avc15 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 OK guys, this storeroom is part of a steam boiler. I want to put iron that's just barely cool enough to be solid into these storage compactors, and then use the heat in the room to boost the temp of the steam next door: molten iron cools and solidifies in (1) I need to move it into the storage compactors in (2), which is full of high pressure hot (hydrogen/steam, haven't decided yet). And that's the root of this challenge, I don't want to waste heat energy, I need to keep (1) purged to vacuum, and I don't want the people space to become hazardous. (2) is the primary heat source to bake steam into the turbine from (3) The power plant control room will be at (4), right now there's no access from (4) to (2) but I could change that easily. Dupes have access to (1) but it has to be purged to vacuum every time someone comes through the vacuum doors. Right now there's a 7x2 vacuum door between (1) and (2) that I tried to set up here, but I'm going to have to abandon that idea. It's pretty impossible to keep 4kgm3 atmosphere from moving through an airlock. I was thinking I could use a liquid lock, but the only liquids that won't vaporize with 1500c metals being moved through them are going to be problematic for other reasons. I was thinking I could use a conveyor, but I haven't thought of a way to cool a sweeper inside that hostile atmosphere. Ideas? edit: wider view Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89542-whats-the-best-way-to-transport-this-hot-metal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 one thing I could do is build a purge chamber that depressurizes the H2 when I'm repacking the storage, and then pumps it back in when ready. But this will require rejecting at least a little heat into my cooling plant. So far my that's my best thought. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89542-whats-the-best-way-to-transport-this-hot-metal/#findComment-1023976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Refine wolframite to tungsten and build with that I think in the long run it's the best option Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89542-whats-the-best-way-to-transport-this-hot-metal/#findComment-1023993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyMonroe Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 I assume it's intentional that your steam turbine will be deleting steam? Dupes in exosuits are able to grab and move iron at near liquid temps. You can have them load it into a conveyor loader that's cooled with a corner cooling setup and have the bulk of the cooling handled whilst on the rail by having it loop around the steam room (use cooling fins for best results). With steam turbines you'll get better cooling if you build a pumped steam loop and heat the steam above the turbine as well as it will be a lower average temp. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89542-whats-the-best-way-to-transport-this-hot-metal/#findComment-1024031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 4 hours ago, JonnyMonroe said: I assume it's intentional that your steam turbine will be deleting steam? I have it capped at the moment because it's off. I'm working on the condenser. No, I won't be deleting steam. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89542-whats-the-best-way-to-transport-this-hot-metal/#findComment-1024102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 5 hours ago, JonnyMonroe said: (..) load it into a conveyor loader that's cooled with a corner cooling setup and have the bulk of the cooling handled whilst on the rail by having it loop around the steam room (..) The main purpose of this project is to be in very precise control of how much heat I waste in my powerplant. I should heat my steam to a precise temperature using automation in order to accomplish that, that's why i'm using contact heaters. Using a conveyor to heat steam is extremely effective just not easy to control. I do think though that there's a flaw, I've made myself dependent on storage compactors. I don't really need to cool the molten metal with magma, that idea is a bit too cute. I might have to rethink the whole design. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89542-whats-the-best-way-to-transport-this-hot-metal/#findComment-1024112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispershade Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Only way I can think of to move superhot objects safely is gravity. I don't know if sweeper arms heat up based on direct contact from, but it might be possible to use them in a vacuum to move the super hot material if they transfer heat through atmosphere. Then once the objects are out of the area flood in gas to cool down the sweep arms from the heat they generate their own. I don't think that's particularly practical though given how conveyors work all together, though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89542-whats-the-best-way-to-transport-this-hot-metal/#findComment-1024230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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