willell Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 我觉得增添一个机制会很好 占卜和预测 · 可以预知某些生物的来临 熊大，冬鹿，猎狗，蚁狮等 · 可以占卜出某些生物（物品）的位置 · 海象是否已刷新，帝王蟹，赃物袋所在区域等 · 可以预测天气 是否下雨、下雪 最初是构思一个角色的能力，最近忽然发觉作为一个科技会很不错 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capybara007 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Agreed Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I mean, it ain't a bad idea, I could see that being useful, but then again you can always for example just check if the walrus has respawned or not. You could also just keep it in mind, that he respawns in 2.5 days or something like that. For Deerclops though, calculating his arrival is no easy task, but him being a sort of surprise is I think intended. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Rather than predicting certain things, I think it would be nice to be able to summon them. So if you want to fight dfly 20 times, you have a ritual you can complete that summons her again. I've had this idea for a long time that there should be some hound boss you can summon that gives you like 15-20 days hounds free. Basically a way that we can sink in some effort to control our world more. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (or wanda could make timers...) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlrust Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 My single-language speaking a** scrambling to read this in Google Translate and agreeing with the message: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
willell Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 小时前，Shosuko 说： 与其预测某些事情，我认为能够召唤它们会很好。 因此，如果您想与 dfly 战斗 20 次，您可以完成一个仪式来再次召唤她。 很长一段时间以来，我一直有这样的想法，即应该有一些您可以召唤的猎犬老板，让您可以免费使用 15-20 天的猎犬。 基本上是一种我们可以努力更多地控制我们的世界的方式。 想法有趣 也因此我想到了构想的机制对饥荒世界体系的影响，比如旺达对时间的控制，我觉得她体现了饥荒及虚拟的现实世界是有“魔法”存在的，她是“超标”的角色，再根据我发现的另一个角色的规律，旺达出现之前，所有角色里，饥荒世界原住民都不是免费的，鱼人、恶魔、植物人，对应的从虚拟现实世界里进入饥荒的都是免费的，然后旺达，她不是免费的，所以我感觉她身为人类，是跟饥荒有着比其他人类角色与饥荒世界有更深的联系，掌控时间的能力有点像神 回到我设想的占卜、预测的能力，似乎需要考虑这种“科技”意味着什么，可能会显得角色们对饥荒超出原来的理解和掌控，而召唤饥荒生物的意义，可能比占卜、预测，显示角色们对饥荒世界的理解和掌控更深很多 现在我觉得这些能力需要重新考虑了 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacqiang Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 我觉得这机制的机会不大，毕竟这游戏的原有念头是要我们时时刻刻处于戒备中的状态，如果植入了这个就会把整个游戏的平衡感给搞崩了。 若真想要类似这样的机制，不妨看看这个模组？这会显示阎魔循环，狗狗来袭和地下虫来袭，还有季节性和其他的特定boss的出没/复活时间点。 帝王蟹本来就有探测方向的机制（要搞定月石任务和到石窟里面的遗迹启动里面的装置），至于其他的，通过探索个别的地区都可以找到（礼物袋、蚁狮），所以感觉这科技会有点多余了。 4 hours ago, Shosuko said: I've had this idea for a long time that there should be some hound boss you can summon that gives you like 15-20 days hounds free. Basically a way that we can sink in some effort to control our world more. Agreed. And one boss that we can defeat to deter frog rain for a season, please Klei please Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraia Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I can totally understand this clearly O____O Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieJ Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Seems mod can already done this? I like the unknown of future. Predict may reduce my experience(though I've already read the code which makes me to know how the world work LOL). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 If they can use Google translator, why can't you? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Gi-Go said: If they can use Google translator, why can't you? Who do you mean? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 16 hours ago, willell said: I think it would be good to add a mechanism Divination and prediction · Can predict the coming of certain creatures Big bear, winter deer, hunting dog, ant lion, etc. · Can foretell the location of certain creatures (items) · Whether the walrus has been refreshed, the king crab, the area where the loot bag is located, etc. · Weather can be predicted Whether it rains or snows At first it was the ability to conceive a character, but recently I suddenly realized that it would be great as a technology I don't know, sounds really moddy. You can already predict when mobs are going to respawn (and the intention seems to be to surprise the player anyways), and you already have the rainometer to try to predict the weather. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
willell Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 于 2021/10/19 于 AM8点03分,zacqiang 说道: 我觉得这机制的机会不大，毕竟这游戏的原有念头是要我们时时刻刻处于戒备中的状态，如果植入了这个就会把整个游戏的平衡感给搞崩了。 若真想要类似这样的机制，不妨看看这个 模组 ？这会显示阎魔循环，狗狗来袭和地下虫来袭，还有季节性和其他的特定boss的出没/复活时间点。 帝王蟹本来就有探测方向的机制（要搞定月石任务和到石窟里面的遗迹启动里面的装置），至于其他的，通过探索个别的地区都可以找到（礼物袋、蚁狮），所以感觉这科技会有点多余了。 同意。 还有一个我们可以击败的老板，以阻止青蛙雨一个赛季，请克雷 我确实没有考虑成熟 不过我想的是这个机制是为了提升效率和削弱灾难的发生，以前只是略微想过然后放弃，直到前几天使用围墙法打beequeen（一直单人玩），直到最后关头来狗——意义是在打某些费时的boss时可以先占卜以避免灾难发生，平时来狗我觉得没什么威胁 帝王蟹有探测机制，不过可以有配合的机制，而不是可以替换的程度，比如花费不菲的代价得知帝王蟹的大概区域 蚁狮在地图上有明确的定位，所以用的预测，可以在家里就知道它是否刷新，而不是过去然后等待，或者预测它陷地的到来 总之我确实还需更多考虑，我觉得它目前太粗略了 15 小时前，Cheggf 说： 我不知道，听起来很时髦。 你已经可以预测生物何时会重生（而且目的似乎是让玩家大吃一惊），并且你已经有了雨量计来尝试预测天气。 雨量计你知道的，一般是作为装饰品…包括温度计 我觉得预测雨、雪是有点无关紧要，只是为了预测、占卜的全面 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1505616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 11:36 AM, __IvoCZE__ said: Who do you mean? The author. Why is he speaking in Chinese, reads replies in English and then replies in Chinese again? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1506042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Gi-Go said: The author. Why is he speaking in Chinese, reads replies in English and then replies in Chinese again? My guess is they are using a translator function that translates this page to Chinese, so they read it in Chinese, but it does not translate their output. Its not a problem for a user - if you don't care to translate it from Chinese just move on. As a forum moderator it might matter as they may be concerned about their ability to moderate in a foreign language. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1506261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacqiang Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Shosuko said: As a forum moderator it might matter as they may be concerned about their ability to moderate in a foreign language. Spoiler My new job as a Chinese translator / moderator? Oh boy oh boy oh boy! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1506271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieJ Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Translate website sometime missing the key of origin meaning. It's fine to leave native comment since other native speak will get strange content from the multiple translate: Native Lang -> English -> Strange Native Lang. LOL Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1506338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraia Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 okay here is english translations if you're too lazy :l On 10/18/2021 at 2:17 PM, willell said: 我觉得增添一个机制会很好 占卜和预测 · 可以预知某些生物的来临 熊大，冬鹿，猎狗，蚁狮等 · 可以占卜出某些生物（物品）的位置 · 海象是否已刷新，帝王蟹，赃物袋所在区域等 · 可以预测天气 是否下雨、下雪 最初是构思一个角色的能力，最近忽然发觉作为一个科技会很不错 I think it would be nice to add a mechanism Occupancies and predictions · The coming of certain creatures can be predicted Bear big, winter deer, hounds, ant lions and so on · The location of certain creatures (items) can be taken out · Whether the walrus has been refreshed, the imperial crab, the area where the booty bag is located, etc · The weather can be predicted Whether it rains or snows Originally the ability to conceive a character, I recently suddenly found that being a technology would be great On 10/18/2021 at 7:19 PM, willell said: 想法有趣 也因此我想到了构想的机制对饥荒世界体系的影响，比如旺达对时间的控制，我觉得她体现了饥荒及虚拟的现实世界是有“魔法”存在的，她是“超标”的角色，再根据我发现的另一个角色的规律，旺达出现之前，所有角色里，饥荒世界原住民都不是免费的，鱼人、恶魔、植物人，对应的从虚拟现实世界里进入饥荒的都是免费的，然后旺达，她不是免费的，所以我感觉她身为人类，是跟饥荒有着比其他人类角色与饥荒世界有更深的联系，掌控时间的能力有点像神 回到我设想的占卜、预测的能力，似乎需要考虑这种“科技”意味着什么，可能会显得角色们对饥荒超出原来的理解和掌控，而召唤饥荒生物的意义，可能比占卜、预测，显示角色们对饥荒世界的理解和掌控更深很多 现在我觉得这些能力需要重新考虑了 The idea is interesting So I thought about the impact of the envisaged mechanism on the famine world system, such as Wanda's control of time, I think she embodies the famine and the virtual real world is "magic" existence, she is "oversized" role, and then according to the law of another role I found, wanda appeared before, all the characters, the famine world indigenous people are not free, fishman, demon, plant man, corresponding to the virtual reality world into the famine is free, and then Wanda, she is not free, So I feel like she's human, with more connection to famine than any other human character to the famine world, and the ability to control time is a bit like God Going back to my supposed ability to account and predict, it seems necessary to consider what this "technology" means, and it may seem that the characters have a greater understanding and control of famine than they originally understood and controlled, and that the meaning of summoning famine creatures may be much deeper than the occupation, prediction, and show that the characters understand and control the world of famine Now I think these capabilities need to be reconsidered On 10/19/2021 at 10:15 PM, willell said: 雨量计你知道的，一般是作为装饰品…包括温度计 我觉得预测雨、雪是有点无关紧要，只是为了预测、占卜的全面 Rain gauges, you know, are usually used as ornaments... Includes thermometers I think it doesn't matter how much rain or snow is predicted, just to predict, to account for the overall Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134534-%E6%83%B3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%9C%BA%E5%88%B6/#findComment-1506709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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