New station - equipment station.

[Dirmagnos]

Allows construction of 2 new pieces of equipment.

Respirator - reduces amount of slumelung from inhaling polluted oxygen by 50%. Wears out eventually.

Breathing apparatus - allows to stay longer in low-oxygen environments. Comes in 2 varieties. One is cheap, have low capacity and is heavy(-10% movement speed), must be recharged after oxygen supply runs out(could have recharge station like exosuid does, takes few seconds, more of a hassle than real problem). Second is more expensive, needs refined metals and plastic to craft. and uses cheap version as basis(to prevent crating stockpile of old hardware that has no use), consuming it in the process; has moderate capacity, does not require recharging station(slowly charges on its own when in oxygen-rich atmosphere) and has no speed penalty.

Both of them can be worn alongside regular clothing, but not together. Dupes put them on automatically when needed to conserve oxygen/filter.

[Smuch]

Not saying there couldn't be a place for such a station but it'd need more equipeent to make it worth it.

The second varierty of oxygen bottles seems somwhat redundant sice by the time you have both refined metal (easy enough) and plastcs (harder), you can just go for the exosuit.whch kind of does the same thing with full prtotection from germs and a far number of hazards. (Maybe if exosuits could be upgraded that's be a good one)

The first one though if it required only regular or refined metal could be a nice middle game option between 'breath holding' and the suit.

 

Since equipement here would be something duplicant can war alongside clothes toprovide them an advantage an now that the surface is a thing that exist... may I suggest a jetpack a a possible option ?Or rocket boos (it's abit silly but it'd fit with the slighty cartoony side of the game I think).

If full flight turns out to be a little complicated for our brave duplicants to handle (ie to code int the AI)  it could mabe instead double or triple jump size.

[Fenixix]

Maybe there will be some of this kind in the future. Upgrading dupes instruments for doing what they do(upgraded gun they use for minions for example) is a possibility. Curious to hear developers thoughts on this. 

[Dirmagnos]

14 minutes ago, Smuch said:

Not saying there couldn't be a place for such a station but it'd need more equipeent to make it worth it.

Idea is to start this whole thing, additional equipment could be added later, depending on need. With basis already there, new things to add would take less time and effort in this case.

16 minutes ago, Smuch said:

The second varierty of oxygen bottles seems somwhat redundant sice by the time you have both refined metal (easy enough) and plastcs (harder), you can just go for the exosuit.whch kind of does the same thing with full prtotection from germs and a far number of hazards. (Maybe if exosuits could be upgraded that's be a good one)

Problem with exosuits is that they need a whole lot of infrastructure to operate(and if i build several entrances/exits then dupes tend to run around in those exosuits as they do not return them, then i have manually to resupply exosuits at station, irritating) and dupes cannot run in them without top level training. Plus, exosuits are more for extreme conditions, like "basement" with its high temperatures. I only build those for anything else if there is need for dupes performing extensive tasks, like working metal refineries located in hydrogen. I generally get bored and start new game before i start building them everywhere.

I want something that allows better mobility, but rather specific bonus, compared to exosuits.

21 minutes ago, Smuch said:

If full flight turns out to be a little complicated for our brave duplicants to handle (ie to code int the AI)  it could mabe instead double or triple jump size.

Ive been thinking about it from a bit different perspective. With all due respect to devs, but i find most traits to be crap, like "+3 to this" or "+5 to that". I generally build colony with all dupes being "Uncultured"(imo most useful trait out there) and one or two having "Germ Resistant", so that i have someone doing some art. Up to 10 dupes i just save scum to reroll dupes(when new dupe is inbound, instead of opening new arrival window, i just save, then check available dupes, if none of new arrivals are of interest to me, i just reload save, as dupe stats are determined moment player opens recruitment window) to build up some force fast, then i just discard them time after time till i get good combo with "Uncultured" as main requirement.

Anyway. Ive been thinking about perks that would not interfere with primary stats, but have their own specific unique bonuses, that dupe cannot acquire any other way. Like "Acrobat" could climb 3 tile high ledges, instead of 2. Or "Curious" could have a small chance to occasionally gain skill exp boost(Eureka). Same with negative traits. "Anxious" tend to just stop things that he is doing(similar to when dupes suddenly feel the need to take a **** and drop whatever they are doing) for no good reason. "Hypochondriac" can temporarily gain negative condition penalties without having negative condition. That kind of thing.

[Smuch]

Ive been thinking about it from a bit different perspective. With all due respect to devs, but i find most traits to be crap, like "+3 to this" or "+5 to that". I generally build colony with all dupes being "Uncultured"(imo most useful trait out there) and one or two having "Germ Resistant", so that i have someone doing some art. Up to 10 dupes i just save scum to reroll dupes(when new dupe is inbound, instead of opening new arrival window, i just save, then check available dupes, if none of new arrivals are of interest to me, i just reload save, as dupe stats are determined moment player opens recruitment window) to build up some force fast, then i just discard them time after time till i get good combo with "Uncultured" as main requirement.

 

Not that I necsarily disagree about most traits only shuffling stats around  but this is where it's good to remember this is still only in alpha. A change in how dupliant stats ad traits are handled is still quite possible in the future

But in't that's kind off geting on a very different subject that the one you originaly gave the thread here ?

[TheExceed]

I still want my backpacks to be added man ;c
Either be added to textile loom or to this station

Backpacks allow for dupes to carry more and a reduced athletics cost.
I had a list of more backpacks. But they would also stop dupes from drop resources when they need to eat or breathe, etc.

[Dirmagnos]

11 hours ago, Smuch said:

But in't that's kind off geting on a very different subject that the one you originaly gave the thread here ?

You started it. 

8 hours ago, TheExceed said:

I had a list of more backpacks. But they would also stop dupes from drop resources when they need to eat or breathe, etc.

Ohh, yes, i find carry weight not as relevant at this point, as gofer training gives they insane carry capacity of a freight train. But the fact that they friggin drop stuff all the time is extremely infuriating. I tend to build in sections of set width and height, with long shafts in between, that go from top to bottom(for transport, power lines, liquid and gas pipes) and every time one of those imbeciles drop something for no good reason, it goes all the way down to the bottom. Why to frak cant they put what they are carrying to the nearest ledge is beyond me. +5 to backpacks.

Its from same category as building/digging themselves in all the time. Feels like they do it intentionally to piss me off, lol.

[TheExceed]

7 hours ago, Dirmagnos said:

You started it. 

Ohh, yes, i find carry weight not as relevant at this point, as gofer training gives they insane carry capacity of a freight train. But the fact that they friggin drop stuff all the time is extremely infuriating. I tend to build in sections of set width and height, with long shafts in between, that go from top to bottom(for transport, power lines, liquid and gas pipes) and every time one of those imbeciles drop something for no good reason, it goes all the way down to the bottom. Why to frak cant they put what they are carrying to the nearest ledge is beyond me. +5 to backpacks.

Its from same category as building/digging themselves in all the time. Feels like they do it intentionally to piss me off, lol.

Yeah personally, The extra weight for gofer isn't necessary. Atleast in my play throughs.. dupe can bring majority if not all resources required for builds in one go unless it requires two resources. I think gofer should have athletics boost. Making crosstraining of gofer and groundskeeper more valuable.

But yeah I had a few ideas for different backpacks they could add. Which looks like you had already seen them but ill post the link here for others

 

[blash365]

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