Just some Weregoose Ideas i had

[Jakepeng99]

Even If the weregoose had all it's current skills as base kit, 2/4 of them would still rarely have an inpact, so i thought this would be cool.

 

Were Goose I

Exact same it is already good, but now also grants immunity to all slow-down effects.

Were Goose II (The Dodge Skill)

Now after dodging attack, you gain a speed boost that lasts for a little while. The dodge now works all damage for one second after triggering rather than only working for a single hit.

This might be cool to purpously try and tease an enemy to gain a speed boost, it might add some more strategy and change how you may play the Goose by adding a greed for Speed.

 

Were Goose III (Now called "Spring in your step)

The were goose now is fully immune to Wetness and lightning. Move much faster during any kind of rain.

 

Were Goose Mastery

Same as before with an added addition. Gain the ability to make Goose Roosts. Goose roosts are a craftable structure by Woodie. You can click on them on the map while being a Goose to fly there. The roosts must be fueled and refueled by feathers, costing 4 feathers per use. Malbatross and Moose Goose feathers count as 8 feathers each.

Birds may also come and roost in it, sometimes making an egg in it, and sometimes fueling it with a feather. Essentially it will very slowly automatically recharge.

The Were goose mastery becomes pretty useless past early game so this should hopefully add more use to this skill past then. Woodie always hated birds.

 

 

[ButterStuffed]

40 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Were Goose Mastery

Same as before with an added addition. Gain the ability to make Goose Roosts. Goose roosts are a craftable structure by Woodie. You can click on them on the map while being a Goose to fly there. The roosts must be fueled and refueled by feathers, costing 6 feathers per use. Malbatross and Moose Goose feathers count as 6 feathers each.

Birds may also come and roost in it, sometimes making an egg in it, and sometimes fueling it with a feather. Only happens on screen.

The Were goose mastery becomes pretty useless past early game so this should hopefully add more use to this skill past then. Woodie always hated birds.

6 feathers is a pretty steep cost for something that you can pretty much already do with how it's currently implemented. Maybe replace with seeds?

The chances of flying to a spot that is close enough to your destination is pretty decent. Especially when you have 5 opportunities to test your luck.

[Jakepeng99]

1 hour ago, ButterStuffed said:

6 feathers is a pretty steep cost for something that you can pretty much already do with how it's currently implemented. Maybe replace with seeds?

The chances of flying to a spot that is close enough to your destination is pretty decent. Especially when you have 5 opportunities to test your luck.

Instead i reduced it to 4 feathers, and made the birds add feathers to it off screen so after a while it would be recharged.

[Kwaik]

10 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Even If the weregoose had all it's current skills as base kit, 2/4 of them would still rarely have an inpact, so i thought this would be cool.

 

Were Goose I

Exact same it is already good, but now also grants immunity to all slow-down effects.

Were Goose II (The Dodge Skill)

Now after dodging attack, you gain a speed boost that lasts for a little while. The dodge now works all damage for one second after triggering rather than only working for a single hit.

This might be cool to purpously try and tease an enemy to gain a speed boost, it might add some more strategy and change how you may play the Goose by adding a greed for Speed.

 

Were Goose III (Now called "Spring in your step)

The were goose now is fully immune to Wetness and lightning. Move much faster during any kind of rain.

 

Were Goose Mastery

Same as before with an added addition. Gain the ability to make Goose Roosts. Goose roosts are a craftable structure by Woodie. You can click on them on the map while being a Goose to fly there. The roosts must be fueled and refueled by feathers, costing 4 feathers per use. Malbatross and Moose Goose feathers count as 8 feathers each.

Birds may also come and roost in it, sometimes making an egg in it, and sometimes fueling it with a feather. Essentially it will very slowly automatically recharge.

The Were goose mastery becomes pretty useless past early game so this should hopefully add more use to this skill past then. Woodie always hated birds.

 

 

This oversteps on Wortox, Wanda, and the lazy deserter way too much. 0.0% chance of an ability like this getting added 

 

Honestly the only thing close to this I could even see is some kind of turbo speed that drastically increases speed for several seconds (double?) and then the form immediately ends (or drains at max rate) after. 

Basically ultra speed goose that drains your whole meter or some permutation of that. 

 

Personally the current one is just pure RNG and super niche 

 

Hell you know what would be the easiest fix 

 

Combine the beaver and goose into one 

So either moose or beaver + goose 

 

I think moose still wins, but it's worth considering. 

[Mike23Ua]

I really don’t like Weregoose form like AT ALL… it’s incredibly pointless unless your wanting to explore the map in the early game, and what’s worse- Klei’s designed Intended use for it is GOD AWFUL your meant to use it for escape during combat scenarios, there’s an animated short showing it used in this exact purpose, there’s also skill tree perks that boost this..

But its still awful.

So, I purpose we repurpose Goose form- Let it do what actual Geese do, as in… catch fish in its beak.

Fishing in Shoals, Fishing in Ponds, ripping em out with his little beak.. THATS what goose form shoulda done.

[Kwaik]

9 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

I really don’t like Weregoose form like AT ALL… it’s incredibly pointless unless your wanting to explore the map in the early game, and what’s worse- Klei’s designed Intended use for it is GOD AWFUL your meant to use it for escape during combat scenarios, there’s an animated short showing it used in this exact purpose, there’s also skill tree perks that boost this..

But its still awful.

So, I purpose we repurpose Goose form- Let it do what actual Geese do, as in… catch fish in its beak.

Fishing in Shoals, Fishing in Ponds, ripping em out with his little beak.. THATS what goose form shoulda done.

It's one of the best travel/exploration abilities in the game. 

 

The ingredients are stupid easy to get and it's incredibly convenient 

 

I'd argue that it's probably better than wortox, Wanda, and the lazy deserter in certain ways. Especially if/when you're doing far away content/bosses 

 

 

[Jakepeng99]

12 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

I really don’t like Weregoose form like AT ALL… it’s incredibly pointless unless your wanting to explore the map in the early game, and what’s worse- Klei’s designed Intended use for it is GOD AWFUL your meant to use it for escape during combat scenarios, there’s an animated short showing it used in this exact purpose, there’s also skill tree perks that boost this..

But its still awful.

So, I purpose we repurpose Goose form- Let it do what actual Geese do, as in… catch fish in its beak.

Fishing in Shoals, Fishing in Ponds, ripping em out with his little beak.. THATS what goose form shoulda done.

The Goose is Woodies second best form wdym? The worse form is the were beaver. I use the Goose both late and early game, it is really good but the only skill i would ever pick is the speed one because the rest almost did nothing, you have a few of these with you, you can easily explore anything. The goose is a little faster than a beefalo with a regular saddle, but can use paths and cut edges over the ocean. Catching fish and stuff would be strange for it's design.

The beaver is the one that needs attention the most since Woodie with an axe os often enough, and there is little reason to pick the were beaver mastery since at that point you may aswell play Maxwell or Wurt since you gave up the Were moose for a weak skill that is meant to amass Wood, but is easily offered elsewhere in multiple character base kits for much faster speeds. Plus, no tree guards no living logs. 

33 minutes ago, Kwaik said:

This oversteps on Wortox, Wanda, and the lazy deserter way too much. 0.0% chance of an ability like this getting added 

 

Honestly the only thing close to this I could even see is some kind of turbo speed that drastically increases speed for several seconds (double?) and then the form immediately ends (or drains at max rate) after. 

Basically ultra speed goose that drains your whole meter or some permutation of that. 

 

Personally the current one is just pure RNG and super niche 

 

Hell you know what would be the easiest fix 

 

Combine the beaver and goose into one 

So either moose or beaver + goose 

 

I think moose still wins, but it's worth considering. 

I feel like even if the Goose moved 5x faster, moose will still win. Also i didn't want to replace the original skills.

[Kwaik]

32 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

The Goose is Woodies second best form wdym? The worse form is the were beaver. I use the Goose both late and early game, it is really good but the only skill i would ever pick is the speed one because the rest almost did nothing, you have a few of these with you, you can easily explore anything. The goose is a little faster than a beefalo with a regular saddle, but can use paths and cut edges over the ocean. Catching fish and stuff would be strange for it's design.

The beaver is the one that needs attention the most since Woodie with an axe os often enough, and there is little reason to pick the were beaver mastery since at that point you may aswell play Maxwell or Wurt since you gave up the Were moose for a weak skill that is meant to amass Wood, but is easily offered elsewhere in multiple character base kits for much faster speeds. Plus, no tree guards no living logs. 

I feel like even if the Goose moved 5x faster, moose will still win. Also i didn't want to replace the original skills.

Moose is going to always win because combat is generally the most difficult thing in a game balanced for a full group being played solo almost all of the time 

 

There's countless ways to explore or gather resources, especially the further you progress into the game. 

 

But a fully geared out self healing character with night vision with some excellent aoe/kiting utility (effectively moose) is hard to replace 

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, Kwaik said:

It's one of the best travel/exploration abilities in the game. 

 

The ingredients are stupid easy to get and it's incredibly convenient 

 

I'd argue that it's probably better than wortox, Wanda, and the lazy deserter in certain ways. Especially if/when you're doing far away content/bosses 

 

 

Exploration isn’t what goose is designed for though… there’s literally perks that are meant to make it more of a Fight/Flight formation (he even turns goose in his animated trailer to flee battle) and if you try to use goose form for its intended purpose- It’s the worst skill in the entire game.

[gamehun20]

4 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Exploration isn’t what goose is designed for though…

Yes it is?

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said:

The Goose is Woodies second best form wdym? The worse form is the were beaver. I use the Goose both late and early game, it is really good but the only skill i would ever pick is the speed one because the rest almost did nothing, you have a few of these with you, you can easily explore anything. The goose is a little faster than a beefalo with a regular saddle, but can use paths and cut edges over the ocean. Catching fish and stuff would be strange for it's design.

The beaver is the one that needs attention the most since Woodie with an axe os often enough, and there is little reason to pick the were beaver mastery since at that point you may aswell play Maxwell or Wurt since you gave up the Were moose for a weak skill that is meant to amass Wood, but is easily offered elsewhere in multiple character base kits for much faster speeds. Plus, no tree guards no living logs. 

I feel like even if the Goose moved 5x faster, moose will still win. Also i didn't want to replace the original skills.

Your simply spec’ing your Woodie completely wrong…

Unless you just want the extra punch & Planar Damage on Moose Form (not even needed at the moment TBH) 

The above image is the most effective well rounded Woodie, Full Beaver Mastery for doing stuff like This:

 

1 perk in Goose for faster movement exploring Ocean.

2 Perks in Wereform Duration Time, skip the 3rd & Unlock the one below it for exiting forms without starving.

2 in the Moose (because stoping mid charge is stupid and highly ineffective on Xbox Anyway…) but that passive healing, now that’s something you need!

2 in Lucy crafts skip the pointless head gear, go for the cane. & unavoidable lowered board crafts.

Fully spec Treeguard perks so you can both deal more damage to, and summon tree guards.

And that’s how you Woodie! <3

(Lunar/Shadow Affinity at this moment is highly useless and not worth investing into, it’s yet to be seen if future updates will make these viable.)

[gamehun20]

3 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

And that’s how you Woodie! <3

This is almost the worst way to woodie <3

[Kwaik]

Yeahhh I'm definitely not playing woodie like that 

 

If you want to argue it's early game build and you'll eventually celestial stone to re spec once you based up fine I can buy that. Either that or your entire game plan is treeguard cheese everything and call it a day 

 

Also stopping mid charge on Xbox is superb 

It's not intuitive but with some minor practice it's incredibly easy. 

 

I'll put like 5 or 6 spider dens together and just aoe kite everything with charge 

 

Plus it dominates so much content 

 

Woodie can solo cave rifts completely untouched with charge (on Xbox) 

 

It's also pretty important for numerous boss fights 

 

 

[Cheggf]

12 hours ago, Kwaik said:

This oversteps on Wortox, Wanda, and the lazy deserter way too much. 0.0% chance of an ability like this getting added 

Have you not seen any updates for the past year or two? They don't care about character balance any more, it's why they're giving everyone skill trees. People were saying this exact thing about stepping on Wanda's toes back when people were asking for Wortox's soul hop to be better, then they added it anyways. Just like they gave Wolfgang better gathering, and gave Maxwell better everything than everyone else.

It also wouldn't even step on the toes of anyone, since Wanda's is a meme for day 10 million people, Wortox's is really cheap, and this Woodie proposal is really expensive (probably too expensive to justify using, honestly).

If anything is giving this a 0.0% chance of it getting added it's that they already gave Woodie a skill tree and now need to pump out a ton more, not balance concerns. 

[Mysterious box]

11 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Unless you just want the extra punch & Planar Damage on Moose Form (not even needed at the moment TBH) 

The above image is the most effective well rounded Woodie, Full Beaver Mastery for doing stuff like This:

You do realize you lose a massive amount of the moose's damage output without the moose's final ability right? Even then the ground slam clears weaker mobs very quickly without needing to switch to charging.

 

11 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

in the Moose (because stoping mid charge is stupid and highly ineffective on Xbox Anyway…) but that passive healing, now that’s something you need!

I'll give the benefit of the doubt and say maybe charge canceling is harder to do on console? Because it makes a huge difference against hordes on pc making charing far safer and clearing horde a fair bit faster with a bit of practice.

 

11 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

2 in Lucy crafts skip the pointless head gear, go for the cane. & unavoidable lowered board crafts.

The hard hat is competitive with the football helm not only because of how incredibly cheap it is but also because it's great to give to followers if you use them. The 10% defense difference isn't even very meaningful in most encounters.

 

11 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Fully spec Treeguard perks so you can both deal more damage to, and summon tree guards.

Honestly this is just personal preference but I always skip this skill as I tend to not really use much living logs on Woodie and even then I usually get more than enough from just gathering wood from time to time.

11 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Lunar/Shadow Affinity at this moment is highly useless and not worth investing into, it’s yet to be seen if future updates will make these viable.)

I feel like too many people sleep on the shadow affinity not only does this mean that shadow creatures will keep off your and your teammates backs even during the nightmare phase but it also means your entire team will never be attacked by nightmare creatures during a boss fight so long as your transformed  and noone attacks them first.

[Nnumber3]

12 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Your simply spec’ing your Woodie completely wrong…

Unless you just want the extra punch & Planar Damage on Moose Form (not even needed at the moment TBH) 

The above image is the most effective well rounded Woodie, Full Beaver Mastery for doing stuff like This:

 

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1 perk in Goose for faster movement exploring Ocean.

2 Perks in Wereform Duration Time, skip the 3rd & Unlock the one below it for exiting forms without starving.

2 in the Moose (because stoping mid charge is stupid and highly ineffective on Xbox Anyway…) but that passive healing, now that’s something you need!

2 in Lucy crafts skip the pointless head gear, go for the cane. & unavoidable lowered board crafts.

Fully spec Treeguard perks so you can both deal more damage to, and summon tree guards.

And that’s how you Woodie! <3

(Lunar/Shadow Affinity at this moment is highly useless and not worth investing into, it’s yet to be seen if future updates will make these viable.)

What the f**k is THAT

your not even using the affinity perks...

and you say this is the best woodie skill tree formation...

I'm just going to link this and GO

(8) Ultimate Woodie Character Guide (NEW Skill Tree UPDATE) in Don't Starve Together - YouTube

 

[Jakepeng99]

The cane kinda sucks, it is a noob trap. It gets replaced forever as soon as you get a cane, it would be nice if it had a special ability.