According to Wigfrid's quotes on ranged weapons, I think that Klei has made it clear they don't want her to have a throwable spear, HOWEVER

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10 hours ago, BeeClops said:

is that an in game spear skin ? 

It's one of a few I made for a project I'm currently working on.

[Gashzer]

On 10/15/2023 at 3:44 PM, chirsg said:

Wanda's fast travel is that powerful. You spend so much time in transit and wanda just blows that all out of the water.

 

 

This is the reason Walter, wx and wortox are better than Wanda. By the time you have accessed Wanda's fast travel during first winter you will have progressed alot more in the game by playing one of these other speedy characters instead, so Wanda players will be playing catch up. 

Movement speed is the king of all perks in DST.

In the late game a rider beefalo with a glossamer saddle moves incredibly fast and takes less effort to obtain and isnt tied to one character allowing for character switching. Which is a much better investment of your time than establishing a wanda rift network.

 

[chirsg]

4 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

In the late game a rider beefalo with a glossamer saddle moves incredibly fast and takes less effort to obtain and isnt tied to one character allowing for character switching. Which is a much better investment of your time than establishing a wanda rift network.

You can literally have both, but I think it's off topic at this point.

 

We're supposed to be talking about wigfrid utility of a throwable spear.

[Gashzer]

22 minutes ago, chirsg said:

We're supposed to be talking about wigfrid utility of a throwable spear.

I think the throwing spear shouldnt be a different craftable but a unlockable upgrade to the battle spear to give it abit of utility.

To make the throw different to wolfgang, maybe the spear throw had to be charged and manually aimed but flys in a straight line.

Actually the more i think about it, throwing spear should only be a single skill in a "battle spear" skill branch. With the other skills in the branch giving additional unique battle moves to the battle spear like the previously mentioned lunge attack. Pressing right click on the battle spear could cause wigfrid to enter a battle stance whereby you could choose which special attack to do depending on what button you press either the throw, lunge or AoE sweep? Each special attack could be its own skill to unlock.

 

[chirsg]

17 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

I think the throwing spear shouldnt be a different craftable but a unlockable upgrade to the battle spear to give it abit of utility.

To make the throw different to wolfgang, maybe the spear throw had to be charged and manually aimed but flys in a straight line.

Actually the more i think about it, throwing spear should only be a single skill in a "battle spear" skill branch. With the other skills in the branch giving additional unique battle moves to the battle spear like the previously mentioned lunge attack. Pressing right click on the battle spear could cause wigfrid to enter a battle stance whereby you could choose which special attack to do depending on what button you press either the throw, lunge or AoE sweep? Each special attack could be its own skill to unlock.

 

these all aren't bad ideas and I can get behind them. The utility behind a throwable wigfrid spear does have problems in the potential for double carry.

I don't think it would hurt much if the damage multiplier were something absurd like 3-4x damage base.

 

I'd really like for wigfrid to have a deeper combat system that somewhat differed from raw damage per swing in AoE hits and movement based lunges.

 

I think wigfrid being quintessential combat character meant more for fun than wolfgang's outright damage optimization would be great.

[Evelo]

Not a fan of the Howlitzer because of just how powerful it is (granted the use of the billion hounds teeth is nice) but a throwable spear seems like a great middle ground.

Granted the Howlitzer is end game so probably not that broken, idk just rubs me the wrong way.