Onidotmoe Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Could be interesting to have dups that don't eat meat or animal products, a negative trait or maybe give them a boost when they consume plant based products instead. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
degr Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1477847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinSong Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Vegan or vegetarian *POSITIVE* trait Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerves Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 20 hours ago, RobinSong said: Vegan or vegetarian *POSITIVE* trait Well, if there are benefits from consuming plant-based foods, then it's a positive trait. On the other hand, if there are penalties from consuming animal-based foods, or if they are impossible to consume, then it's a negative trait. :3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I don`t like traits that exclude dupes from doing something. Being unable to eat a certain type of food can end in dupes dying if only that is available. I`d rahter have the dupe have reduced morale from eating meat and maybe increased for non meat. It would be mostly positive then. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbd115 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Sasza22 said: I don`t like traits that exclude dupes from doing something. Being unable to eat a certain type of food can end in dupes dying if only that is available. I`d rahter have the dupe have reduced morale from eating meat and maybe increased for non meat. It would be mostly positive then. I prefer a increased stress debuff when eating meat but same difference Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
degr Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 vegan: negative part - athletics reduced -5 positive trait - he eat grizzly food, like meal lice, or salad, and normal dupes have more high quality food Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meekay Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 15 hours ago, crbd115 said: I prefer a increased stress debuff when eating meat but same difference Perhaps eating meat will result in gastric symptoms similar to food poisoning. Veganism should have a positive and negative, kind of like the dupes who have no sense of taste or style being easily impressed (higher morale). Maybe the vegans end up with buffs to health and athletics, but debuffs for strength. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbd115 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, meekay said: Maybe the vegans end up with buffs to health and athletics, but debuffs for strength. A vegan diet doesn't make you weaker, you can get the same amount of proteins from a vegan diet as a meat diet. It also doesn't make you faster. Most balanced way I can see to do this is Duplicant gains less morale from meat foods, Duplicant gains stress from eating meat foods, Duplicant gains morale bonus from non meat foods (Inlucing eggs and if they ever add milk and cheese to the game) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZ96 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Can we leave vegan vs meat out of games? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot focaccia Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 shouldn`t the dupes get a positive trait for eating meat because raising critters is harder than raising some meal lice? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbd115 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, hot focaccia said: shouldn`t the dupes get a positive trait for eating meat because raising critters is harder than raising some meal lice? Why would they get a positive trait? The positive for meat ranching is that it is more food, and better morale boost then something like meal lice. If your referring to having a second trait for meat eaters like carnivore for example, I don't think that would be a positive trait for the same reason that vegan shouldn't be, things that force the player to limit dupe behavior is usually a negative trait. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot focaccia Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 13 hours ago, crbd115 said: I don't think that would be a positive trait for the same reason that vegan shouldn't be, things that force the player to limit dupe behavior is usually a negative trait. yes i also agree that having a vegan positive trait is pointless but i was just giving an example of why it would be even more pointless since you would be getting rewarded for doing something simpler than another thing. but yes a vegan positive trait or anything like that is just dumb and pointless Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onidotmoe Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 I think a simple debuff/buff to morals when eating meat/non-meat wouldn't be as interesting as not being able to eat meat all together, like how some duplicants can't dig/build/research, it forces you to do something else with them, which i think is more interesting than having something that can be completely ignored with a bit of moral boosting. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbd115 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 hours ago, hot focaccia said: yes i also agree that having a vegan positive trait is pointless but i was just giving an example of why it would be even more pointless since you would be getting rewarded for doing something simpler than another thing. but yes a vegan positive trait or anything like that is just dumb and pointless Didn’t say anything remotely close to that so not sure why you are saying i did. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131738-vegan-or-vegetarian-negative-trait/#findComment-1480892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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