pether Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Current -8 Athletics penalty of Pajamas is pretty severe and is pretty close to Zombie Spore penalty. I wonder if there could be an option to take them down without manual input? Maybe something like checkpoint? Or Additional building, Pajamas Locker, that works only in Bedrooms and allows duplicants to put pajamas on just before sleeping and take them off after waking up? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Do we have pajamas now? I missed that in the patchnotes. Anyway a clothing checkpoint is something really needed and often requested. Just a simple selection of which lothes are allowed on the left an which on the right. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1598147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pether Posted September 15, 2022 Author Share Posted September 15, 2022 13 hours ago, Sasza22 said: Do we have pajamas now? Yes, they are added in public_testing beta branch, when duplicants sleep in them they dream and produce dream notes, that can be used later by new POI thing. The only problem is that I neither want my dupes to wear pajamas all day, nor I want to manually assign them every night... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1598232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goboking Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, pether said: The only problem is that I neither want my dupes to wear pajamas all day, nor I want to manually assign them every night... Maybe we're meant to designate one/a few dupes to serve a subject in the sleep study? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1598247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pether Posted September 15, 2022 Author Share Posted September 15, 2022 2 hours ago, goboking said: Maybe we're meant to designate one/a few dupes to serve a subject in the sleep study? I was thinking about it, but it feels inefficient to have somebody sleeping whole day. Maybe somebody with super high athletics who doesn't really need it because they work in one place whole cycle...? But still, -8 is a lot... I mean, it's not the end of the world, but it would be nice to have some counterplay for that Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1598276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meekay Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 I've been working in pajamas for 2+ years now with no apparent ill effects. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1598313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meekay Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 8:58 PM, pether said: Maybe something like checkpoint? Or Additional building, Pajamas Locker, that works only in Bedrooms and allows duplicants to put pajamas on just before sleeping and take them off after waking up? What if pajamas were stashed on the dupe's bed during the day, sort of like table salt? But still individually assigned. And if you reassign the bed the pajamas would fall to the floor, and someone would need to deliver them to their new bed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1598448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pether Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 minute ago, meekay said: What if pajamas were stashed on the dupe's bed during the day, sort of like table salt? But still individually assigned. that sounds nice and I'd love it, but on the same time it would remove any strategy and planning, and would make Pajamas penalty completly irrelevant and I'm not sure if Klei wanted go this direction. I mean they could, but then they could balance whole thing in some different way... Maybe something with stress-causing nightmares? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1598451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I wonder how would it work for a narcoleptic dupe. Do narcoleptic naps count for the dream notes. That one narcoleptic dupe would be my choice for hanging in pyjamas all day. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1598787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slvrsrfr Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 On 9/18/2022 at 3:17 PM, Sasza22 said: I wonder how would it work for a narcoleptic dupe. Do narcoleptic naps count for the dream notes. That one narcoleptic dupe would be my choice for hanging in pyjamas all day. good question, and I am so perplexed about this whole dreaming tangent. I feel like I am dreaming, this concept seems so out of left field. They wanted to improve the game, so they decide to overlay yet another layer of game mechanics, not designed to help us survive. And in fact it is anti-progressive. Since they have to sleep to gain. Just wow. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1603481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meekay Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 On 9/18/2022 at 6:17 PM, Sasza22 said: I wonder how would it work for a narcoleptic dupe. Do narcoleptic naps count for the dream notes. That one narcoleptic dupe would be my choice for hanging in pyjamas all day. It looks like dupes only accumulate dream time when they are sleeping in their bed in pajamas. I don't have any narcoleptics, but I know it does not trigger when a dupe is exhausted or gets stuck somewhere and sleeps on the floor. Update 10/19: I was wrong about this, I just saw an exhausted dupe sleep on the floor with a dream bubble, and another sleep hanging on to a ladder. What does irk me is that the dream journals that get produced are not categorized resources (unlike vacillator recharges or data disks), so there's no way to transport them to a different planetoid. In my current game I've started on the metallic swampy and the Somnium Synthesizer spawned on the oily planetoid. So even though I could cart pajamas back to my main base the dream journals produced would be useless. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1603546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 11 hours ago, Slvrsrfr said: They wanted to improve the game, so they decide to overlay yet another layer of game mechanics, not designed to help us survive. And in fact it is anti-progressive. Since they have to sleep to gain. Just wow. After 100 cycles you usually stabilize enough that you don`t need mechanics that help you survive. After 500 cycles survival is trivial. At that point we could rather use some challenge. Making a few dupes sleep and write journals isn`t exactly a challenge but it`s something you have to go out of your way to do. I like this approach. Hopefully it will get expanded into something more interesting. 2 hours ago, meekay said: What does irk me is that the dream journals that get produced are not categorized resources I almost think this should be reported as a bug. I`m pretty sure someone just forgot to add this to a category. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1603563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slvrsrfr Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Sasza22 said: After 100 cycles you usually stabilize enough that you don`t need mechanics that help you survive. After 500 cycles survival is trivial. not typical for me. Once in a push I got somewhere close to barely sustainable 200CY, or more, not sure. But not realistically. They just have a different vision for the game, and that's fine. I am plenty occupied with other endeavors. ONI will always be special to me. I will continue to hope they stiffen up a bit and develop something that's highly regulated, and well comprised. Even the throwback versions would be fun to knock around in once in awhile. I would be thrilled to start again with Luxury Cosmos, a wonderful seed I stumbled onto. Love at first sight, my banner. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143171-pajamas-checkpoint/#findComment-1603587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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