hyiltiz Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Efficiency analysis: ideal combos First things first: notice that each and every crop requires three different nutrients at various levels, but the requirement always sum to 0: nutrient-wise, farming is a zero sum game. See it another way, plants *transform* one nutrient into another, never really producing a nutrient. As a result, it is *impossible* to have a spatial or temporal combo that purely *produces* any nutrient as a net result. For those who prefer fancy talk, we can prove this by using the property of a matrix there row rank equals column rank. To keep things easy, we want to not rotate over time, but only over space (within a single farm plot tile), so you can keep sowing and reaping the same thing over and over again. Below are combos that I (and others, most likely) found, ordered from most viable to least viable. All of them are perfectly balanced: they do not consume nor produce nutrients. If plotted with proper configuration, they will always meet family requirement and produce Giant results. Spatial configurations You can use any configuration of plant location that satisfy family requirement, following the ratios shown in the tables below, not necessarily 4x4 at all. I'm using the following grid: 1 tile 4x4 crops: +----+ |aabb| |aabb| |ccdd| |ccdd| +----+ Any combos with 2 or 4 varieties below can be used with this 1 tile 4x4 crops setup. Combos with 3 varieties can simply ignore one corner to keep it balanced, or rotate that single block over time. This 1 tile 4x4 crops is currently only possible with the Snapping Tills mod by surg:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2302837868 Nutrient requirement and equinutrient replacements In any season, there are a few plants with the same nutrient requirements, thus can be used as a replacement for each other. Autumn replacements: Carrot=Pumpkin, Potato=Eggplant Winter replacements: Carrot=Pumpkin Spring replacements: Potato=Eggplant, Corn=Asparagus, Onion=Pomegranade, Dragonfruit=Durian Summer replacements: Onion=Pomegranade, Dragonfruit=Pepper. Unique nutrient requirements with no replacement anytime: Garlic, Tomato, Watermelon. Full table sorted by seasons availability and nutrient demand similarity: WIP: I'd rather paste text instead of images. However, I need text to use a monospaced for the tables to be properly formatted. However, using monospaced in this forum seems bizarrely complicated. Still figuring out. Let me know if you know how. Until then, I'll just paste in screenshots... Autumn Winter Technically, you could replace Pumpkin with Carrot, but why? Unless you are going after bunnies... Spring Summer Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124151-self-sustainable-combos-for-every-season-and-efficiency-analysis/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikapikap Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 ohhhhhhh thanks for sharing! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124151-self-sustainable-combos-for-every-season-and-efficiency-analysis/#findComment-1398362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryvrdrgn14 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 This is great. Thank you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124151-self-sustainable-combos-for-every-season-and-efficiency-analysis/#findComment-1398378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlrust Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 The till mod seems to currently only allow 3x3 planting right now. Tbh I can't say I'm against it, 4x4 didn't feel very legit to me personally. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124151-self-sustainable-combos-for-every-season-and-efficiency-analysis/#findComment-1398393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyiltiz Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Oh really? I'll stop updating the mod then But as I said, this is about the combo, not the configuration. You can still put 3 crops per variety. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124151-self-sustainable-combos-for-every-season-and-efficiency-analysis/#findComment-1398403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Owlrus said: Tbh I can't say I'm against it, 4x4 didn't feel very legit to me personally. I think it broke things for plots bigger than a simple 1x1. It sounded like the plants would pull from the wrong plots nutrients or something. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124151-self-sustainable-combos-for-every-season-and-efficiency-analysis/#findComment-1398404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuikui Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 The 4x4 grid is legitimate, you can do it without the mod. But it requires so much precision that it's better to do 3x3 than to waste 5 minutes trying to make the 4x4 succeed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124151-self-sustainable-combos-for-every-season-and-efficiency-analysis/#findComment-1398428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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