Best temp shift mat to use for doorways?

[MythN7]

ive been using dirt as my temp shift mats for doorways out of industrial or kitchens, is there a better mat to help halt heat from getting threw?

[travaldofan]

ABYSSALYTIE?
 

[Neotuck]

Try placing the temp shift plates around the grill only.  It will help disapate the heat evenly.  Also a wheezewart planted next to your grill helps as well

[FullMetalArthur]

I have 2 cooks, 2 grills and use them at the same time. 1 Wheezewort in between and the grills are as blue as the sky on a clear day.

[PhailRaptor]

12 hours ago, travaldofan said:

ABYSSALYTIE?

Doesn't work.  Abyssalite doesn't interact with anything below like 500 C.  So building Tempshift Plates out of Abyssalite doesn't have any thermal impact, it just ties up your Abyssalite.

[Kasuha]

13 hours ago, MythN7 said:

ive been using dirt as my temp shift mats for doorways out of industrial or kitchens, is there a better mat to help halt heat from getting threw?

Vacuum. You can't build a tempshift plate out of it, but you can have it in your airlock to stop heat exchange.

Tempshift plates never stop heat exchange. They improve it. Best material for tempshift plates to lower heat exchange is to not use tempshift plates.

[MythN7]

15 hours ago, Kasuha said:

Vacuum. You can't build a tempshift plate out of it, but you can have it in your airlock to stop heat exchange.

Tempshift plates never stop heat exchange. They improve it. Best material for tempshift plates to lower heat exchange is to not use tempshift plates.

the description says to accelerate or buffer based on what element is used.

I would assume buffer means the opposite of accelerate in the way it was phrased.

Would be nice to have door of ANY type craft-able from minerals.

Because if your building transit tubes only 3 tiles long to go threw the abys wall. your prob going to be pushing the limit of plastic melting points, on top of the heat the launcher has.

[Kasuha]

33 minutes ago, MythN7 said:

the description says to accelerate or buffer based on what element is used.

The description is inaccurate. A tempshift plate always acts as a buffer, and always accelerates heat transfer.

The buffer property is only useful if you have some heat to store for later use. For instance, around a steam geyser where you cool them between eruptions and then use that stored "coldness" to condense steam.

When you put the tempshift plate on a heat gradient, e.g. between hot and cold zone, it will eventually reach equilibrium temperature and then the only remaining effect it will have will be increased heat transfer from the hot to the cold zone because it will be one more element for the heat to pass through. Tempshift plates are never insulators. Assuming you don't plan to rebuild them regularly, replacing hot plate with a new cold one.

[MythN7]

1 minute ago, Kasuha said:

The description is inaccurate. A tempshift plate always acts as a buffer, and always accelerates heat transfer.

The buffer property is only useful if you have some heat to store for later use. For instance, around a steam geyser where you cool them between eruptions and then use that stored "coldness" to condense steam.

When you put the tempshift plate on a heat gradient, e.g. between hot and cold zone, it will eventually reach equilibrium temperature and then the only remainin effect it will have will be increased heat transfer from the hot to the cold zone because it will be one more element for the heat to pass through. Tempshift plates are never insulators.

ok, so i think anyone can think of a case to use the highly conductive ones like diamond, gold, wolf or obsidian.

but is there an actual practical use for the ones that have crap conductive, like abys or dirt or ign rock, maybe coal?

I thought they acted kinda acted like the solid wall blocks in terms of blocking heat only with the catch they also let gas and fluid threw.

Thus the purpose of using insulator elements is what i bet 99% of the players think.

[Kabrute]

just to catch excess temps as mentioned here

10 minutes ago, Kasuha said:

Assuming you don't plan to rebuild them regularly, replacing hot plate with a new cold one.

 

5 minutes ago, MythN7 said:

but is there an actual practical use for the ones that have crap conductive

 

[Kasuha]

2 minutes ago, MythN7 said:

but is there an actual practical use for the ones that have crap conductive, like abys or dirt or ign rock, maybe coal?

I am using particularly dirt at my steam geyser to condense the steam. Conductivity is not an issue, and the heat capacity (and melting temperature, all right) is the important factor because it can buffer a lot of heat from the steam before it warms up - and then there's sufficient time to cool it down again between eruptions. That's how a buffer is used.

I'm not sure if there are reasonable uses for other materials but I guess when you need some buffer and don't care about its properties too much, you can build it from anything.

[MythN7]

3 minutes ago, Kasuha said:

I am using particularly dirt at my steam geyser to condense the steam. Conductivity is not an issue, and the heat capacity (and melting temperature, all right) is the important factor because it can buffer a lot of heat from the steam before it warms up - and then there's sufficient time to cool it down again between eruptions. That's how a buffer is used.

I'm not sure if there are reasonable uses for other materials but I guess when you need some buffer and don't care about its properties too much, you can build it from anything.

oh so if i am getting you right, the plate itself and the gas / fluid in the same square have independant temps, so a slow heating material would take longer to heat up not really doing much, but on the flip side its also taking long time to put that heat back to the gas / fluid when its temp drasticly flips direction.

8 minutes ago, Kabrute said:

just to catch excess temps as mentioned here

 

 

i went up and down this thread a dozen times now and I still don't see the rebuilding statement you quoted, so i must be blind or what?

[Kabrute]

 

Kas' last line in that post

[Kasuha]

4 minutes ago, MythN7 said:

oh so if i am getting you right, the plate itself and the gas / fluid in the same square have independant temps, so a slow heating material would take longer to heat up not really doing much, but on the flip side its also taking long time to put that heat back to the gas / fluid when its temp drasticly flips direction.

Yes, that's it.

[MythN7]

oh wow, i read that like 5 times to, I  think it was cause you dident quote the whole thing, so i was looking for a small statement in the history.

the other day I made this suggestion kinda about what were talking about.

Is this a good idea?

 

this is how im trying to cool the geyser,

trying to make the O2 and the water as cold as possible.

don't like using the 2 utility's that cool pipes cause they take so much power and then i gotta still cool down that area twice as much as what the geyser is causing lol.

more prob cause i don't really know how to use properly yet. since im still able to make algae and starting water last almost 400 cycles.

kinda got good at making my life support resources go along way.  Also never run more than 5 dups, 6 if i feel reckless lol.

 

But the reason for this question was more for in the extreme early cycles when you are needing cookers, some power, ect.. all in that tight spot, since i like to keep it small like that till I have exo suits and sweepers researched.