angrypig Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Hello friends! I have a newbie question regarding the automation setup. I need to set up my coal generator as an automated backup power source when my hydrogen generators turn off, for example because it runs out of hydrogen. At first I thought that NOT gate does the job, but I soon figured out that the hydrogen generator has only input socket, not the output one. I would like to ask if you have any tips how to do this trick. Is there any way to convert the input signal from passive buildings (e.g. hydrogen generator) to output signal? Many thanks! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixbySix Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just use two smart batteries to send a signal. One turns on the Hydrogen generators as 25% and the other the coal generators at 20%. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 There's several ways but the most reliable is to use an element sensor on the hydrogen line. So if the hydrogen supply runs out the coal generators becomes active. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsfc Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 The better way is use smart batteries like @SixbySix said. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Marsfc said: The better way is use smart batteries like @SixbySix said. Is it though. Using an additional battery wastes power, generates extra heat, requires floor space and more materials than 2 ANDs, a NOT, and an element sensor. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMBLCO Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Using an additional battery wastes power, generates extra heat, requires floor space and more materials than 2 ANDs, a NOT, and an element sensor. Usually you have a battrey bank to store energy so you can use those. Because you already have a battery it wastes as much power as before (battery run-off), generates the same amount of heat, requires the same amount of floor space and the only material is for an automation wire. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, AMBLCO said: Usually you have a battrey bank to store energy so you can use those. Because you already have a battery it wastes as much power as before (battery run-off), generates the same amount of heat, requires the same amount of floor space and the only material is for an automation wire. What are you talking about? The question the OP has if there's a solution to running a hydrogen generator until you are out of hydrogen and then switch to coal. One solution is to use separate smart batteries for each type as suggested by @SixbySix above. My suggestion is to have a smart battery and an element sensor saving one of the smart batteries. I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMBLCO Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Saturnus said: What are you talking about? You have a battery bank to store the power you produce. Like @SixbySix suggested you can use one of the batteries from that battery bank set to 70% to control when the coal gen will run. You can also use another battery set to 90% to control the hydrogen gen. If there is hydrogen the batteries will start the H2 gen when they are below 90% and it will run if there isn't any H2 then the two other batteries will drop below 70% because the hydrogen gen won't run and the coal gen will start. Plus the H2 gen won't run all the time. Sorry if I wasn't clear in the other post. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, AMBLCO said: You have a battery bank to store the power you produce. I followed your nice tutorial, but i can not advance further, because i have none. Pls explain. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMBLCO Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Oozinator said: I followed your nice tutorial, but i can not advance further, because i have none. Pls explain. Well you surely have some kind of battery on you power network? If not well you will have to build two batteries and put an automation wire to your producers. Slight disavantage like @Saturnus said ^^ but your power system will be automated because you don't want to waste power. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, AMBLCO said: Well you surely have some kind of battery on you power network? If not well you will have to build two batteries and put an automation wire to your producers. Slight disavantage like @Saturnus said ^^ but your power system will be automated because you don't want to waste power. Take a screenshot with your camera, because you just got your first "like"! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMBLCO Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Oozinator said: Take a screenshot with your camera, because you just got your first "like"! Yay! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, AMBLCO said: Yay! I have now full control over you(!), i can subtract/remove it and then you are naked again! Obey! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMBLCO Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Yes master! xd Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, AMBLCO said: Yes master! xd Well! But pls keep most important rule NR 1 in mind!!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMBLCO Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 If you say so sir! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 On 14.3.2019 at 5:27 PM, AMBLCO said: If you say so sir! +1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103845-automation-question-input-to-output-signal/#findComment-1165868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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