RamVivat Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 hi! we have sweep we have deliver. two carrying function!!! I consider that two abilities on carrying bring only more confusion. I suggest to unite these abilities in one "carrying" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamApart Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Interesting idea, but not sure if it is good. They are different jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 sweep is clean up and store materials deliver is take materials and bring to buildings They are not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Sweeping is action you can tell the dupes to do by marking pieces of materials for sweeping. Delivery is part of construction, you don't issue separate delivery commands and separate build commands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Just now, Kasuha said: Sweeping is action you can tell the dupes to do by marking pieces of materials for sweeping. Delivery is part of construction, you don't issue separate delivery commands and separate build commands. deliver is also when they bring materials to buildings like for making food or oxygen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Just now, AlexRou said: deliver is also when they bring materials to buildings like for making food or oxygen. Ah, you're right. And you don't issue commands for that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamVivat Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 hour ago, AlexRou said: sweep is clean up and store materials deliver is take materials and bring to buildings They are not the same. khe-khe... direction is the only subject to change. main is - take more and bear farer. we may transfer from one storage to another. and what ability for that use? yes we cannot transfer nothing to floor in the next door. (we can't feed hatches this way, but we maybe may this) - simply can't. Jesus... this situation it's like Intel's assembler mnemonics - one mnemonics for MOVE register-memory another mnemo for register-register. in DEC PDP(LSI)-11(and other) we have only MOV. memory-register MOV register-register MOV dump into PORT MOV well its awful. and in one and in another cases we use take\drop and go. want ad absurdum? division of one ability into two depending on the direction is how to have two driver's licenses - one is used only to leave the house for work and another only to reach to the house. absurdity whether you find? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, RamVivat said: khe-khe... direction is the only subject to change. main is - take more and bear farer. we may transfer from one storage to another. and what ability for that use? yes we cannot transfer nothing to floor in the next door. (we can feed hatches this way) - simply can't. Jesus... this situation it's like Intel's assembler mnemonics - one mnemonics for MOVE register-memory another mnemo for register-register. in DEC PDP(LSI)-11(and other) we have only MOV. memory-register MOV register-register MOV dump into PORT MOV well its awful. and in one and in another cases we use take\drop and go. want ad absurdum? division of one ability into two depending on the direction is how to have two driver's licenses - one is used only to leave the house for work and another only to reach to the house. absurdity whether you find? Think of it this way, bringing materials to places to be used is important, but bringing materials to storage is not. If they are the same job, you cannot tell builders to deliver materials but ignore the junk you want to store. So they will end up bringing materials to a construction site and on the way they decide to pick up some sandstone and bring it to the storage at the other end of the map. The less unrelated jobs you tell your dupes to do the faster they get those jobs done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamVivat Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Kasuha said: Sweeping is action you can tell the dupes to do by marking pieces of materials for sweeping. Delivery is part of construction, you don't issue separate delivery commands and separate build commands. everything has mixed up in Oblonsky' house 9 minutes ago, AlexRou said: Think of it this way, bringing materials to places to be used is important, but bringing materials to storage is not. If they are the same job, you cannot tell builders to deliver materials but ignore the junk you want to store. So they will end up bringing materials to a construction site and on the way they decide to pick up some sandstone and bring it to the storage at the other end of the map. The less unrelated jobs you tell your dupes to do the faster they get those jobs done. in some sense you are right. if not one "but", namely: the builder doesn't have need to be a porter. there are porters, that is the colonists allocated for carrying. worse than that - the builder also shouldn't carry anything - he is obliged to build and only to build. that hands at the builder didn't shiver after the next brought cement bag, and the porter shouldn't build, it is worse than that - has no right to build because if the porter builds and it will fall off - will ask from the builder. well it I from real life have given a few example. or there can be an author of a game worked at building by the porter-general worker where there were also builders who know only still poor general workers to them sit and smoke all will bring. and "has leaped zealous" at the author of a game, and he has arranged to builders "paradise life" - has forced them to carry materials. and porters wish idle to take a walk now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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