slimbo Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I feel like after all the characters get their own skill trees there must must be a nerf for using opposite affinities tools,armors and weapons.let's say you're shadow aligned and use a smasher it must be less effective and takes more durability, same goes to the sword such as low damage and more durability taken. Now again but lunar aligned let's say the void armor loses its ability for more damage for every successful hits and has less protection. Even more, the scythe must be less effective in harvesting and does less damage will also be funny if it talks bad about you and the umbralla skill can't be triggered and so much more. This will be good because it makes u stick more to your affinity and also makes it punishing for using opposite Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 47 minutes ago, slimbo said: I feel like after all the characters get their own skill trees there must must be a nerf for using opposite affinities tools,armors and weapons.let's say you're shadow aligned and use a smasher it must be less effective and takes more durability, same goes to the sword such as low damage and more durability taken. Now again but lunar aligned let's say the void armor loses its ability for more damage for every successful hits and has less protection. Even more, the scythe must be less effective in harvesting and does less damage will also be funny if it talks bad about you and the umbralla skill can't be triggered and so much more. This will be good because it makes u stick more to your affinity and also makes it punishing for using opposite Not really the fact it's so easy to swap affinities would make this a pointless change. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/#findComment-1654334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I don’t see why this change would be necessary, though. I would rather improve the power of the weapons/tools on your affinity then hinder the ones opposite to yours. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/#findComment-1654338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimbo Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Not really the fact it's so easy to swap affinities would make this a pointless change. Yes it is easy to change between affinities but it doesn't make sense if ur shadow and u use a full brightshade gear, so I won't really call it pointless. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/#findComment-1654340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughCactus69 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I disagree. I think this adds unnecessary complication. Me personally, I want the downsides to be more noticable on some characters. Sincerely, Cactus Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/#findComment-1654343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Why would I not use stuff from the opposite side, who provides the best weapons against mobs from my side(so I can get materials for my side easier)? Plus this is kinda unfair for the lunar side. How many lunar items are there? Just 10. And how many shadow items are there? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/#findComment-1654348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimbo Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, _zwb said: Why would I not use stuff from the opposite side, who provides the best weapons against mobs from my side(so I can get materials for my side easier)? Plus this is kinda unfair for the lunar side. How many lunar items are there? Just 10. And how many shadow items are there? Can't call it unfair since u are the one who chose the side and its quite easy to change, and it really won't make sense to use opposite side stuff plus I think shadow and lunar items are both in balanced quantities Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/#findComment-1654349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, slimbo said: it really won't make sense to use opposite side stuff all of Wanda's watches are driven by shadow magic, if she chooses lunar side(which she possibly will to hide from shadows), she might as well just die... It doesn't make sense to not use the opposite side's items, seeing as you aren't really joining any side, you just killed them and use their corpses to your advantage. 22 minutes ago, slimbo said: I think shadow and lunar items are both in balanced quantities Lunar: Spoiler Moon Glass Axe, Glass Cutter, Brightshade helm, armour, sword, staff, smasher, shoevel and bomb, also enlightenment crown(does celestial portal count?). 10 in total Shadow: Spoiler All 6 amulets and staves, dark sword & night armour, thulecite crown suit and club, dreadstone helm & armour, void robe & armour , shadow reaper, upgraded gardener hat, telelocator focus, nightlight, one-man band, some of Wickerbottom's books, Codex Umbra, cursed rounds, all of Wanda's watches. These all require nightmare fuel or thematically related to the fuel. At least 34 items and I probably missed a lot. Very equal. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/#findComment-1654353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimbo Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, _zwb said: Lunar: Hide contents Moon Glass Axe, Glass Cutter, Brightshade helm, armour, sword, staff, smasher, shoevel and bomb, also enlightenment crown(does celestial portal count?). 10 in total Shadow: Hide contents All 6 amulets and staves, dark sword & night armour, thulecite crown suit and club, dreadstone helm & armour, void robe & armour , shadow reaper, upgraded gardener hat, telelocator focus, nightlight, one-man band, some of Wickerbottom's books, Codex Umbra, cursed rounds, all of Wanda's watches. These all require nightmare fuel or thematically related to the fuel. At least 34 items and I probably missed a lot. Very equal. I meant the new rift tools of both sides Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/#findComment-1654356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 minute ago, slimbo said: I meant the new rift tools of both sides That would be unfair for the shadow side, there are more crafts on lunar side plus those ones are much stronger upgrades of what we have previously, a sickle isn't all that impressive, not when compared to hammer with 8x the durability, staves that let you fight from a safe distance and ranged bombs. And the umbralla is just a typical "create a problem to sell you the solution" item. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/#findComment-1654361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Koopa Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I wouldn't mind this, personally. I think it's kind of neat when it is more of a commitment to pick a side. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/#findComment-1654441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I think reward player for using weapons and tools on thier side is better, and it also makes people more likely to choose sides (instead of keep neutral to use both of them), people always like to gain rather than lose. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149834-nerfing-tools-of-opposite-affinities/#findComment-1654468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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