agu4004 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 4 of them just idle there and did nothing, even go dumping. what have I done wrong? Is it supposed to be like that, or else? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 To pass through the checkpoints, your dubs must be wearing exosuit. But your exosuit station is not ready. I arrange exosuit checkpoint and station in this way Outdoors, Checkpoint (arrow:←), Station, Base Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agu4004 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, R9MX4 said: To pass through the checkpoints, your dubs must be wearing exosuit. But your exosuit station is not ready. I arrange exosuit checkpoint and station in this way Outdoors, Checkpoint (arrow:←), Station, Base I assigned 3 seasoned miners to the suit after the suit is finished, and my engineer keeps idle there. IDK why. also. if they just waiting for suit, they could just go do something else, not just stand there and do absolute nothing? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, agu4004 said: I assigned 3 seasoned miners to the suit after the suit is finished, and my engineer keeps idle there. IDK why. No power, no gas pipe. The station needs power and oxygen Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agu4004 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, R9MX4 said: No power, no gas pipe. The station needs power and oxygen I did that after disable them and enable it again, still happen Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Just now, agu4004 said: I did that after disable them and enable it again, still happen Could you show me the new pic and upload your save file? The save file should in C:\Users\***\Documents\Klei\OxygenNotIncluded\save_files Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agu4004 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, R9MX4 said: Could you show me the new pic and upload your save file? The save file should in C:\Users\***\Documents\Klei\OxygenNotIncluded\save_files Suave Sewer Cycle 76.sav also, could you check out this ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I load your save, and Rowan is not idle anymore. So I can only make some guesses. Usually, a duplicate will be idle in two situation. 1. No work to do. 2. Unable to go to the working place. In the first pic, Stinky can't pass through the checkpoint, so he is idle because of the second reason. In the second pic, I guess it's the first reason. In addition, you use the checkpoints in a inefficiency way. One checkpoint can check every dup who wants to pass through the checkpoint. A dup will wear the exosuit when he passes through the station and the exosuit is ready. So one checkpoint is enough for more than one stations. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agu4004 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 minute ago, R9MX4 said: I load your save, and Rowan is not idle anymore. So I can only make some guesses. Usually, a duplicate will be idle in two situation. 1. No work to do. 2. Unable to go to the working place. In the first pic, Stinky can't pass through the checkpoint, so he is idle because of the second reason. In the second pic, I guess it's the first reason. In addition, you use the checkpoints in a inefficiency way. One checkpoint can check every dup who wants to pass through the checkpoint. A dup will wear the exosuit when he passes through the station and the exosuit is ready. So one checkpoint is enough for more than one stations. could you check the video? I got some on there too. also, is it normal to be freeze and crash when you try to open job table? ( with larger amount of dubs ) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, agu4004 said: could you check the video? I got some on there too. Exosuit station needs time to be fully charged. See the oxygen charge gauge, it's empty. It means the exosuit only has little oxygen. When the duplicate wear the exosuit, the suit runs out of oxygen at once, then the dup takes the exosuit off. But because dup has taken the exosuit off, he can't pass through the checkpoint. So the dup tries to wear the suit again. 13 minutes ago, agu4004 said: also, is it normal to be freeze and crash when you try to open job table? ( with larger amount of dubs ) I don't think it's normal. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agu4004 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, R9MX4 said: Exosuit station needs time to be fully charged. See the oxygen charge gauge, it's empty. It means the exosuit only has little oxygen. When the duplicate wear the exosuit, the suit runs out of oxygen at once, then the dup takes the exosuit off. But because dup has taken the exosuit off, he can't pass through the checkpoint. So the dup tries to wear the suit again. I don't think it's normal. what do you suggest to fix the problem? I see some youtuber freeze and crash when opening jobs menu too Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, agu4004 said: what do you suggest to fix the problem? Build more stations. So when a station is empty, the duplicate can choose another station. And wait. Wait until the station is fully charged. You can build station and checkpoint in this way Outdoors, Checkpoint (arrow:←), Station, Station, Station, Station, ... ,Station, Base Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agu4004 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 minute ago, R9MX4 said: Build more stations. So when a station is empty, the duplicate can choose another station. And wait. Wait until the station is fully charged. You can build station and checkpoint in this way Outdoors, Checkpoint (arrow:←), Station, Station, Station, Station, ... ,Station, Base so 1 checkpoint is enough? thanks dude Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 You only need 1 checkpoint, as long as it is connected to a dock it works fine I have 8 docks and 1 checkpoint haha Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KadimTaverna Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Guys how can I assign a duplicant to Metal Refinery job? Which job tab? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agu4004 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 48 minutes ago, R9MX4 said: Build more stations. So when a station is empty, the duplicate can choose another station. And wait. Wait until the station is fully charged. You can build station and checkpoint in this way Outdoors, Checkpoint (arrow:←), Station, Station, Station, Station, ... ,Station, Base how do you make dubs auto wear exo suit? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMFan79 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, BlueLance said: You only need 1 checkpoint, as long as it is connected to a dock it works fine I have 8 docks and 1 checkpoint haha This... Using more than 1 checkpoint is a waste of metal and could also create anomalies with dupes like the ones you're having. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Just now, agu4004 said: how do you make dubs auto wear exo suit? A dup will wear the exosuit when he passes through the station and the exosuit is ready. So just put the dock on the route of dups. In this arrangement 【Outdoors, Checkpoint (arrow:←), Dock, Dock, Dock, Dock, ... ,Dock, Base】 When dups want to go to outdoors ,they will pass through docks. If the exosuit is not ready, dups can't pass through checkpoint, they will go back to base. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agu4004 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, R9MX4 said: A dup will wear the exosuit when he passes through the station and the exosuit is ready. So just put the dock on the route of dups. In this arrangement 【Outdoors, Checkpoint (arrow:←), Dock, Dock, Dock, Dock, ... ,Dock, Base】 When dups want to go to outdoors ,they will pass through docks. If the exosuit is not ready, dups can't pass through checkpoint, they will go back to base. ohh got it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87799-why-they-keep-idle/#findComment-1006326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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