731397_1452793686 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Found a really nice map for the oil update. Unfortunately I also made a few more maps after it so the seed I currently have for generating new maps is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Upload the save and I'll get it. Not that you can enter it in the game since it uses 4 seeds instead of 1, for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaniel Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Risu said: Upload the save and I'll get it. Not that you can enter it in the game since it uses 4 seeds instead of 1, for some reason. So the "randomly" generated map still has seed number? But just that it's a different system from the world gen seed pool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Reaniel said: So the "randomly" generated map still has seed number? But just that it's a different system from the world gen seed pool? When you enter a seed in the GUI it sets all 4 seeds to the same number. Random maps use a random number for each seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
731397_1452793686 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 SWEDEN.sav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaniel Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, Risu said: When you enter a seed in the GUI it sets all 4 seeds to the same number. Random maps use a random number for each seed. Ahh, now I get it... And yeah, if that's the case, then it's a bit pointless for us to know the 4 numbers since we have no UI to input and generate a map from them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plum Gate Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 This knowledge hurts my brain. One wishes for a sideboard system, a saved group of dupes to select from on game creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 hours ago, 731397_1452793686 said: SWEDEN.sav Your world isn't randomly generated. The seed is 1312079588 for the Default world. (Yes chosen world is important) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reaniel Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 @RisuHate to bug you with little things like this... but I also need the gen seed for this save :/ Coughing Space Hut.sav It's just so frustrating to finally find a good seed only to realize that the custom game menu would reshuffle the gen seed every time instead of keeping the last used like what they had under the option menu. To make matter worse, the dev have now removed the whole thing that was under the option menu, meaning I need to write down each seed I started. Gah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Reaniel said: @RisuHate to bug you with little things like this... but I also need the gen seed for this save :/ Coughing Space Hut.sav It's just so frustrating to finally find a good seed only to realize that the custom game menu would reshuffle the gen seed every time instead of keeping the last used like what they had under the option menu. To make matter worse, the dev have now removed the whole thing that was under the option menu, meaning I need to write down each seed I started. Gah... 600488459 on Default world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 If you're wondering why the Default part is important, meet Helicona. And this is The Rock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaniel Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Well, at least people won't be complaining about the lack of ice biome... And thanks Risu for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habuky Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 @Risu, how do you get that map seed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 10 hours ago, habuky said: @Risu, how do you get that map seed? Get what seed? The saves have a reference inside about how they were generated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habuky Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 10 hours ago, Risu said: Get what seed? The saves have a reference inside about how they were generated. I opened one of my saves using an normal text editor, because I wanted to have a fresh restart of this randomly created map. I saw a few understandable things like the name of the colony but couldn't find the seed, the game used to create the map. Question: So did I just not look well enough (what would be the keyword to search for?) or am I using the wrong program or is the seed not saved in randomly generated maps or is only possible in the oil-upgrade? Randomly generated map means: I clicked on "new game" without giving a seed value or using the onion thingy using the outbreak-version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, habuky said: I opened one of my saves using an normal text editor, because I wanted to have a fresh restart of this randomly created map. I saw a few understandable things like the name of the colony but couldn't find the seed, the game used to create the map. Question: So did I just not look well enough (what would be the keyword to search for?) or am I using the wrong program or is the seed not saved in randomly generated maps or is only possible in the oil-upgrade? Randomly generated map means: I clicked on "new game" without giving a seed value or using the onion thingy using the outbreak-version. Need to decompress the save to get anything interesting out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habuky Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Risu said: Need to decompress the save to get anything interesting out of it. And would you be so kind to tell me how to decompress it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Just now, habuky said: And would you be so kind to tell me how to decompress it? Write a program to walk through the entire serialization template block to reach the start of the compressed data and then decompress the zlib stream to the end of the file from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habuky Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Ah, okay, this kind of "pice of cake"-approach I assume there is no a freeware out there, which could do that for me, right? I won't be able to do that myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Not aware of any save editors out there. Wouldn't be difficult in the slightest to make one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Slappy Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I found the seed number in the Steam Oxygennotincluded_data folder. in the output_log.txt file. just do a search for the worldgenseed. try mine 1157987568. 2 nearby steam geysers, 1 at about 10 o'clock 1 screen away and 1 straight down the same distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habuky Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 7 hours ago, Risu said: Write a program to walk through the entire serialization template block to reach the start of the compressed data and then decompress the zlib stream to the end of the file from there. There are several words that give me somehow a clue / direction, but honestly I do know what that is 7 hours ago, Risu said: Not aware of any save editors out there. Wouldn't be difficult in the slightest to make one. okay. Given my answer above, what should I google for in order to find a tutorial or something I can read on? @Captain_Slappy, I cannot confirm your method at least during mid-game. anyway nice find during world generation, I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Slappy Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I was at cycle 40 when i found the seed i was currently playing, so it looks like it is the current save seed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirkin Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 If you could tell me the seed to this map I would greatly appreciate it. The Doomed Rat's Nest.sav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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