loopuleasa Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Overall a nice set of changes Typing them as I see them - Turf-hat-itator hat can auto-dig entire farming plots (apparently devs stated it is intended) - Tall bird recipe might be a tad too strong (150 hunger, 60 health). 75 hunger, 60 health would still be top-tier great. - Typo found here ("other means" is the correct version) - I had an issue where I couldn't hover a blueprint over a cartographer, but I am not sure how to reproduce it. I spawned it from console and it didn't seem to want to convert. - Scarecrow is low quality (confirmed to be known) - Found recipe cards should show the minimum viable crock pot ingredients to actually teach you the recipe - The new easymode parameters in world gen should have a few options that go in the opposite direction for each of them in a harder direction For instance, the full spectrum could be Nonlethal - Default - More - Insane (the "Take less damage" config might have to be reworded as "Damage taken" though and flipped) - A new "Insanity" gamemode preset could add the above presets at max values all with one click - Additionally, while we are at the topic of cool changes, I would love for Willow to have her infinite lighter back A fun beta, good job team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhh2 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 "another means" is grammatically correct. "other means" would fit, also. They are analogous in this context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, hhh2 said: "another means" is grammatically correct. "other means" would fit, also. They are analogous in this context. I have never actually heard it in the form "find another means" It would be correct if it was "find another mean" (singular, instead of plural) I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhh2 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Declaring language as "correct" and "wrong" is silly. No language follows conventions so strict that things like this become significant. The important part is the message and I could not see any native English speaker confusing the meanings. (I presume the majority of staff at Klei is native English). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, hhh2 said: Declaring language as "correct" and "wrong" is silly Okay, then to rephrase, I will say the form "find another means" is less commonly used instead of incorrect. I have never heard that form. Am I the only one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhh2 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 There are multiple dialects of English. My dialect sees frequent use of that form to where "other means" is uncommon to me. I'm not American however so I am not aware of what's common there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir_Jow Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I'd like to see an alternative for the cooblestone turf, the red/blue/gray mosaic one, could be an excellent anternative for new roads with a speedboost. I'd like to see these new turfs not only for their aesthetics at the base, but with some useful application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr4zyFl4mes Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 28 minutes ago, loopuleasa said: Okay, then to rephrase, I will say the form "find another means" is less commonly used instead of incorrect. I have never heard that form. Am I the only one? No, you're not. Sounds weird to me too. 33 minutes ago, hhh2 said: Declaring language as "correct" and "wrong" is silly. No language follows conventions so strict that things like this become significant. The important part is the message and I could not see any native English speaker confusing the meanings. (I presume the majority of staff at Klei is native English). While I am a strong proponent of language flexibility and phrase and word experimentation, and I am aware that languages evolve based on how people actually speak, I think declaring phrases and other language constructs correct or incorrect based on some official set of rules is not silly, but desirable. If you don't belittle the people making a mistake, or insist on them changing it even if it was on purpose, it's ok to point out inconsistencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clownarchy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 canadian here, "find another means" doesnt really sound all that weird to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Perii said: canadian here, "find another means" doesnt really sound all that weird to me k but also you're canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 This thread turned into a grammar thread, but it's cool I am learning stuff. I figured out why it sounds weird find another = find an other thing (singular) find some other (singular) find some others (plural) "an + other" implies a single thing so, when you combine it with multiple things "find an other things" "find another things" ^singular other vs ^plural things it sounds weird to my brain bc of that I feel the etymology of the word "another" is "an other" (One more; an additional) All of them are ONE thing (singular) Even if it is used in some other corners of the world, it mixes a singular (another) and refers to a plural (means) which has some wonky logic to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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