sheilaanderson Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I see many people put wheezeworts in a room with hydrogen next to an area they want to be cooled, and use certain type of tile or tempshift plate to disperse the cooling to adjacent room. I assume this is more efficient than just putting the same # of wheezeworts in the same room as the stuff they want to be cooled, but I can't figure out why. Does anyone know? For example, I want to cool the oxygen that comes out of electrolyzers at constant 70c degrees. Assuming I have 4 electrolyzers in a room, I could either put the wheezeworts in the same room, or put them in an adjacent room filled with hydrogen. Which is more efficient and why? Thanks Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89517-why-wheezeworts-in-hydrogen-room/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
All0is0Dust Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 It's because of the thermal properties of hydrogen compared to oxygen. It takes wheezewort's way less time and effort to cool hydrogen than it does the same amount of oxygen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89517-why-wheezeworts-in-hydrogen-room/#findComment-1023934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 adjacent room with hydrogen but its because hydrogen has higher thermal capacity (holds more heat). Weeze deletes 5c heat from 1kg of gas per breath, the most energy that can be removed like this is in hydrogen over 1kg. In my experience, to free cool just the electrolizers output in oxygen took about 8 weezes spread around the base while it can be done with 2-3 hydrogen weezies Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89517-why-wheezeworts-in-hydrogen-room/#findComment-1023936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Something like this could work for you - build a one or a few of these around your base (depending on how big your base is of course) Wheezewort cools the hydrogen filled room - metal tiles are in contact and so get cooled down. The mechanized airlock acts as a transfer plate that can transfer the cold temperature if closed (i.e. you need to cool your oxygen) or not transfer if open (which allows the wheeze to get nice and cold ) Couple of vent to show where your oxygen comes in - airflow tiles made of wolframite to help with the heat exchange, and a few temp shifts to average things out nicely. The automation is rather tricky, so brace yourself : Spoiler Set the thermo switch to your desired temp and away you go. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89517-why-wheezeworts-in-hydrogen-room/#findComment-1023937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 It is because of the precise mechanism by which Wheezeworts function. Rather than reducing the heat energy in Joules of the gas they absorb and release, Wheezeworts decreased the temperature of that gas by a flat 5 C instead. This means the amount of heat deleted by the Wheezewort is variable, based on the Heat Capacity of the gas in question. Hydrogen has a dramatically higher Heat Capacity than other gases, meaning that Wheezeworts delete significantly more heat energy when they work in Hydrogen versus other gases. The same principle is true for Aquatuners and Thermo Regulators as well, but the difference there is that neither of these machines delete heat. Instead, they displace it into their vicinity. Which is why Thermo Regulators are also usually in a room filled with Hydrogen, surrounded by Wheezeworts. Aquatuners are trickier, because Liquid Pipes transfer larger quantities than Gas Pipes do, so you usually have to submerge them in a liquid to prevent overheating (usually Crude Oil or Petroleum -- their thermal properties are on the similar end of the liquid scale that Hydrogen is on for the gas scale). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89517-why-wheezeworts-in-hydrogen-room/#findComment-1023953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
travaldofan Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 isn't natural gas is better with wheezewort than hydrogen in long term? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89517-why-wheezeworts-in-hydrogen-room/#findComment-1023968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 hydrogen is .2 better for thermal capacity, since they fixed gas deletion. Before you would be correct in any mixed gas environment. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89517-why-wheezeworts-in-hydrogen-room/#findComment-1023973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 6 hours ago, travaldofan said: isn't natural gas is better with wheezewort than hydrogen in long term? Natural gas and hydrogen is pretty close in heat capacity (but hydrogen is a little better) so it's weezie take about the same amount of heat energy (hydrogen quite better), but hydrogen have a higher thermal conductivity so you can give it more quickly heat energy, so for the gas is the better gas to cool down or warm up something Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89517-why-wheezeworts-in-hydrogen-room/#findComment-1024034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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