Mike23Ua Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Szczuku said: Klei needs the 'character changes/qol' time between content updates so that they can actually finish them, instead of making monthly Taking Root/Terrors Below-quality updates. Stupid, imo. They should just let go of the monthly updates scheme altogether and update dst every 3 months or so Sometimes they don’t even hit the monthly goal & miss it by a month or two. But do you really think that if they took like 6 months off to make an update it would actually end up being the quality your hoping for out of it? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150002-so-why-did-the-skill-trees-happen-now/page/2/#findComment-1655853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milordo Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 17 hours ago, BezKa said: I don't get it. The new updates are clearly a lot of work, in real need of expanding and balancing, with new content lurking around the corner at every moment. Isn't balancing characters (only some of them each time) along, for the community to give feedback on right now, in the state the game is in at the moment, and then introducing more stuff that will likely change the balance again, a bit of a pointless task? Absolutely. There is no need to keep discussion further. It's 101 basic videogame design. Characters are the last things you touch in a videogame as they are influenced by the game, not otherwise. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150002-so-why-did-the-skill-trees-happen-now/page/2/#findComment-1655878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slendyproject Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 16 hours ago, MikoFanboy said: now that's kinda dumb to improve character kit based on the writer first instead of the actual character gameplay data, isn't it Beside if we has to put story reason in... we has Wortox and Wanda, a space and time manipulator, anything can happy, oops Wanda weird clock mess up the timeline and bem, Willow become a must better character now or Wortox doing his thing like what he did during the Terraria collab Theming and story are important though, and wormwood woodie and wolfgang basically have zero plot relevance so they are very easy to group together. The cinematics are likely a big reason the game is popular so it makes sense to coordinate the updates with them if all the characters will get a skill tree anyway. Its not like this is a competitive game where characters have to be balanced urgently based on data. I do wonder how they will group the rest of them for these updates. Theres still a bunch of characters that contribute essentially nothing to the story. If I had to guess WX and winona will be paired together while maxwell might be grouped with wendy or wicker. No clue who willow could even go with. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150002-so-why-did-the-skill-trees-happen-now/page/2/#findComment-1655879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milordo Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Sometimes they don’t even hit the monthly goal & miss it by a month or two. But do you really think that if they took like 6 months off to make an update it would actually end up being the quality your hoping for out of it? Y E S. If you don't have enough experience and knowledge in the matter, I suggest you to do some research. This monthly modern videogame bs ponzie scheme is a disease that hurts everybody, more so the developers and Don't Starve is a game that wasn't built to do this way. This game needs more time to process things. It's not a surprise when they started in 2019/2020, content was much bigger and more polished than end 2021-2023 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150002-so-why-did-the-skill-trees-happen-now/page/2/#findComment-1655881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoFanboy Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 On 7/30/2023 at 5:35 PM, slendyproject said: Theming and story are important though, and wormwood woodie and wolfgang basically have zero plot relevance so they are very easy to group together. The cinematics are likely a big reason the game is popular so it makes sense to coordinate the updates with them if all the characters will get a skill tree anyway. Its not like this is a competitive game where characters have to be balanced urgently based on data. I do wonder how they will group the rest of them for these updates. Theres still a bunch of characters that contribute essentially nothing to the story. If I had to guess WX and winona will be paired together while maxwell might be grouped with wendy or wicker. No clue who willow could even go with. story can be as flexble as the writer want it to be yes, I do understand that story are important, BUT when it come to character adjustment.buff,nerf,... what they need to do is base the story on the update, not the update on story they are the writer, the story can be anything they want, they can easily replace Wolfgang with any other character, then write the story around that character Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150002-so-why-did-the-skill-trees-happen-now/page/2/#findComment-1656165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloakingsumo198 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 It's a skill tree because klei wants player to have a "choice" you can "choose" to use skill trees or not. Same way you can choose what skills you want to invest in it's to give players more choice when they play and to open up new opportunity. This way it can make both sides happy but it seems some people just can't sit at the same dinner table if it's not set up their way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150002-so-why-did-the-skill-trees-happen-now/page/2/#findComment-1656198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, Cloakingsumo198 said: Snip Read the post again. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150002-so-why-did-the-skill-trees-happen-now/page/2/#findComment-1656208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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