Vincie Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Well... Natural gas is mostly methane, that is actually lighter than oxygen and should go up, not down - that's why methane burners in old mines had those long sticks to burn methane. They had to reach it under the celling. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/82750-naturl-gas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Although it originally was called Methane and apparently was meant to be methane, both the 'heavier than air' and 'orange colored' properties go better with natural gas being butane for me. Also, we can always conclude that it's just another of the ONI's specific elements. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/82750-naturl-gas/#findComment-961730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincie Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 Same goes for CO2 - it actually has no colour. Methane as well could beo range, while those gases generally have no colours. And hydrogen definatelly is not pink. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/82750-naturl-gas/#findComment-961829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi01 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Hydrogen, oxygen and chlorine all use the molar mass of a single atom in the game even though they actually appear as molecules with two atoms in real life. For this reason, they all only weigh approximately half as much as they're supposed to in the game (I haven't checked this myself in the files because I don't know how to, but other people have and it makes perfect sense if you look at how they behave in the game. I'm not certain if the real life values below are exactly the ones used in the game, but I'm assuming they are). Oxygen has a molar mass of 15,9 in the game as opposed to the 31,9 that it's supposed to have which makes it lighter than natural gas, which has a molar mass of 16 (it's referred to as CH4 in the game so it's safe to assume that it has the molar mass of methane). Chlorine has a molar mass of 35,5 instead of 70,9 which makes it lighter than CO2 (44). Hydrogen is negligible because it just has a molar mass of 1 instead of 2. So in short, oxygen is currently lighter than natural gas and chlorine is currently lighter than carbon dioxide, both of which shouldn't be the case and is caused by the wrong molar masses of the former. I'm assuming it was a mistake that the devs made early on during development and while it's been in the game since the beginning, I'm hoping that it will be fixed one day. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/82750-naturl-gas/#findComment-961870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plum Gate Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Honestly, I think they should bury the molar masses and chemical formula descriptions and just go for completely imaginary pseudosubstances that retain only slight resemblances to real world substances. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/82750-naturl-gas/#findComment-962537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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