The problem of auto vote-kick "No griefer" mod in KLei servers.

[Halberd]

Hell, I would be damn impressed if anyone can find proof to prove just 20 guys on this list are griefers.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ty3isbcuyhwtva/blocklist.txt

But know who got evidence here? The DST admin that BLATANTLY admits she was griefing ONE year ago in  YOUR PROFILE (The Video form 2020, 2021 - 2020 = 1, simple math is hard)

Everyone, look at these menacing griefers of our society, deserve to be ban forever off Klei server:

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And for your record, OP: yes, using purposely a complete Panflute for-no-reason is griefing. Burning someone Science Machine is griefing. Kicking players for wicked reasons (%hits&giggles, friend slots) is griefing. Being on a server with only one other person - some other player that has torches on in daytime all-time and leaving a trail of burnt stuff, ultimately culminating in a very crispy-strips base is, wait for it.... GRIEFING! And very-most yes: such recurrent actions from "very questionable" players warrant retribution.

And this is our legit players making a "trusty BanLists" for the benefit of everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKEQDSj1Gk4&feature=emb_title

How FAIR AND UNBIASED, the good old elite of the DST community.

Again, do I believe this admin has changed at heart? Even though, yeah El Be, I remember my death and many others on the tentacle spawn in Clayfish - when you were still playing with these Raider groups. I would believe you have change, but then, your guy's action doesn't speak that to me. Why these elites and "friends" (oh yeah I got a hunch too, guess who is in their DST admin friend lists - server raider members, who would've thought) got special treatment when the rest of us - the peasant needs to tread carefully or get ban off PERMANENTLY by the people are not even paid a single penny for these servers, to begin with? Over those got damn TRIVIAL thing?

That is it, fellas, you can do anything as long as you are an admin or "loyal player and friend" of some DST group that making a ban list in Klei servers. Let's all go apply and get ourselves a free ticket of griefing without consequences.

[glob]

36 minutes ago, Halberd said:

Hell, I would be damn impressed if anyone can find proof to prove just 20 guys on this list are griefers.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ty3isbcuyhwtva/blocklist.txt

But know who got evidence here? The DST admin that BLATANTLY admits she was griefing ONE year ago in  YOUR PROFILE (The Video form 2020, 2021 - 2020 = 1, simple math is hard)

Everyone, look at these menacing griefers of our society, deserve to be ban forever off Klei server:

And this is our legit players making a "trusty BanLists" for the benefit of everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKEQDSj1Gk4&feature=emb_title

How FAIR AND UNBIASED, the good old elite of the DST community.

Again, do I believe this admin has changed at heart? Even though, yeah El Be, I remember my death and many others on the tentacle spawn in Clayfish - when you were still playing with these Raider groups. I would believe you have change, but then, your guy's action doesn't speak that to me. Why these elites and "friends" (oh yeah I got a hunch too, guess who is in their DST admin friend lists - server raider members, who would've thought) got special treatment when the rest of us - the peasant needs to tread carefully or get ban off PERMANENTLY by the people are not even paid a single penny for these servers, to begin with? Over those got damn TRIVIAL thing?

That is it, fellas, you can do anything as long as you are an admin or "loyal player and friend" of some DST group that making a ban list in Klei servers. Let's all go apply and get ourselves a free ticket of griefing without consequences.

Its just a couple of narcissists trying to gain power and attention through any means. instead of annoying people through taking an entire official server now they extend it to attempting to get people who they don't like kicked from servers via a "nogriefer" mod. i'm pretty sure same guy who made the mod would also take over official klei servers for himself through AFK scripting and go reee at anyone for holding a torch or a hammer as if he legally own the server. in the name of "teaching newbies" and whatever nonsense and claiming as if klei intended it. and other stuff that made me physically recoil due cringe but the guy who told me that stuff went offline. would be great if anyone can show proof

 

 

[Owlrust]

I think you focus too much on the forumites here my friend. In threads like these it is more sufficient to provide applicable evidence to support your claim to bring more awareness to the Devs themselves, not to some guy with a Maxwell or Wendy icon that disagrees for whatever reason. It's not like we have any power anyways; we're mostly here to take part in community based events, promotions, and discussions that the developers occasionally browse through, especially Maxwell Memes (lookin' at you @nome ). If you present an issue on the internet I can guarantee you it will be debated no matter what it is, or how well it was presented. Our job in these threads is to debate your claims and try to convince the Powers That Be of a different approach and outlook, although admittedly sometimes people aren't very receptive (but that could be derived from the fact that people have often posted articles for the sake of griefing, which I'm sure you noticed with post similar to "grabbing the popcorn for the show" or "griefer post mk.II"). Think of it like a low-budget game of Ace Attorney.

So far you seem to have presented some pretty good evidence to back up your claims, and I would be pretty hard pressed to say anyone else has effectively disproved them. I do think that the general populace is very unreliable to make a determining factor in the banning process as it is too easily corruptible. With any luck this issue will be further looked into by the developers to get their impressions on the matter. I have always been a stern advocate for equality in both real life and in video games, and I believe that gaming environments should also be fair and non-discriminatory as well.

[MondayNight]

57 minutes ago, Halberd said:

*debatable circumstantial "evidence"*

You realize all your "evidence" is a list of "he said she said" from both sides?! Likewise I didn't deny blitz's group isn't in their past faults (maybe present too) and another blend of griefers. What I personally pointed at is: Steam friends group A vs Steam friends group B - this is the essence of your thread and who presses by now in rather pathetic ways their "hit dog" issue - just a "raid" of Steam friends on KLei forums, complaining in unison to make it seem like many separate people were wrongfully affected. To me this is how all this thread appears now. One of your friends or you yourself most likely had a brush-off with blitz's group and came to KLei forums probably because they added you - fairly-so or not - to their mod "black list"; and now you guys find yourselves kicked from pubs en-mass. I don't see this thing otherwise, too much "la passion" only one hit personally would muster. And with people coming out of the woodwork like "i cant get around my IP reddit ban" fellow (am sure that ban there was undeserved as well, poor victim of the system), plus other sock-accounts like SusSosig here (account created a couple of hours ago), your case doesn't bode well by each passing comment. From all I know Group A could be one of those burning riders that grief servers with numbers by their side (Steam friends and/or bots), and now all your sick amusement got flipped on its head because of a client mod. Or a plain Griefer A group vs Griefer B group shenanigan (very probable). Once more: I don't defend that mod. I just take a suspicious look at both sides. I had my brush-off with Bee in past, and I consider that situation closed. Ghost Meep and CommunistManagement don't think I ever had the pleasure/displeasure of encountering, hence I don't know if they're trolls, "server take-overs" or whatnot. Feel free to expose them for whatever. Yet I will continue to glance upon your posts with high doubt on the premise of dupe/sock account and bringing friends to "hi-five". C'est la vie. By now I too hope KLei will lend some words on this, no matter the take.

[Misfortune010]

20 minutes ago, x0-VERSUS-1y said:

, plus other sock-accounts like SusSosig here (account created a couple of hours ago), your case doesn't bode well by each passing comment. From all I know Group A could be one of those burning riders that grief servers with numbers by their side .

Lmao you act like I didnt admit I made it just to answer to this forum, I only caught wind of this because of the evidence shown which is pretty obvious hes abusing his power but ok 

 

[blizstorm]

1 hour ago, Halberd said:

Hell, I would be damn impressed if anyone can find proof to prove just 20 guys on this list are griefers.

Let me humour you with a few

"76561198185289433 murder with end is nigh + twigs, burning base."

Current Name: Gibberson

"76561198220250213 murder with end is nigh + twigs, burning base."

Current Name: GNGR bred boi

Evidence:

They were previously named as checkered scars, griefing in a trio with the same costume

"76561198273839735 burning base"

Current Name: XD

Evidence:

[KeshS]

The thing is even if you manage to take the mod down, there is nothing stopping Tranzone from creating a clone and renaming the mod. If the issue is auto kick vote they could just tweak to notify the players that this person is a potential griefer. And a person manually vote kicks a "griefer" at the end.

I know some group of people that play on pubs, regurarly run their own blacklist. At this point you need Klei to fully moderate their servers in order to have any effect 

[GNGR bred boi]

36 minutes ago, blizstorm said:

Current Name: GNGR bred boi

You probably don't know this but I've already admitted to griefing in the first NoGriefer post I made, this was also over a year ago and I've since got my ban appealed from the server I actually did get banned from, making this information irrelevant. I never griefed again since that incident and I truely have changed my ways. I wasn't wise back then and I really don't see any point in griefing other players anymore, nor do I ever want to again. The banlist the mod uses is different from the banlist I actually got banned from, but it uses the banlist that I got banned from, yet my ban was never appealed on the mod. 

[Gibberson]

3 minutes ago, blizstorm said:

Let me humour you with a few

"76561198185289433 murder with end is nigh + twigs, burning base."

Current Name: Gibberson

"76561198220250213 murder with end is nigh + twigs, burning base."

Current Name: GNGR bred boi

Evidence:

They were previously named as checkered scars, griefing in a trio with the same costume

"76561198273839735 burning base"

Current Name: XD

Evidence:

I've already admitted to griefing there and have since been unbanned on their OFFICIAL steam group. And even though I was unbanned on there and the situation was already over Tranoze and his abusing group of friends kept us on his list for not liking us. GNGR's original forum post also explained how he was already unbanned and forgiven.

[Misfortune010]

17 minutes ago, blizstorm said:

Let me humour you with a few

"76561198185289433 murder with end is nigh + twigs, burning base."

Current Name: Gibberson

"76561198220250213 murder with end is nigh + twigs, burning base."

Current Name: GNGR bred boi

Evidence:

They were previously named as checkered scars, griefing in a trio with the same costume

"76561198273839735 burning base"

Current Name: XD

Evidence:

I would like to remind you that Tranoze's friends are actually griefers and I also believe that he refuses to put them on the list because hes bias, And I think he also knows that they are griefers but im not really all sure about that

[MondayNight]

Lol, pfft. They're all griefers, even self-admitting ones at that.

No point in interacting with this thread's insanity anymore. It really was "From all I know Group A could be one of those burning riders that grief servers with numbers by their side (Steam friends and/or bots), and now all your sick amusement got flipped on its head because of a client mod. Or a plain Griefer A group vs Griefer B group shenanigan (very probable)."

When rats try to weasel their way out of their self-dug hole...

[GNGR bred boi]

7 minutes ago, x0-VERSUS-1y said:

When rats try to weasel their way out of their self-dug hole...

You left out how me and a few others already got appealed for our ban on the official DST steam group servers but are still on the banlist of the mod for no good reason. 

The bans we got by the official DST steam group was fair and justified, it was also a temporary ban, unlike the mod owner's ban system, he bans whoever he wants and for as long as he wants them banned, even when innocent. 

 

[MondayNight]

2 minutes ago, GNGR bred boi said:

You left out how me and a few others already got appealed for our ban on the official DST steam group servers but are still on the banlist of the mod for no good reason. 

"The wolf changes hair throughout seasons, but its habit remains"

[GNGR bred boi]

4 minutes ago, x0-VERSUS-1y said:

"The wolf changes hair throughout seasons, but its habit remains"

Want me to prove that I'm not banned from the Official DST servers? 

also you blatantly ignored the clear evidence that the original poster linked, and I hope you realize that saying is pretty ignorant, because of course no one could ever possibly change their ways ever. 

Just as expected you're somehow more ignorant than the very people who use the mod to kick people before they could even load in to say a word. 

[Gibberson]

I've already made my peace I just wanna see how this one goes down below 

[l_siren]

1 hour ago, GNGR bred boi said:

You probably don't know this but I've already admitted to griefing in the first NoGriefer post I made, this was also over a year ago and I've since got my ban appealed from the server I actually did get banned from, making this information irrelevant. I never griefed again since that incident and I truely have changed my ways. I wasn't wise back then and I really don't see any point in griefing other players anymore, nor do I ever want to again. The banlist the mod uses is different from the banlist I actually got banned from, but it uses the banlist that I got banned from, yet my ban was never appealed on the mod. 

What the **** you lier?! You totally ruined my game experience on the EU based klei official servers just a few months ago you think I would forget you?

[GNGR bred boi]

1 minute ago, Razer_ said:

What the **** you lier?! You totally ruined my game experience on the EU servers just a few months ago you think I would forget you?

I haven't a clue what you are talking about? Can you back up your claims with actual evidence? if I were banned from the EU servers for griefing, I wouldn't be able to join them right now. 

[l_siren]

18 minutes ago, GNGR bred boi said:

I haven't a clue what you are talking about? Can you back up your claims with actual evidence? if I were banned from the EU servers for griefing, I wouldn't be able to join them right now. 

Don't you try to smooth your way out. From OP's post I can know the mod never ban anyone from joining servers but only initiate a vote kick. Not all of us general public players use that mod (clearly only a small group uses it based on the subscription number), why you lying about been banned from EU based klei official servers while not always someone is guaranteed using that mod in those servers? And good job on using "the burden of proof is usually on the person who brings a claim in a dispute" and the fact that not all of your victims keeps record of your despicable deeds. Enough said, I won't get into any more dispute with a lier like you. I have voiced myself and issued an alert to the general public, it's up to them to catch the alert or let it go by.

 

[Gibberson]

3 minutes ago, Razer_ said:

Don't you try to smooth your way out. From OP's post I can know the mod never ban anyone from joining servers but only initiate a vote kick. Not all of us general public players use that mod (clearly only a small group uses it based on the subscription number), why you lying about been banned from EU servers while there is no one using that mod in those servers? And good job on using "the burden of proof is usually on the person who brings a claim in a dispute" and the fact that not all of your victims keeps record of your despicable deeds. Enough said, I won't get into any more dispute with a lier like you. I have voiced myself and issued an alert to the general public, it's up to them to catch the alert or let it go by.

 

There's a clear difference between EU servers hosted by steam groups and klei officials so idk what you're going on about.

[GNGR bred boi]

2 minutes ago, Razer_ said:

lying about been banned from EU servers

Really because I just checked, every EU server currently being hosted right now, and as expected I'm not banned from any of them. 

 

4 minutes ago, Razer_ said:

there is no one using that mod in those servers

No, but the mod uses information from multiple banlists. Of those multiple ban lists, I got banned from one and I've got my ban appealed from the one I got banned from. The person who made the mod however still won't let me off the banlist of the mod, despite getting unbanned from were I originally got banned from. 

[l_siren]

2 minutes ago, Gibberson said:

There's a clear difference between EU servers hosted by steam groups and klei officials so idk what you're going on about.

Sorry I wasn't clear, when I say EU servers I meant European based klei official servers which I played mostly on.

[GNGR bred boi]

Also, not once did I ever mention anything about being banned from any EU server, I said I got banned from the DST Official steam group servers, not the EU servers. I've never even played on an EU server because I live in north america and I don't have the best internet. 

3 minutes ago, Razer_ said:

European based klei official servers

From my understanding you can't actually *really* get banned from a Klei Official server. As in an actual ban, not an instant kick. Additionally some servers claim to be "Klei Official" but don't have the Klei Official dedicated server icon, which means they aren't actual Klei Official servers. 

[l_siren]

3 minutes ago, GNGR bred boi said:

Really because I just checked, every EU server currently being hosted right now, and as expected I'm not banned from any of them. 

 

No, but the mod uses information from multiple banlists. Of those multiple ban lists, I got banned from one and I've got my ban appealed from the one I got banned from. The person who made the mod however still won't let me off the banlist of the mod, despite getting unbanned from were I originally got banned from. 

My condolence for your circumstance man, whether it's justified or not. But please don't ruin my game anymore in the future if we ever encounter on EU based klei official servers, and I learned from a hard way to use screen shots. 

[GNGR bred boi]

6 minutes ago, Razer_ said:

don't ruin my game anymore in the future if we ever encounter on EU based klei official servers

I never was on any "EU Klei Official" server and I never will be, because they simply don't exist, not any REAL EU Klei Official servers anyway. (It might have had Klei in the name, but not an actual server run by Klei) 

I am willing to move on from this however and I respect that you're willing to move on from this aswell

[l_siren]

1 minute ago, GNGR bred boi said:

I never was on any "EU Klei Official" server and I never will be, because they simply don't exist, not any REAL EU Klei Official servers anyway. 

I am willing to move on from this however and I respect that you're willing to move on from this aswell

Nay, "Spiders and such, slurtle slime, hound and hoggles" are all EU (or it's vicinity) based klei officials where I have the best ping. Mark your word not to ruins others game on any of them in the future, thanks!