BionicScorp Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 I personally think that while the skill trees do have some problems I actually really love the potential with the skill trees and regardless of their problems, who do you all want to get a skill tree next? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lossy15 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 This is the perfect time for Winona to get a nice buff, so yeah, I chose her. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BionicScorp Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Lossy15 said: This is the perfect time for Winona to get a nice buff, so yeah, I chose her. I agree Winona would be a good option, they do have a good role as of right now but that does not change the fact that they are not as popular as the others from their rather bland playstyle. They would be my choice for a rework after Wx-78(my main) and Webber another character I play a lot. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Definitely Walter, Willow, and Winona for me as now that Woodie's been fixed they're the main ones lagging behind the rest of the cast. By the way I've been thinking about this lately and I know it's extremely unlikely but I wonder how people would feel if instead of ending this beta soon considering the very minimal changes it got we could instead just add three more characters alongside the current three in beta. What I mean is every two weeks or so they could add three more characters and then make balance changes based on those three I know it would kind of suck for console players but on the flip side we could strike a much better balance this time around and hopefully prevent a third wave of character refreshes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BionicScorp Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: By the way I've been thinking about this lately and I know it's extremely unlikely but I wonder how people would feel if instead of ending this beta soon considering the very minimal changes it got we could instead just add three more characters alongside the current three in beta. What I mean is every two weeks or so they could add three more characters and then make balance changes based on those three I know it would kind of suck for console players but on the flip side we could strike a much better balance this time around and hopefully prevent a third wave of character refreshes. I mostly agree with these statements (my main basis aside) I really want Winona, Willow, and Warly to get the trees next. I also think though that they should complete every character skill tree in the beta before releasing them officially. As that way they could edit and tweak all character skill trees at the same time to make sure they are relatively balanced with one another along with just being nicer in my opinion. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I vote against Willow being the next. She needs more care and attention to her rework sequel than any other character and rushing her might not yield the best results. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BionicScorp Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, chirsg said: I vote against Willow being the next. She needs more care and attention to her rework sequel than any other character and rushing her might not yield the best results. Why do you feel this way may I ask? I personally feel that hers would be one of the easier ones. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, BionicScorp said: Why do you feel this way may I ask? I personally feel that hers would be one of the easier ones. She was the first rework. But before that, her changes from single player to DST has been a drastic one. Her very nature in single player was to sabotage everything you've built if you risk having low sanity, as she lit random fires in single player while insane. This wasn't something conducive to a game where cooperation was a central goal. I don't main willow, so my knowledge is pretty shallow, so bear with me - At one point, she only had a partial fire resistance that bordered on negligible before she received the full immunity, which begs the question as to why she had lost it in the first place from single player to together - She also had a "downside" where her body temperature dropped as her sanity did, sometimes causing her to freeze to death in the summer, the freezing aspect that was a pretty creative compromise from single player to multiplayer, some even using the mechanic to cool down during summer by nominally dropping their sanity. - Bernie turning into the incredible hulk was a pretty drastic change too, and the fact that enlightenment and it's current role where everything stands makes him useless in crucial parts of the game. - The weakness to being physically frozen being added into her rework and how that fits in with one of the bosses whose gimmick is to freeze you indefinitely, which I admit is a moot point as getting frozen longer than indefinitely is a bit of a fallacy in and of itself. Her rework in the first place brought forth some unprecedented changes in her gameplay in general, and new features added into the game punished her specifically for her interaction with the sanity mechanic. That's probably the main concern I have with her development. Is her interaction with sanity and it's something that should be taken into consideration. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, chirsg said: - At one point, she only had a partial fire resistance that bordered on negligible before she received the full immunity, which begs the question as to why she had lost it in the first place from single player to together PVP balancing was the reason I hear same with why should lost her inventory burning ability(I miss it) Â 5 minutes ago, chirsg said: - Bernie turning into the incredible hulk was a pretty drastic change too, and the fact that enlightenment and it's current role where everything stands makes him useless in crucial parts of the game. Honestly I'm fine with him not working under enlightenment what annoys me is that he doesn't fight back if your under attack by shadow creatures the thing he's designed for only while your insane so you can very much be under attack by shadow creatures and he's just sitting there watching you die. That and not being able to control when he changes back to small bear aside from raising your sanity. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Honestly I'm fine with him not working under enlightenment Do you main her? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I vote for "Please backtrack and don't do this Klei." Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowick Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I patiently await a Warly skill tree! I don't mind if he's next, later, or last, I'm just super excited for these skill trees! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I don't think they're going to not continue with the skill trees now, but if I am to look on the Brightside it's about time Winona and Willow finally get their much needed touch-ups. So yeah. Maybe this time the fire lady could become fire-based! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 hours ago, chirsg said: She was the first rework. Willow's rework was actually the 2nd one. 1st rework was Winona's(iirc it was somewhere in March). Speaking of, both characters could use quite a bunch of changes, tweaks and additions with their trees. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Walter, Willow and Winona are my top picks for the next set of skill trees. Dont mind me... just gonna link my Walter skill tree suggestion topic here cause i think i have some good ideas for Walter and wanna make sure Klei reads them! Â https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149175-good-job-klei-on-the-skill-trees-walter-skill-tree/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 hours ago, -Variant said: I don't think they're going to not continue with the skill trees now, but if I am to look on the Brightside it's about time Winona and Willow finally get their much needed touch-ups. So yeah. Maybe this time the fire lady could become fire-based! I'll eventually accept the inevitable. Just a really tough pill for me to swallow. It is good to look on the "Brightshade" of things. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrocator Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Maxwell. He’s already great so I want the worse characters to have better perks. Some of the early character reworks were not good. However Maxwell was second to last… Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I choose Wickerbottom because i want it over and done with. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Where's the option for Wilson? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 hours ago, _zwb said: Where's the option for Wilson? Did you forget he has one? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 hours ago, _zwb said: Where's the option for Wilson? + Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Did you forget he has one? A disappointing one, imagine having an entire tree based on torches Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 hours ago, abrocator said: Maxwell. He’s already great so I want the worse characters to have better perks. Some of the early character reworks were not good. However Maxwell was second to last… Maxwell was where they kinda went balancing is it something tasty? No? Then I don't want it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrocator Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 43 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Maxwell was where they kinda went balancing is it something tasty? No? Then I don't want it. This must be one of those Klei puzzles that I keep hearing about. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, abrocator said: This must be one of those Klei puzzles that I keep hearing about. Indeed did you solve it? You'll lose 100 spool per second you take so beware. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149529-what-characters-do-you-all-want-next/#findComment-1650965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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