Why Wortox doesn't have crafting tab?

[noindyfikator]

Every character besides Wortox has it's own crafting tab. It would be nice to craft some special items just by Wortox. Besides soul mechanic it's a bit boring character.

 

[gamehun20]

6 minutes ago, noindyfikator said:

Every character besides Wortox has it's own crafting tab. It would be nice to craft some special items just by Wortox. Besides soul mechanic it's a bit boring character.

what items would wortox need?

[Just Mactusk]

wortox is as good as he is, I don't think he needs a special tabs, characters like wurt and wanda depend on their special crafts, wanda for her alarm clocks and backtrek well wurt for her merms, kings and guards, I just think wortox is unique enough as he is, being able to teleport,heal, and feed is all special enough for my likely, but that my opinion (Srry for bad grammar lol)

[_zwb]

I would love to see some soul-power portal, Wortox can even hop between games, so I wouldn't be surprised if he had those kind of portals hidden from others this whole time.

[ALCRD]

13 minutes ago, gamehun20 said:

what items would wortox need?

Not really need but throwing a random idea: a Soul Bag , keeps single stack of souls inside it. Prevents soul spillage (you won't loose souls if you already have 20 and you attempt to pick up one extra - it will still cap out at 20 it doesn't mean you can collect more souls) needs to be worn in backpack/chest slot to work and if you drop it souls are lost - they get released from the dropped bag without any benefit.

[Gashzer]

Wortox is one of the few, if not the only character that spawns in day1 at full perk strength which is very nice for quick play sessions or lazy people.

So its fine if he doesnt have any unique crafts.

[Mike23Ua]

Wortox is OP enough as is.. punch a few butterflies and you now have souls that feed you, heal you and your team mates, and teleport you all over the map.

He’s a simple character and I don’t think he needs much more than that.

Besides- what would you even give him?

[Mysterious box]

15 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Wortox is OP enough as is.. punch a few butterflies and you now have souls that feed you, heal you and your team mates, and teleport you all over the map.

He’s a simple character and I don’t think he needs much more than that.

Besides- what would you even give him?

Calling him op is over selling him but I agree he's in a good spot as of his last change.

[Gashzer]

54 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

Calling him op is over selling him but I agree he's in a good spot as of his last change.

I feel like Wortox is parallel with wolfgang. Both character pretty much spawn in with all of their upsides which is fantastic when playing public servers. Both are great at rushing bosses with basic gear (football helms and hambat).. wolfgang is better during the fights with raw power but wortox has better general mobility and having cheap healing/food is really really great.

If you plan to survive by just eating souls, straw rolls are pretty great to use if you get sick of fighting nightmare all the time. For every 25 hunger per soul used sleeping you get a net gain of 11 sanity.

 

[Mysterious box]

3 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

I feel like Wortox is parallel with wolfgang. Both character pretty much spawn in with all of their upsides which is fantastic when playing public servers. Both are great at rushing bosses with basic gear (football helms and hambat).. wolfgang is better during the fights with raw power but wortox has better general mobility and having cheap healing/food is really really great.

If you plan to survive by just eating souls, straw rolls are pretty great to use if you get sick of fighting nightmare all the time. For every 25 hunger per soul used sleeping you get a net gain of 11 sanity.

 

Wortox's healing ability only shines when fighting in a group otherwise food is overall better as a healing item.

As for mobility warping can cut down on travel to more tedious areas but long distance travel burns a lot of souls which in turn can cost a fair bit of time in itself more often than not less than walking but it's still there.

His advantages are good but he comes out being a far more balanced character than most realize I feel at least.

[flamboyant wolf]

the only thing I can think of is a structure that would act like ocuvigil, but only for the Wortox who built it, its main purpose being to make it possible to teleport on boats without also doxxing yourself.

but I feel like that's way too specific and niche use for an entire new item, so like, idk.

[Gashzer]

13 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

Wortox's healing ability only shines when fighting in a group otherwise food is overall better as a healing item.

Food is definitely not better than souls even for solo players. Pretty much everything drops souls. And you can catch bees to extend the amount you have but 20souls is loads and more than enough to kill any boss.

No crockpots needed, no gathering ingredients, no birdcage needed, no cooking time, just kill things which you would have to do anyway for crockpot foods.

Insane amount of time wortox saves being able to eat and heal with only souls.

13 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

As for mobility warping can cut down on travel to more tedious areas but long distance travel burns a lot of souls which in turn can cost a fair bit of time in itself more often than not less than walking but it's still there.

Yeah its not good to use all the time, only good for niche locations like lunar, pearl and atrium or skipping over labyrinth. Still is very convenient when you do use it. 

 

13 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

His advantages are good but he comes out being a far more balanced character than most realize I feel at least.

I feel old wortox was balanced now hes definitely S-tier. Better than wigfrid, wendy and maxwell. Probably equal with wolfgang, Walter and wormwood.

My tier list:

S: Wolfgang, wortox, walter and wormwood (wormwood is so versatile and is very useful solo and in a team hence the s tier)

A: wurt( even tho she is my second fav she is abit too grindy to be S tier), wigfrid, maxwell, wx.

B: woodie, willow, winona, wicker.

C: Wendy, Wilson, webber (hes really fun tho) and Wanda ( wanda gets outcompeted by wolfgang at all stages of the game, without her alarming clock she is worse than wilson, she doesnt do well with character switching as non of her perks carry over.)

D: Warly (wayyyyy too grindy to access his spices, even his volt goat meal is too grindy for only lasting 5mins and he has the biggest downside out of any character), Wes (however if you play him you are an S-tier dst player), wonkey(too annoying to get)

Might have forgot someone haha

[Mysterious box]

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

Insane amount of time wortox saves being able to eat and heal with only souls.

Your actually wasting a lot of time doing this as you still need the same resource for teleporting and healing

 

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

Food is definitely not better than souls even for solo players. Pretty much everything drops souls. And you can catch bees to extend the amount you have but 20souls is loads and more than enough to kill any boss.

No crockpots needed, no gathering ingredients, no birdcage needed, no cooking time, just kill things which you would have to do anyway for crockpot foods.

This is a mistake a lot of players make which was why his his status of "pay to win" was greatly overblown all his abilities use the same resource with long distance travel using most of his souls in one hop. Building up souls takes time even more so if your gathering small creatures despite almost everything dropping souls it's a constant upkeep if your using his souls for everything. On the flipside while food stations take longer to initially setup they can be maintained passively or actively depending on the route while giving much larger stat quantities and stack sizes beating him on stats overall while producing the healing resources in much higher amounts while fridges, salt boxes, and bundling wraps solve the spoilage aspect of food as well. This more or less leads into it also being a better idea for even wortox to use food for hunger so he can mostly use souls for healing and travel. This isn't even mentioning his being a imp making resource collection harder in some areas than most of the cast.

Before his touch up Wortox was a character who just fell off by the first winter or sooner depending on base building experience with his main contribution being the raid boss cleric but with his update gave him fast travel which gave him a wider range of applications in solo scenarios beyond gap hopping.

[noindyfikator]

I think you misunderstood my point. I don't want new features that will make Wortox better/worse. It's about fun of playing.

Soul mechanic is fun for first few hours and then it became nothing special and besides that Wortox has nothing more to offer according to gameplay.

[Gashzer]

21 minutes ago, noindyfikator said:

I think you misunderstood my point. I don't want new features that will make Wortox better/worse. It's about fun of playing.

Soul mechanic is fun for first few hours and then it became nothing special and besides that Wortox has nothing more to offer according to gameplay.

True but some characters should have no progression for their upsides (wortox) while others have to grind for their upsides (wurt).

Do i want the day 1 powerful soul mechanic to start a new world with Wortox no grind needed. Or will i be Wurt who doesnt have all her merm army strength to start with but if i grind the army out will end up being stronger than wortox in the long run.

I like having different characters with different amount of character-specific progression. It affects how you play, i choose wortox if im not planning to play for long on a public server, i choose wurt if im playing my own private world and have 5+ hrs free to commit to DST (which sadly is never these days)

[Mysterious box]

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

Do i want the day 1 powerful soul mechanic to start a new world with Wortox no grind needed. Or will i be Wurt who doesnt have all her merm army strength to start with but if i grind the army out will end up being stronger than wortox in the long run.

This is a weird comparison since their abilities don't even remotely overlap and most of Wurt's potential is already unlocked as soon as she finds the swamp since the guards and king are mainly useful for boss fights.

[Mike23Ua]

No one has even answered the question of what would you even give him??

I was thinking maybe a Beefalo saddle that allows him to teleport with his Beefalo but.. that’s kinda pointless because as long as you have a Beefalo bell your Beefalo will teleport itself to you regardless of who your playing as.

Maybe give him a Krampus Sack (a piggy bag only he can use that magically holds resources) this however feels like Maxwells perk of storing things in his magic hat.

Maybe you could give him one of that OP Wanda’s perks with something like a “Second Chance” Clock?? 
If you haven’t played Wanda I need to explain that she can literally rewind time, so anytime a newbie player DIES she can rewind their deaths with a cheap easy to get clock that has infinity durability & the only balance it has is it goes on a cooldown timer after each use.

Call me crazy but shouldn’t the character who literally consumes souls and releases them to heal players be able to drop souls into their Fallen Survivor skeletons to revive them? I mean it’s literally putting their soul back into their dead body…

[Gashzer]

11 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

This is a weird comparison since their abilities don't even remotely overlap and most of Wurt's potential is already unlocked as soon as she finds the swamp since the guards and king are mainly useful for boss fights.

I disagree, merm guards and king (seasonal fish too) are a massive leap forward for Wurt.

Their abilities dont need to overlap... wurt simply takes more time to use/establish her abilities to their max. Wortox starts out with max ability. One character has more character-specific "missions" eg. to find swamp, to find resources for merm king and guards, to find seasonal fish. And the other has no character-specific mission... you do the same as you would do as any other character... you just so happen to get souls from dead mobs now that you would kill anyway for loot.

[gamehun20]

27 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Call me crazy but shouldn’t the character who literally consumes souls and releases them to heal players be able to drop souls into their Fallen Survivor skeletons to revive them? I mean it’s literally putting their soul back into their dead body…

once you pick up a soul it's a mix of souls not a specific one. you wouldn't want to put a spider soul in a human now would you?

[Dextops]

6 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Food is definitely not better than souls even for solo players. Pretty much everything drops souls. And you can catch bees to extend the amount you have but 20souls is loads and more than enough to kill any boss.

Food is definitely better than souls even for solo players. Pretty much everything gives heals. You can dig up blue caps and get a stack of 40 in a single inventory slot with no effort and get Jelly beans later which are also way better than souls. 

2 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Do i want the day 1 powerful soul mechanic to start a new world with Wortox no grind needed. Or will i be Wurt who doesnt have all her merm army strength to start with but if i grind the army out will end up being stronger than wortox in the long run.

Also all true wurt mains know you only build huts for decoration. They aren’t really better than anything the player can do. She is a very meh character but she is my meh character.

[ALCRD]

2 hours ago, Dextops said:

Also all true wurt mains know you only build huts for decoration.

I love it when my base decorations kill hostile mobs and some bosses for me and double as a source of cheap labor.

[Dextops]

1 hour ago, ALCRD said:

I love it when my base decorations kill hostile mobs and some bosses for me and double as a source of cheap labor.

DST players when 160 boards, 120 reeds and 80 fish can kill enemies and gather resources (there definitely aren’t easier and cheaper ways)

[Baark0]

On 5/18/2023 at 2:00 PM, Mike23Ua said:

Wortox is OP enough as is.. punch a few butterflies and you now have souls that feed you, heal you and your team mates, and teleport you all over the map.

He’s a simple character and I don’t think he needs much more than that.

Besides- what would you even give him?

Calling wortox op when wanda exists lol

[Mike23Ua]

3 minutes ago, Baark0 said:

Calling wortox op when wanda exists lol

The two aren’t even REMOTELY comparable, Wanda has to collect a ton of resources and build her crafts, Wortox can literally stand in a biome with butterflies spawning using the Brightshade staff to amass 20 souls in a matter of seconds (faster if there’s a Wendy nearby) Wortox unlocks all his perks the second he spawns- Wanda has to put in a lot of time, effort, and progression to reach hers.

[ALCRD]

46 minutes ago, Dextops said:

DST players when 160 boards, 120 reeds and 80 fish can kill enemies and gather resources (there definitely aren’t easier and cheaper ways)

Rookie numbers.