The Marble Nerf. Am i the only one who hates grinding for something nice ?

[GLERMZ]

2 hours ago, Lumina said:

So why people that want to use marble armor but don't want it to be to easy to obtain should be wrong ? Should "not use it" ? Should be less important than your desire for decoration ?

Because decoration isn't related to survival ? It doesn't mean that it should be more important or an higher priority in any way. Decoration isn't a better purpose that should be allowed to the detriment of normal game balance. People wanting more decoration should care about how it affect people playing the game with survival in mind. Not just saying "don't use it".

 

You always go into the same perspective.

You think that something you didn't use, that now you can use more, that you have the option to NOT use it if you feel game gets easy with it compares to the fact of something that they introduced, that made decor with it easy and now it's not without us having the Option of having it easy again.

I know it's complicated to follow but bottom line is, I can't have my easy marble for decor without changing the game settings while you have the option of simply not using the marble suit because you think it's easier to kill with it. I feel its also easy to kill with Shadow Armor, and with tam and the shroom farm now, the sanity drain wouldn't be a problem at all, but i simple don't use it. Also "So why people that want to use marble armor but don't want it to be to easy to obtain should be wrong ? Should "not use it" ?" Simple, ask only for a nerf on Marble Suit not Marble/Marble Trees in general

I feel you also miss the point that some people are trying to make (that you are free to disagree) that there are many ways that they can make the game harder without nerfing the sandbox part of the game. That's the main issue here.

Also my overall opinion remains, the game is already HARD, specially to the new players. We shouldn't make it harder for everyone just because few people who excel in the game think it should. You have options to make it harder and that's how games work. If you want it easier you change settings, if you want harder you change it as-well. In this issue, and again in my Opinion, the game is balanced as it is. And if they want to nerf Marble Suit, boost their cost, do not nerf the rest.

Best Regards,

Glhrmzz

ps. Let's say Marble suite made the game easier, for noobs and players who can't kite and rather tank and with that more people stick with game and don't stop playing out of frustration. Than bring more of those buff's, because all i want is more people playing so we can keep getting more and more content

[Lumina]

Please, i disagree with some arguments that i find bad, it doesn't mean that i don't understand things, that it's complicated or that i miss the point.

I perfectly understand the point, i already made suggestion that are in your favour (but are for me more balanced and able to be balanced in the future that the one you want).

 

 

Also, sanding box part wasn't nerfed. We are in a beta. Marble tree were too powerful, they were tuned, because it's why beta are done. Marble isn't the only part of the sandbox game (there are potted fern, flowers, wooden flooring, gates, walls, some chess piece that don't require marble, trinket, some building like moondial and a lot that i can't imagine), so saying that the sanding box is nerfed is not true. One part require more time than before.

It's not a nerf, because it's a beta. You can't take the first version of something in a beta like the reference and compare any change to it. It's why we have beta, so things could change. So of course you can tell "first version was better for me", but don't call it a nerf.

 

Also, no one here request that the game should be harder. Keeping marble as now is making game easier, not harder, because game was harder when you can't grow marble shrub.

[GLERMZ]

7 minutes ago, Lumina said:

Also, sanding box part wasn't nerfed. We are in a beta. Marble tree were too powerful, they were tuned, because it's why beta are done. Marble isn't the only part of the sandbox game (there are potted fern, flowers, wooden flooring, gates, walls, some chess piece that don't require marble, trinket, some building like moondial and a lot that i can't imagine), so saying that the sanding box is nerfed is not true. One part require more time than before.

 

If you understand the point why are you discussing all the other sandbox items, when here we just discussing Marble ? Marble Sandobx play was nerfed instead of nerfing the Difficulty Balance of Marble Suit.
 

Also, no one here request that the game should be harder. Keeping marble as now is making game easier, not harder, because game was harder when you can't grow marble shrub. 

I still don't see it. Clearly we have different perceptions and there is no point on debating it more I will stick with my opinion you with yours.

Best Regards,

Glhrmzz

[HonorableFool]

The marble nerf was fine. It was way too easy to mass produce marble before.

However they need to change the durability for the trees i go through 5 gold picks for 30 marble. Thats 2 suits with 6scrap at a cost of 20 sticks and 10 gold little too costly in my opinion,dont even talk about flint picks its a joke you cant even mine 3 whole grown trees. Even with a massive twig farm and gold stockpile its not worth.  

log armor is alot easier and cheaper. Id suggest staying away from marble unless absolutely needed.

[Lumina]

8 minutes ago, HonorableFool said:

 

However they need to change the durability for the trees

I agree that they could be mined a little more quickly.