cblack Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I know about the two databases of information, as well as the in-game DB, but none of these are comprehensive. I'm often looking for other information that can't be found in any of these. Namely, "What is the X of Y when built of Z?" where 'X' is some property, usually SHC / TC / MP, 'Y' is some building (e.g. pipe, tile, etc) and 'Z' the material it's constructed of (e.g. steel, ceramic, etc.). Is there anything like this that I'm just not aware of? Ideally in a table format so things can be sorted or quickly pulled into a spreadsheet. Alternatively, if nothing exists, I'd be interested in making one. How do those two sites extract their information from ONI? Via a plugin? Any guidance on where to get started would be appreciated. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/111140-collection-of-hard-to-find-information/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I believe they decompile the C# code then parse the source files for most of these data. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/111140-collection-of-hard-to-find-information/#findComment-1251871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Here's an old one from R9MX4 that I still use periodically. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RW--zk9UniOmwDMqCM-0LPvhNatqRr3bHswu2aPQCjk/htmlview# Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/111140-collection-of-hard-to-find-information/#findComment-1251908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cblack Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, mathmanican said: Here's an old one... Yeah, I already have a lot of this in spreadsheets. I'm mostly trying to figure out how to adapt the raw material properties into the stats for each building. I can see this being done several ways: They have some internal DB for every material and everything you can build with it that they create custom values for. They use some formula that considers possibly mass and some "hidden" values for certain things (e.g. a multiplier for TC between 0 and 1 for insulated things), along with the base attributes, to get the resulting values. Some combination of the above. I'm guessing (or perhaps just hoping) it's the second. I'm going to plot out some values to see if it even makes sense, but it would still leave quite a bit of either reverse engineering or manual data extraction & entry. And, that's the best case scenario; if it's the first or third, I'm definitely going to have to find some way to automate the process. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/111140-collection-of-hard-to-find-information/#findComment-1251938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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