Resetting your insight should probably cost more now

[landromat]

With addition of skill trees, 1 moon rock and 1 purple gem to change your skill tree points is dirt cheap and kinda kills the point of having limited points (pun intended). Maybe insight reset should not be possible with purple gem idol, and we need improved idol for that, with increased cost. Let's say it needs green gem moon lense to craft. Reasonable price to relocate your points.

What do you think?

[Keigo]

A reset every ingame year could work

[Baark0]

Would it be wrong to just let players reset the skill tree for free in the menu? It feels more like an oversight that you're able to swap skills by swapping characters rather than an intended mechanic. A more interesting mechanic could be to kill the respective side's boss (shadow kills fw, lunar kills cc) as a sort of betrayal (I know you don't pledge allegiance to the bosses and instead pledge to Charlie/Wagstaff, but unless a way to betray them is added this is the best option imo) to reset your skills.

[Dextops]

i said this before, but i'd like an item specifically for this purpose, it'd be nice imo without just stacking more stuff on the celestial champion.

[n.apollyon]

3 hours ago, landromat said:

kills the point of having limited points

The introduction of the celestial portal killed the point of choosing one character. There are survivors whose purpose now is just for a quick swap so that argument of no point in having limited points doesn't apply. The limit is there so that you don't get all the benefits at the same time, you'd have to choose which one is needed for the current run and if you want to have another goal then you swap out the skills. It is managing with what you've got. I think the skill swap on the portal is just fine.

[landromat]

6 minutes ago, n.apollyon said:

The introduction of the celestial portal killed the point of choosing one character

introduction of multiplayer killed that. Character swap just helps if you play solo/small group of players. Big group already has benefits of every character they want

[n.apollyon]

5 minutes ago, landromat said:

introduction of multiplayer killed that.

Cause this is Don't Starve Together? At least before the celestial portal update you'd have to plan or ask which character would be suitable if you choose to play with others. Multiplayer means each role would serve a good purpose and this game is supposed to be like that, cooperative survival. 

[landromat]

7 hours ago, n.apollyon said:

Cause this is Don't Starve Together? At least before the celestial portal update you'd have to plan or ask which character would be suitable if you choose to play with others. Multiplayer means each role would serve a good purpose and this game is supposed to be like that, cooperative survival. 

So solo players are not allowed to have fun because it's coop game. Understood

[Creatorofswamps]

11 hours ago, landromat said:

With addition of skill trees, 1 moon rock and 1 purple gem to change your skill tree points is dirt cheap and kinda kills the point of having limited points (pun intended). Maybe insight reset should not be possible with purple gem idol, and we need improved idol for that, with increased cost. Let's say it needs green gem moon lense to craft. Reasonable price to relocate your points.

Yes

[KromerGaming199]

9 hours ago, Baark0 said:

Would it be wrong to just let players reset the skill tree for free in the menu? It feels more like an oversight that you're able to swap skills by swapping characters rather than an intended mechanic. A more interesting mechanic could be to kill the respective side's boss (shadow kills fw, lunar kills cc) as a sort of betrayal (I know you don't pledge allegiance to the bosses and instead pledge to Charlie/Wagstaff, but unless a way to betray them is added this is the best option imo) to reset your skills.

The betrayal idea COULD work, But it needs to be the other way around. (Shadow helps Wagstaff, Lunar helps Charlie.) Maybe the end of Taking Root, we can see ourselves helping Charlie and Wagstaff once more to be able to reset skills... But you might change affinities...

[Baark0]

6 hours ago, KromerGaming199 said:

The betrayal idea COULD work, But it needs to be the other way around. (Shadow helps Wagstaff, Lunar helps Charlie.) Maybe the end of Taking Root, we can see ourselves helping Charlie and Wagstaff once more to be able to reset skills... But you might change affinities...

I was thinking of betraying the side your aligned with which would cause them to get angry with you and remove your affinity with them, which also just happens to reset all your other skill points.

[n.apollyon]

13 hours ago, landromat said:

So solo players are not allowed to have fun because it's coop game. Understood

Thats not the point. Just because this product is catering more towards the cooperative gameplay does not mean you can't play it alone. Things can still be done alone but you must know the challenges and difficulty in achieving them since mechanics are designed for multiple players. Deciding to change the system just because it's tedious for a single player style does not consider what kind of game it is supposed to be in the first place. This is the multiplayer variant of the Don't starve solo franchise. There is always the option of mods if you want the game to morph into a solo player catering game. 

[_zwb]

On 7/11/2023 at 11:37 AM, landromat said:

So solo players are not allowed to have fun because it's coop game. Understood

That's partially correct considering how ANR bosses are specifically designed to be not solo-able(the developers literally said "it is not intended to for solo" in klei streams). I still don't understand how and why did they do that

[abrocator]

Changing characters with the portal is ten times better than resetting insight. If the celestial portal is too good then Insight is not what made it so.

[Ridepod]

Pick character, go all in crafting skills -> craft -> switch, reallocate points elsewhere. Why bother investing skill points in there when switching is easy and cheap, unless it's a more situational craft like perhaps Wormwood being able to make a dark sword with just nightmare fuel and HP. I'd rather they just make these new character-exclusive crafts part of the character than the skill tree. If they stay, then insight resetting should cost more than having an upgraded postern and 1 moonrock and 1 purple gem. But I guess it's better than just interacting with a wardrobe.