blacknight7890 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 While I have mixed feelings about the skill tree as a broad overarching mechanic across all characters instead of just one, I'm nonetheless excited to see how it will change things up for the rest of the cast, starting with Webber. In no particular order or branching, here's my ideas on what our spider friend could have: Tree 1: "Friends" [helps gathering and buffing spiders] Spoiler Follow the Leader I-III [more bang for your buck] "More spiders will follow Webber when fed meat." "A horde of spiders will follow Webber when fed meat." "A Swarm of spiders will follow Webber when fed meat." Sharing is Caring [a nice QoL feature] "Friendly spiders will not eat dropped food." A Little More Oomph I-V [more damage, pretty basic] "Friendly spiders deal a little more damage." Tree 2: "Sweets" [Buffs to switcherdoodles and spiders themselves] Spoiler Sweet Treat I-II [more doodle efficiency, cuts down on grind, not very precise however] "Giving a switcherdoodle to a spider will also transform nearby spiders." "Even more spiders are transformed." Sugar rush [faster spiders, they are coming for you] "Learn to craft a 'Peppy Pastry' that can be fed to spiders to give them a temporary speed boost." [affects multiple spiders] Royal Feast [Tamable Spider queen] "Learn to craft a 'Silken Crown Cake', when fed to a Spider Queen they will become tamed." Tree 3: "Toys" [miscellaneous utility and unity accessories] Spoiler Toy Making I-IV [helpful items] "Learn to craft a 'Silky Sack', [hacky sack], can be thrown to web up an area." [Wickers book, but as an item] "Learn to craft a 'Hurry Horn', [bike horn], makes friendly spiders move to the selected location" [lets you move spiders somewhere specific] "Learn to craft a 'Bloom Weave', [popsicle stick yarn weaving, looks like a flower] a structure that can be placed near decorated spider dens. Spiders will spin webs onto it over time, can be harvested for silk." [passive silk farming] "Learn to craft a 'Silky Sham', [Shamlet Mask] a mask to hide from pigs." [Shamlet Mask] Tag, You're It! [good for both swarm control, and starting civil wars easier] "Using the Webby Whistle on a creature will make all friendly spiders attack them." Tree 4: "Affinity" Spoiler Shadow Swarm [cuts down damage from AoE attacks, more or less depending on planar alignment] "The Queen has taken pity on your friends, when many spiders are harmed, they will be protected by the shadows." Lunar Venom [tamed spiders gain additional lunar planar damage] "The Moon has blessed your spiders with lunar fury." And that's about all the ideas that I have, feel free to suggest more. We likely wont get his skill tree for quite a while so we can only speculate what it will be like until then. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Here’s my hat in the ring Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1647451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacknight7890 Posted July 9, 2023 Author Share Posted July 9, 2023 21 hours ago, Dr.Webber said: Here’s my hat in the ring neat ideas Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1647951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblinball Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Webber skill tree should just turn dst into pikmin but with spiders Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1647954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNOUS Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I made some suggestions in this post that could fit as webber ideas I see fit also for this post too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1648059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShuH Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 For the "Sweet Treat", I think it should be "crafting more than one switcherdoodle everytime" so that you can control the exact numbers of each type of spider. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1650370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 All of your suggestions are "bad" because they are too usable. Take a note from Wormwood and make the skills practically useless. This is sarcasm. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1650377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacknight7890 Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 On 7/16/2023 at 12:14 AM, Evelo said: All of your suggestions are "bad" because they are too usable. Take a note from Wormwood and make the skills practically useless. This is sarcasm. damn your right, I should try better next time On 7/15/2023 at 11:04 PM, ShuH said: For the "Sweet Treat", I think it should be "crafting more than one switcherdoodle everytime" so that you can control the exact numbers of each type of spider. that could also work, i figured it would make for a good skill since you can choose to not pick it, making its effect optional. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1650801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNOUS Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 "Webber's spiders don't follow u to different map shard but have to put them into backpack" Alone had ruined my experience as webber Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1650816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BionicScorp Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I really really like these ideas with a Webber tree, I can see a good use for all of these and I would have fun using them, well done. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1650840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I made an improved version of my last post I also made one for the skin stuff but that’s not relevant just added moonbound stuff and removed Maxwell clone changes sense they did that in his rework Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1650866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 5:23 AM, blacknight7890 said: "Learn to craft a 'Silky Sham', [Shamlet Mask] a mask to hide from pigs." [Shamlet Mask] It was necessary there. In dst, this is not necessary On 7/8/2023 at 5:23 AM, blacknight7890 said: "Learn to craft a 'Bloom Weave', [popsicle stick yarn weaving, looks like a flower] a structure that can be placed near decorated spider dens. Spiders will spin webs onto it over time, can be harvested for silk." [passive silk farming] This is a really good idea Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1650881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Alot of these are actually really good. Few ones that i think need changed: Silky sham, it is uneeded and could be removed. The switcherdoodle one seems more annoying since you can transform already transformed spiders by accident. I don't think Webber should be able to tame spider queens. I don't like the shadow skill really since it just simplifies one of his weaknesses. Instead, i think it should be replaced with: The less spiders you have, the stronger they are! But the more you have, the weaker(They will grow overall weaker past 7 spiders) Swarms will still amass more dps and be better agaihst single target, but this would be useful for aoe bosses as it can add some damage resistance and a small amount of damage. I think everything else is a good idea, maybe the lunar perk needs some tweaking not sure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1650949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_slaad Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 I had my own ideas for webber skill tree like to share, but it's so many of them so I mad3 a pdf file and put those ideas there. Tell Me what you think about it.DST Webber Skill Tree Ideas - Final Version.pdf Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149142-webber-skill-tree-ideas/#findComment-1658031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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