry French said:

1.But is it right that the game has changed its direction to a perfect other? Is it a good thing that DS stopped supporting too early?

2.But the main characters are different now, the antagonist is different (Maxwell is a background character), the mechanics are now for multiplayer and some have been removed due to their incompatibility with multiplayer, and the expansion corresponds to multiplayer solutions.

3.You can theoretically imagine the future of DST if you want.Is not it so? 

4.Does RoG have uniqueness? Don't you think there's too little content in Shipwrecked and Hamlet? Shouldn 't the DS have the same long late game like in DST ?

5.Why do you think DS is not a forgotten game ? Move ? Klei didn't build the road. Enjoy ?  DST not enjoyable game for me. Where should I make posts about DS ?

In the dead DS forums, where there is no one? (This post concerns both DS and DST. I can write it wherever I want)

6.How can I ask them about it ?

7.Why shouldn 't there be shards ? This will lead to the same poor optimization as in DST and to a reduced number of layers in the world. Shards vs servers ?

8.Does not forget about canon main island. DST generation not canon.

9.DST is alive only because it is a service game. DS shows what will happen to the game in a few years with a game that is not a game-service. if you want.Is not it so? 

1. It's not really anything and I really don't think DS stopped receiving support too early - Someone has said this before to you but you know about the QOL it received.

2. This is the problem; I don't think you're listening to what people are saying. I wasn't talking about Maxwell either, it's not really your fault but I meant the overall antagonist of Them.

3. Sure. 

4. I mean, the gameplay feels very different in my opinion. I think i'm too used to DST to really want to go back to it though.

5. Because things change and people are allowed to move onto other things, nobody owes anybody anything.

6. Have you tried submitting a ticket? (If that's a valid option), you could always look for a public email address, social media etc.

7. I'm not a fan, Like i said though i'm talking from ignorance, there might very well be good reasons it should be that way. I'm open to them if it needs to be that way for performance etc.

8. I mean, it's not a very lore heavy game. I'm happy to be wrong here but i'm guessing you can't really support what you're saying in any compelling way - again though; If i'm wrong, i'm wrong.

9. Maybe I misunderstood, I thought you meant as a subscription or something. I don't mind how it functions I guess, you can play offline - i'd like that to still be a thing too.

5 minutes ago, Valase said:

This guy is good at rage baiting!

I don't know whether to take them seriously sometimes but, like, I just don't know how these are problems that you can/should solve. 

[Cheggf]

It continues the story after the conclusion of Don't Starve so it's a sequel. Simple as. 

[fabin]

3 hours ago, Hungry French said:

5.Do you think it's wrong that DS is undeservedly forgotten?

bro tf you mean "undeservedly forgotten", they have quite literally made a humongous bug fix update for DS and all it's dlcs

[Frosty_Mentos]

This is all you need to know about the difference. DST being the cooler one.

[arubaro]

this guy

[lenship2]

full wilson goh smoking art was done by nightwonder7, not me

[Mike23Ua]

Here let me explain what a “Spin-Off” actually is so that you are no longer confused about that…

A Spin-Off is a game or TV show that was spawned from another Game or TV Show that had characters or elements of that Game or Show but are not the same type of Game or Show.

Examples would be watching Family Guy which is a sitcom about Peter, Lois, Meg, Chris, Bryan & Stewie, and instead making a show about peters friend Cleveland. It’s not the same series.

With Video Games it’s even easier to explain than that!!! A Spin-Off video game is a game that spawned from the original game (Aka borrowing characters or story elements) but isn’t even the same TYPE of game as the source Material-

Examples are: Super Mario, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Mario Party, Mario Paint, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, Mario Karts. Yoshi’s Island, Lugi’s Mansion..

(You get the idea by now right..?)

DST is a Direct sequel to DS BECAUSE it doesn’t just burrow characters & elements from DS to make its own series (example a game where you play as Pearl and don’t do ANY of the things you do in DS/DST and instead walk around cataloging flowers & the fish you’ve caught in your art book like Pokémon Snap or something)

DST starts its story directly at the conclusion of the events of DS and it still uses the same cast of characters with the same type of gameplay (mostly..) Therefore- It’s not a Spin-Off, A Spin-off would be if Klei suddenly decided to make a Dont Starve game that was a Direct ripoff of Mario Party where you roll a dice, walk across a digital board game board, land on a location- Play a Mini-Game to earn a Star.. (You get the idea..)

Its not even the same type of game or the same story.

[Torpzun]

"Why do you think DST is <this word> instead of <this other word that could be used interchangeably in many conversations>" who cares? Why are we so caught up on the specific meaning of words? Is one of the harder bosses in this game an English teacher that we can't beat as fast if we said the wrong word?

[Yuuko]

14 minutes ago, Torpzun said:

"Why do you think DST is <this word> instead of <this other word that could be used interchangeably in many conversations>" who cares? Why are we so caught up on the specific meaning of words? Is one of the harder bosses in this game an English teacher that we can't beat as fast if we said the wrong word?

b/c if all else fails you go to semantics...