miaomiaomiaowuu Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I saw it on streaming that, there was one dude making a live on the internet about dst. what he/she did is not regular playing. He/she was joining those hundred days world with no password. this dude just burn their bases while the host was not there. killing their beefalo, ate all their foods. I understand that everyone had done this before. However, This dude had done this for 10 days. On streaming . Think about it. Destorying others' world, killing ppl's trust on each other. I wondered is there a way to make a mod so that we can ban people if we know their klei ID? The current system only allows people to ban players in the current world. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Send KLei the link of this steaming chap's video with mass trolling. There's likewise this mod, but people (or maybe trolls, to not get reported further on) say is defunct: NoGriefer. From what I remember was a pretty effective mod, getting griefers kicked left-and-right to the point they were coming here, on KLei forums, to "Weah!" about it. Also you know what? Post the stream of said troll, fukk it - he wants to be famous for being a wonderful human manure with eyes, make him even more famous. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodyRandom Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Klei is not responsible for dealing with griefers. Do not post the streamer's channel here either as that would encourage witch hunting. Ban them from your own world should they join you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, SomebodyRandom said: Klei is not responsible for dealing with griefers. Do not post the streamer's channel here either as that would encourage witch hunting. Ban them from your own world should they join you. When some streamer advertises to a (theoretical) large number of watchers such a detrimental behavior for community at large I believe is something KLei should look into. Because can disrupt their sales on long term - random people tend to imitate what they see "0n teevee", and having a consistent amount of people mass trolling pubs after watching such shenanigans can lead to game getting bad publicity and refunds. And yes, post the streamer for all of us to see if OP's allegation is valid or not, and if OP has any merit or just some hypothetical situation. Again: if chap wants to be famous, let 'im be famous for the exact reason he streams himself for. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodyRandom Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, MostMerryTomcat said: And yes, post the streamer for all of us to see if OP's allegation is valid or not, and if OP has any merit or just some hypothetical situation. Sure, it might prove if OP is being true about their story but it could also worsen the situation. OP has little reason to lie about this anyways if they haven't posted a name so it would be a bad idea risking it now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, SomebodyRandom said: Sure, it might prove if OP is being true about their story but it could also worsen the situation. OP has little reason to lie about this anyways if they haven't posted a name so it would be a bad idea risking it now. Bad for whom? For the griefer streamer? Then, if true, yes, it should be bad - very bad. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losparkeros Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 58 minutes ago, MostMerryTomcat said: There's likewise this mod, but people (or maybe trolls, to not get reported further on) say is defunct: NoGriefer. One more note about it to be effective: you will probably need to be at least few days before griefer, otherwise people might want to kick you instead because "alerts are annoying" or "you don't have proof", but maybe it was because I was (un)lucky of finding person who stopped those deeds. Or maybe it was a griefer group. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodyRandom Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, MostMerryTomcat said: Bad for whom? For the griefer streamer? Then, if true, yes, it should be bad - very bad. For everyone involved. Simply put, nothing that great can come from an internet hunt on a single person. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Princess Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, miaomiaomiaowuu said: I saw it on streaming that, there was one dude making a live on the internet about dst. what he/she did is not regular playing. He/she was joining those hundred days world with no password. this dude just burn their bases while the host was not there. killing their beefalo, ate all their foods. I understand that everyone had done this before. However, This dude had done this for 10 days. On streaming . Think about it. Destorying others' world, killing ppl's trust on each other. I wondered is there a way to make a mod so that we can ban people if we know their klei ID? The current system only allows people to ban players in the current world. If world exists on dedicated server, owner can make impossible for particular user to even join server, provided one knows either KU ID of user or their Steam64ID. For dedicated server made with help of Nodecraft there is excellent guide: Spoiler https://nodecraft.com/support/games/dont-starve-together/how-to-ban-players-from-your-dont-starve-together-server I'm not sure if that works the same for dedicated server that is run on personal machine, but since there are very little differences in other aspects, one might as well try do same steps in this case. Quick summary of that guide: 1. Remember their in-game name at the moment they did harm. 2. Go to server folder, open server_log.txt file. 3. Search here word "authenticated", that should redirect you to places where unique user number is written (KU ID). Find KU ID of person in question. 4. In the same folder where Master and Caves folders are located create blocklist.txt file and paste here KU ID or Steam64ID of user you want keep from joining server. KU ID is more universal way to identify player since not every DST player uses steam and thus has Steam ID, but every player has KU ID, as far as I know. Number you need to put into blocklist.txt would look like "KU_AABBCCDD". If it's not dedicated server, you may still try do same things as structure of folders is essentially the same, just make sure in all those cases you make backup of folder first (copy save file folder to somewhere unrelated to DST folder before doing any changes). If someone has more detailed knowledge about this case, please correct my reply by leaving yours. Edit: in-game name is used only to find KU ID of particular user. After that is done player would be banned on that server even if they change name. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 15 hours ago, SomebodyRandom said: For everyone involved. Simply put, nothing that great can come from an internet hunt on a single person. Of course something good would come out of this: getting such stream deleted for people not to imitate described trolling behavior - and sending a message about trolling/griefing, as in something not desired, since it would be malicious game-play. If happened on Twitch I reckon would be against some ToS clauses. Same for YouTube. Inasmuch as you basically describe/show [to] people how to terminate other players' game sessions/compromise their game-plays. It would not be any "witch hunt" but a proven troll reported as malicious player streaming prejudicial game-play. 15 hours ago, Pig Princess said: ..on dedicated server.. While what you describe is the right way to deal with such scenarios for one's dedicated server, I believe OP meant to ask KLei what their stance is on this particular case, of a streamer streaming themselves griefing multiple servers (and probably monetizing those streams, in essence monetizing detrimental behavior advertised for DST player-base, or parts of it depending on one's reach and subscribers amount). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Princess Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 23 minutes ago, MostMerryTomcat said: While what you describe is the right way to deal with such scenarios for one's dedicated server, I believe OP meant to ask KLei what their stance is on this particular case, of a streamer streaming themselves griefing multiple servers (and probably monetizing those streams, in essence monetizing detrimental behavior advertised for DST player-base, or parts of it depending on one's reach and subscribers amount). It's true that at first I was confused about purpose of OP's post, since title says "How should I ban people from new world". My reply answers exactly that - how to ban people from particular world (at least I tried as best as I can). If, among other things, OP wants to help people to protect their worlds and happens to know them well enough to contact them, then again, OP could share this tactic with, for example, normal streamers that could be harmed by described griefer streamer. I agree though that streaming griefing and popularizing it is way too much, and even considering how lenient Klei are to griefers this case is beyond lowest debths of impudence. Plus it can have global impact on game itself. But if Klei ignores this case much like they did with previous ones, OP will know about at least some countermeasures that can be taken instead of having impression that everything is in vain against griefers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queron81 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Many of the dedicated servers belong to a Steam group. Report them the griefer, so they will put them on their ban lists. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miaomiaomiaowuu Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 5:08 PM, MostMerryTomcat said: Send KLei the link of this steaming chap's video with mass trolling. There's likewise this mod, but people (or maybe trolls, to not get reported further on) say is defunct: NoGriefer. From what I remember was a pretty effective mod, getting griefers kicked left-and-right to the point they were coming here, on KLei forums, to "Weah!" about it. Also you know what? Post the stream of said troll, fukk it - he wants to be famous for being a wonderful human manure with eyes, make him even more famous. Do you know how to send message to klei? I really don't wanna to just publish the link here, publicly. Thx. On 2023/3/3 at PM6点20分, Pig Princess said: 如果世界存在于专用服务器上，所有者甚至可以让特定用户无法加入服务器，前提是知道用户的 KU ID 或他们的 Steam64ID。 对于在 Nodecraft 的帮助下制作的专用服务器，有很好的指南： 隐藏内容 https://nodecraft.com/support/games/dont-starve-together/how-to-ban-players-from-your-dont-starve-together-server 我不确定这是否适用于在个人计算机上运行的专用服务器，但由于在其他方面差异很小，因此在这种情况下不妨尝试执行相同的步骤。 该指南的快速摘要： 1.记住他们造成伤害的那一刻他们在游戏中的名字。 2. 转到服务器文件夹，打开 server_log.txt 文件。 3. 在这里搜索单词“authenticated”，这会将您重定向到写有唯一用户编号 (KU ID) 的地方。查找相关人员的 KU ID。 4. 在 Master 和 Caves 文件夹所在的同一文件夹中，创建 blocklist.txt 文件并在此处粘贴您想要阻止其加入服务器的用户的 KU ID 或 Steam64ID。 KU ID 是一种更通用的识别玩家的方式，因为并非每个 DST 玩家都使用 Steam 并因此拥有 Steam ID，但据我所知，每个玩家都有 KU ID。您需要放入 blocklist.txt 的数字看起来像“KU_AABBCCDD”。 如果它不是专用服务器，您仍然可以尝试做同样的事情，因为文件夹结构本质上是相同的，只要确保在所有这些情况下您首先备份文件夹（在进行任何更改之前将保存文件夹复制到与 DST 文件夹无关的地方). 如果有人对此案有更详细的了解，请留下您的回复以更正我的回复。 编辑：游戏内名称仅用于查找特定用户的 KU ID。完成之后，玩家将在该服务器上被禁止，即使他们更改名称也是如此。 Cool this is so helpful. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulisesvolador Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 11 hours ago, miaomiaomiaowuu said: Do you know how to send message to klei? I really don't wanna to just publish the link here, publicly. Thx. Go to "contact" option at the right of the Klei logo up on this page. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 13 hours ago, miaomiaomiaowuu said: Do you know how to send message to klei? I really don't wanna to just publish the link here, publicly. Thx. On a more direct communication, you could PM JoeW - he seems most active site admin here and he might listen to your plead and advice you better. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146306-how-should-i-ban-people-from-new-world/#findComment-1623621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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